Where would you rank Donald Trump amongst the greatest or worst US Presidents ever?

[Gunny2009]

Apparently you failed 4th grade shit-for-brains making the idiot statement that a 4,900 point gain in 22 months isn't great. I guess the lowest unemployment in four decades isn't great either. While your bloviating like a moron, I guess increased high wage jobs aint so great and keeping more of what you earn was a loss too.

Instead, you really should STFU; you don't need to remove all doubt what a moron you are.

It is not great, no matter how much you rant and rave. It is a rise of 25%, that is not great, it was great for a year. The 0% rise for this year is shitty.

Unemployment has been dropping since 2010, and yes that is a good thing, but had nothing to do with Trump, nor Obama either.

I like getting more of my money but it was not worth the cost. Your savior added 1.27 trillion dollars to the national debt in FY18...that is not great either.

 

[LV426]

My position is an easy one to identify. I am in neither the Dem sheep pen that you live in nor the GOP sheep pen that TD resides in. That is why both you far left sheep and the far right sheep are attacking me in the same thread, I do not belong to either of your silly groups.

Psst - your lifeboat is ablaze.

Yes, you see...it's important for you to posture that you're some kind of thoughtful moderate because that way, you think it lends credibility to the shit arguments you're trying to make. Arguments that, despite your posturing, eventually belie the Conservative intent behind it.

Like how "No Labels" was just a way to rebrand shitty Conservative ideas poisoned by Trumpism.

You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.

 

[LV426]

I did not vote for either Trump nor Hillary nor have I voted for one of the two major party candidates for POUTS since 1992.

I don't believe that.

I think what will happen is you will find yourself being called out as you desperately try to carve out a new place for yourself after running aground with your old moniker here.

 

[Truth Detector]

The truth deflector has truly pooped his pants over this Investigation!

That's pretty obvious now!

I wonder if he is still tired of winning yet? BLAHAHAHAHA!

The only one needing depends are brain dead fools like you snowflake. NONE, I repeat, NONE of your laughably stupid predictions have ever come true as it relates to Trump.

I have to wonder if you will ever get tired of looking like a moron; the answer is fairly obvious given your propensity to remove any doubt you're a moron.

 

[LV426]

"Gunny2009" is a lifeboat.

Set that shit ablaze.

 

[LV426]

It's funny how all of a sudden there are all these "moderate" "both siders" whose profiles happened to be created right after Conservatives took a fucking shellacking in the last election.

 

[LV426]

Yeah, funny how their posts are also exactly what you'd expect out of someone trying to leave an old identity behind to reinvent themselves.

Yes...funny that.

What's next, are they going to call themselves "teabags" or "No Labels" or "Classical Liberals"?

 

[Gunny2009]

So you're one of those dumbfucks who think that despots and dictators should be free to wield their might against any and all allies. Dumb you are.

We lost 10,000 in one day on a beach in Omaha snowflake. That pales to losing 4,000 over a ten year period. Fascinating that some ex-military dunces think the sacrifices their fellow soldiers made should be impugned and mocked by asinine leftist narratives.

I am not attacking my fellow service members, we did what we were told to do. We won the war with Iraq like the Patriots rolling over the Bill. We should have never been there though, the world is filled with despots and dictators and we do noting about 95% of them. Your savior in the White House is turning a blind eye to one of them killing a journalist.

I am though embarrassed for you that you just compared WWII to the Iraq war. But I it is good that you did, now I know that I am dealing with someone with the IQ of a head of cabbage.

 

[Gunny2009]

I don't believe that.

I think what will happen is you will find yourself being called out as you desperately try to carve out a new place for yourself after running aground with your old moniker here.

You are free to believe whatever you like, I have no control over your delusions.

To quote the great sailor...I yam what i yam".

Never been to this forum, only here because I got a 10 day ban from another one for being a bit too rough in one of my responses.

I may or may not stick around.

 

[LV426]

You are free to believe whatever you like, I have no control over your delusions.

To quote the great sailor...I yam what i yam".

Never been to this forum, only here because I got a 10 day ban from another one for being a bit too rough in one of my responses.

I may or may not stick around.

How's that the case when you're trying to convince everyone here you're some kind of "above it all" moderate who can see "both sides"? That's not the type of person who gets banned from boards, is it?

Seriously, does this act work for you? Cause it's not very convincing.

 

[LV426]

It's always interesting how, after Conservatives are pummeled in an election, all these heretofore "moderates" who were nowhere to be found, seem to have emerged from the woodwork for no apparent reason to posture on message boards with concern trolling, while incorporating the very superficial talking points expressed by right and left in the months prior.

 

[Gunny2009]

Why do you think Obama was the worst when Presidential historians put him among the top 10?

Historians are swayed by their political leanings, not by facts.

Obama was just a bad POTUS.

He had promise, but lacked the skill to put it to use. The ACA was a shell of what he wanted due to the "bluedog Dems" and he wasted all of his political capital betting that shitty law passed, he was basically done after that. The ACA alone is a big enough POS to qualify him for the bottom of the POTUS ladder.

Add in that he ramped up the wars in the Middle East instead of bringing all our troops home like he should have. I do not blame him for ISIS, as it started under Bush and was the logical outcome to Saddam being removed. I do blame him for ignoring the problem till it got as big as it did.

He had a true chance to help race relations, but instated always took the side of the black man even if they were in the wrong.

There is not a single tangible thing that anyone can point to and say "that is a good thing from Obama".

 

[Gunny2009]

It's always interesting how, after Conservatives are pummeled in an election, all these heretofore "moderates" who were nowhere to be found, seem to have emerged from the woodwork for no apparent reason to posture on message boards with concern trolling, while incorporating the very superficial talking points expressed by right and left in the months prior.

Do you think that making your words bigger makes them more true? you are just acting like a petulant child now.

 

[LV426]

Do you think that making your words bigger makes them more true? you are just acting like a petulant child now.

What big words?

To quote one of my OP's that you probably responded to under a different ID; I'm just not feeling the sincerity.

 

[LV426]

Historians are swayed by their political leanings, not by facts.

As opposed to posturing jackasses on message boards trying to reinvent themselves....

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

The only one needing depends are brain dead fools like you snowflake. NONE, I repeat, NONE of your laughably stupid predictions have ever come true as it relates to Trump.

I have to wonder if you will ever get tired of looking like a moron; the answer is fairly obvious given your propensity to remove any doubt you're a moron.

Keep trying little doggie! LOL!

 

[LV426]

Obama was just a bad POTUS.

How?

He had promise, but lacked the skill to put it to use.

How so?

Before, when I said you were using very superficial talking points...THIS IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.

The ACA was a shell of what he wanted due to the "bluedog Dems" and he wasted all of his political capital betting that shitty law passed, he was basically done after that. The ACA alone is a big enough POS to qualify him for the bottom of the POTUS ladder.

So it wasn't Obama that ruined the ACA, it was the Blue Dogs. So how is that reflective of Obama being a bad POTUS. Also, what happened to all those blue dogs who worked so hard against the ACA?
Oh, right, they all lost their elections while Obama cruised to a second term.

Why was the ACA a POS? It extended coverage to 24,000,000 people, and there isn't one single legitimate victim of the law.

NOT.

ONE.

So why was the ACA a "POS" according to you? You can't say because all you're doing here is posturing a new identity and you're using superficial talking points to do it.

Weak sauce, bruh.

 

[LV426]

Add in that he ramped up the wars in the Middle East instead of bringing all our troops home like he should have.

Ummm...it was under Obama that we withdrew our forces from Iraq and scaled back our presence in Afghanistan.

While true that he wages a drone campaign that was fucking awful, that in and of itself doesn't make him a bad POTUS.

So once again, we have you using very superficial talking points that barely scratch the surface, and of which you provide no detail.

So how are you not just posturing on the message board to set yourself up as some credible moderate who should be accommodated?

Maybe staple a teabag to your face and scream about debt? That's what you did before to gain relevance. Maybe it'll work again? Probably not. There's only so much polish you can put on a turd...

 

[LV426]

I do not blame him for ISIS, as it started under Bush and was the logical outcome to Saddam being removed. I do blame him for ignoring the problem till it got as big as it did.

How did he "ignore the problem"?

Again with the superficial talking points.

Obama didn't ignore ISIS. In fact, Obama waged a campaign against ISIS that was effective at driving them out of Iraq.

He had a true chance to help race relations, but instated always took the side of the black man even if they were in the wrong

What black man was wrong whose side Obama took?

Again, more superficial nonsense that goes unsupported.

You're just posturing here, aren't you? It's OK to admit it.

There is not a single tangible thing that anyone can point to and say "that is a good thing from Obama"

Recovering the economy from the Bush economic collapsed caused by the policies you supported and voted for.

Covering 24,000,000 people through the ACA

Creating net 11,000,000 jobs.

Killing Osama bin Laden.

Reducing the deficit by 2/3 from where you clowns left it.

Nominating and confirming 2 women to the Supreme Court

DACA

Creating hundreds of thousands of green jobs thanks to the stimulus.

Yeah...what a record, right?

 

[Truth Detector]

It is not great, no matter how much you rant and rave. It is a rise of 25%, that is not great, it was great for a year. The 0% rise for this year is shitty.

Unemployment has been dropping since 2010, and yes that is a good thing, but had nothing to do with Trump, nor Obama either.

I like getting more of my money but it was not worth the cost. Your savior added 1.27 trillion dollars to the national debt in FY18...that is not great either.

My savior? 12.5% a year isn't great? Trump has nothing to do with it? STFU you moron. I have to laugh that you think you're any different than the leftist loons that infest this forum with the same stupidity.