Where would you rank Donald Trump amongst the greatest or worst US Presidents ever?

[Truth Detector]

I am not attacking my fellow service members, we did what we were told to do.

You most certainly are when you say that we should never have been there dumbass.

We won the war with Iraq like the Patriots rolling over the Bill. We should have never been there though, the world is filled with despots and dictators and we do noting about 95% of them. Your savior in the White House is turning a blind eye to one of them killing a journalist.

Why shouldn't we have been there snowflake? The man was defying resolutions for a decade. What would be the purpose of having a UN if you are going to let despots ignore the promises they make. I doubt you even comprehend the REAL reason we were there being a low information asshat.

You sound as dim witted as the liberal morons that infest this forum snowflake. I am thinking you aren't an Ex Marine, but a security guard at the mall.

I am though embarrassed for you that you just compared WWII to the Iraq war.

I didn't compare the Iraq War with WWII you dumb fuck. I was comparing the casualties inflicted in a single day with those that took ten years. Yet leftist morons, like you, wrong their hands about it as if wars do not warrant sacrifice.

The Military is not a job corps. Nor is the peace corps. If people join it thinking they will never have to make the ultimate sacrifice and believe what their country stands for, they should consider another job career.

But I it is good that you did, now I know that I am dealing with someone with the IQ of a head of cabbage.

Ironic coming from a moron with the reading comprehension of a third grader. Perhaps you need to extract your head from that arrogant asshole of yours before you try to pretend you know what you are emoting about snowflake?

 

[Truth Detector]

Historians are swayed by their political leanings, not by facts.

Correct.

Obama was just a bad POTUS.

Agreed.

He had promise, but lacked the skill to put it to use.

Wrong; he had no promise in that he was extremely inexperienced as he once admitted and never ran anything more than a community organizer office.

Add in that he ramped up the wars in the Middle East instead of bringing all our troops home like he should have.

Wrong; he moronically pulled the troops out which allowed ISIS to take over almost the entire country and parts of Syria.

I do not blame him for ISIS, as it started under Bush and was the logical outcome to Saddam being removed.

Wrong; Bush had nothing to do with ISIS. That was the result of the inexperienced Obama trying to satisfy morons like you who demanded we bring the troops home against the best advice fo not doing so.

ISIS had NOTHING to do with removing Saddam. It had EVERYTHING to do with Obama trying to satisfy the morons of his constituency and like you to bring the troops home before a peace was completely secured.

I do blame him for ignoring the problem till it got as big as it did.

You moron; you're the one saying he should have brought the troops home. That defines ignoring the problem you dumbass.

He had a true chance to help race relations, but instated always took the side of the black man even if they were in the wrong.

Agreed.

There is not a single tangible thing that anyone can point to and say "that is a good thing from Obama".

Agreed.

 

[Truth Detector]

As opposed to posturing jackasses on message boards trying to reinvent themselves....

You really need to buy a mirror jackass. Seriously.

 

[Truth Detector]

Keep trying little doggie! LOL!

Keep whining little vagina.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Historians are swayed by their political leanings, not by facts.

Obama was just a bad POTUS.

He had promise, but lacked the skill to put it to use. The ACA was a shell of what he wanted due to the "bluedog Dems" and he wasted all of his political capital betting that shitty law passed, he was basically done after that. The ACA alone is a big enough POS to qualify him for the bottom of the POTUS ladder.

Add in that he ramped up the wars in the Middle East instead of bringing all our troops home like he should have. I do not blame him for ISIS, as it started under Bush and was the logical outcome to Saddam being removed. I do blame him for ignoring the problem till it got as big as it did.

He had a true chance to help race relations, but instated always took the side of the black man even if they were in the wrong.

There is not a single tangible thing that anyone can point to and say "that is a good thing from Obama".

You may not be a sock (no way I can tell)...

...but you definitely are full of shit.

You are far from mid-line.

Good luck peddling that shit...but my guess is you are gonna strike out.

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

Who said Donald Trump never earned something all of his own doing?

After most all of his life- he has finally earned something all of his own doing without anyone's help!

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

OK! Who all is still tired of winning around here? BLAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Truth Detector]

So it wasn't Obama that ruined the ACA, it was the Blue Dogs. So how is that reflective of Obama being a bad POTUS. Also, what happened to all those blue dogs who worked so hard against the ACA?
Oh, right, they all lost their elections while Obama cruised to a second term.

Why was the ACA a POS? It extended coverage to 24,000,000 people, and there isn't one single legitimate victim of the law.

NOT.

ONE.

So why was the ACA a "POS" according to you? You can't say because all you're doing here is posturing a new identity and you're using superficial talking points to do it.

Weak sauce, bruh.

Willful idiot thinks ACA was a great thing.

 

[Truth Detector]

Who said Donald Trump never earned something all of his own doing?

After most all of his life- he has finally earned something all of his own doing without anyone's help!

Saved for the day you will be eating a LOT of crow snowflake.

Some of my favorites so far:

The Democrats will soon take back both houses- and show the Republicans how it's really done! LOL!

No! He won't get approved!

 

[TTQ64]

Bullshit.

You're gonna slip eventually, and when you do you'll ditch this account and create a brand new one that tries a different set of tactics.

Ho-hum.
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You can tell they are lying when they say they didn't vote for either party.

A true racist right winger would NEVER admit to voting for anyone on the left. It's why they play the role.

They only fool the foolish.

 

[Truth Detector]

OK! Who all is still tired of winning around here? BLAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Truth Detector]

You can tell they are lying when they say they didn't vote for either party.

A true racist right winger would NEVER admit to voting for anyone on the left. It's why they play the role.

They only fool the foolish.

 

[TTQ64]

Historians are swayed by their political leanings, not by facts.

Obama was just a bad POTUS.

He had promise, but lacked the skill to put it to use. The ACA was a shell of what he wanted due to the "bluedog Dems" and he wasted all of his political capital betting that shitty law passed, he was basically done after that. The ACA alone is a big enough POS to qualify him for the bottom of the POTUS ladder.

Add in that he ramped up the wars in the Middle East instead of bringing all our troops home like he should have. I do not blame him for ISIS, as it started under Bush and was the logical outcome to Saddam being removed. I do blame him for ignoring the problem till it got as big as it did.

He had a true chance to help race relations, but instated always took the side of the black man even if they were in the wrong.

There is not a single tangible thing that anyone can point to and say "that is a good thing from Obama".

There's the other tall tail sign...…….he's a right winger all right.

 

[Gunny2009]

How's that the case when you're trying to convince everyone here you're some kind of "above it all" moderate who can see "both sides"? That's not the type of person who gets banned from boards, is it?

Seriously, does this act work for you? Cause it's not very convincing.

I never said I was a moderate, I am just not a Repub or Dem. Moderates do not have strong views, I have very strong views...they just do not align with either party.

 

[Gunny2009]

Ummm...it was under Obama that we withdrew our forces from Iraq and scaled back our presence in Afghanistan.

While true that he wages a drone campaign that was fucking awful, that in and of itself doesn't make him a bad POTUS.

So once again, we have you using very superficial talking points that barely scratch the surface, and of which you provide no detail.

So how are you not just posturing on the message board to set yourself up as some credible moderate who should be accommodated?

Maybe staple a teabag to your face and scream about debt? That's what you did before to gain relevance. Maybe it'll work again? Probably not. There's only so much polish you can put on a turd...

Scaled back in Afghanistan? really? After he almost tripped the number there. you really are a clueless.

 

[Gunny2009]

You may not be a sock (no way I can tell)...

...but you definitely are full of shit.

You are far from mid-line.

Good luck peddling that shit...but my guess is you are gonna strike out.

As I said, I am what I am. I doubt many people will accept it, most people cannot think outside of the two party spectrum, to them everything is "lib vs Con" or "left vs right".

I do not blame them too much, it is the way they have been raised, it is what the government wants...a divided populous is easier to control.

That is the reason why the sheep from both sides are fighting over what I am...both of them want to label me part of the other side.

It is funny as hell to watch. normally it does not happen in the same thread...this is great!

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

LOL!

 

[Ross Dolan]

As I said, I am what I am. I doubt many people will accept it, most people cannot think outside of the two party spectrum, to them everything is "lib vs Con" or "left vs right".

I do not blame them too much, it is the way they have been raised, it is what the government wants...a divided populous is easier to control.

That is the reason why the sheep from both sides are fighting over what I am...both of them want to label me part of the other side.

It is funny as hell to watch. normally it does not happen in the same thread...this is great!

I'm 82 years old, Gunny. I am a capital "I" Independent...with allegiance to neither major political party...although I am an advocate for a progressive agenda.

I am not even going to pretend I am not disposed to "align" with neither party. The Democrats definitely are closer to what I suppose advances the agenda I favor.

I think you are full of shit because of your words.

YOU are disposed, if not to favor the Republican line...certainly to reject with fewer qualifications the Democratic line.

You may occasionally vote for an Independent...particularly if you live in a state that is predominantly red or blue...but my guess is you more often vote Republican. If you live in a purple state...my guess is you vote almost exclusively Republican.

 

[Gunny2009]

I'm 82 years old, Gunny. I am a capital "I" Independent...with allegiance to neither major political party...although I am an advocate for a progressive agenda.

I am not even going to pretend I am not disposed to "align" with neither party. The Democrats definitely are closer to what I suppose advances the agenda I favor.

I think you are full of shit because of your words.

YOU are disposed, if not to favor the Republican line...certainly to reject with fewer qualifications the Democratic line.

You may occasionally vote for an Independent...particularly if you live in a state that is predominantly red or blue...but my guess is you more often vote Republican. If you live in a purple state...my guess is you vote almost exclusively Republican.

Here is my POTUS voting record for my adult life...

Johnson - 2016
Johnson - 2012
Barr - 2008
Badnarik - 2004
Browne - 2000
Perot. - 1996
Clinton - 1992
Bush I - 1988
Reagan - 1984

I am a small government, more personal freedom person. A live and let live motto.

I am vehemently against deficit spending unless there is an emergency. This past FY we added 1.27 trillion to the national debt in the middle of a "booming economy"...that is totally unacceptable.

I am also against any laws designed to keep us safe from ourselves....seat belt laws, helmet laws, smoking bans and the like. I think that prostitution should be legal, if someone can get paid to have sex in front of a camera...then they should be able to without one.

I am think that pot should be as legal as beer.

I think that churches should not be tax exempt and I think that the government should not be in the marriage business.

And a lot of other things that do not fit in either party..

 

[Ross Dolan]

Here is my POTUS voting record for my adult life...

Johnson - 2016
Johnson - 2012
Barr - 2008
Badnarik - 2004
Browne - 2000
Perot. - 1996
Clinton - 1992
Bush I - 1988
Reagan - 1984

I am a small government, more personal freedom person. A live and let live motto.

I am vehemently against deficit spending unless there is an emergency. This past FY we added 1.27 trillion to the national debt in the middle of a "booming economy"...that is totally unacceptable.

I am also against any laws designed to keep us safe from ourselves....seat belt laws, helmet laws, smoking bans and the like. I think that prostitution should be legal, if someone can get paid to have sex in front of a camera...then they should be able to without one.

I am think that pot should be as legal as beer.

I think that churches should not be tax exempt and I think that the government should not be in the marriage business.

And a lot of other things that do not fit in either party..

I stand by what I said earlier...that your words sound as though you either are disposed to the Republican Party agenda...or you are more likely to reject aspects of the Democratic Party agenda than that of the Republican Party agenda.

I'll listen to what you have to say as open-mindedly as I can manage, although some of the libertarian aspects of what you say your personal philosophy is...make me want to puke.