Where would you rank Donald Trump amongst the greatest or worst US Presidents ever?

Totally disagree. Clinton got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, and her total vote count was surpassed only by Obama in 2008 and 2012....and the margin between 2012 and 2016 was statistically insignificant.

That is as pathetic as a baseball team that lost bragging about getting more hits.


She most definitely did not quit campaigning. Spending more time in those states wasn't going to counteract the Russian interference efforts on social media. It's silly to imagine her physical presence in those states would have counteracted the Russian narratives specifically targeting those states.

She did quit campaigning, she and most of us thought she had it in the bag.

Actually, Trump has proven having a physical presence can make a difference.

Less than 1% between 3 states was the difference in the election.
 
That is as pathetic as a baseball team that lost bragging about getting more hits.

The point is that your assertion that her campaign was poorly run is wrong. It's you searching for a way to blame Clinton for Russia's efforts to help Trump get elected.

If Russia wasn't working on Trump's behalf with the GOP's support, Trump would have lost.
 
She did quit campaigning, she and most of us thought she had it in the bag

She didn't quit campaigning. In fact, she ramped up campaign appearances beginning in October of 2016.

You're trying to create a false narrative so you don't have to admit that it was solely Russia working in conjunction with Trump and the GOP to disseminate propaganda that influenced weak-minded Conservatives.


Actually, Trump has proven having a physical presence can make a difference.

No he didn't. In fact, his physical presence hurt Conservatives this past election.


Less than 1% between 3 states was the difference in the election.

Which you have no way of correlating to physical appearance, but which we can correlate to propaganda efforts from Russia on behalf of Trump that specifically targeted voters in those states on social media.

Might be time for you to delete this account of yours and create a new one to re-position yourself on the boards.

Who are you, really? What's the ID you ditched to create this new one, and why did you ditch your old ID?
 
As I stated, his first year things were good, but his first year he just golfed a lot and held pep rallies, he did not do anything stupid like starting a trade war.

The DJI is up about 25% since Trump took office, at this same point under Obama it was up 38%.

So yeah, 4900 points in 22 months is not really all that good.

Only willful idiots and morons think 4,900 points in 22 months is not good. A bigger moron thinks one should give Obama credit for getting us back to where we were before he was elected.
 
It is not great, but all of my post were about this year, not the previous one.

You all seem to have some serious reading compression issues.

Did you make it past the 4th grade?

Apparently you failed 4th grade shit-for-brains making the idiot statement that a 4,900 point gain in 22 months isn't great. I guess the lowest unemployment in four decades isn't great either. While your bloviating like a moron, I guess increased high wage jobs aint so great and keeping more of what you earn was a loss too.

Instead, you really should STFU; you don't need to remove all doubt what a moron you are.
 
I think Trump is a better POTUS than Obama and in your little sheep mind I am still a Prog because I will not swallow after I blow him like you do.

You partisan sheep are so damn boring...the same on every forum.

You lack the basic intelligence to understand that a few of us are not do not fall under either party.

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From a Canadian POV, Obams is being seriously considered to be one of the best. That is because he did a huge amount of good toward eliminating racism in the US

No one gives a shit what brain dead Socialist dumbfucks from Kanukistan think snowflake.

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I'd say calling Nazis "very fine people" is just as bad as illegal invasions and occupations of sovereign nations.

I'd say taking Russia's side in targeted poisonings, taking Saudi Arabia's side in murdering journalists, and taking North Korea's side on sanction relief is just as bad, if not worse, than the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

I'd say not accepting what the US Intelligence Agencies tell him is pretty fucking horrible.

I never questioned Bush the Dumber's loyalty to this country; however, I do question Trump's.

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Those things are all bad, but none of the compare to more than 4000 dead and 30,000 wounded US service members.

So you're one of those dumbfucks who think that despots and dictators should be free to wield their might against any and all allies. Dumb you are. :laugh:

We lost 10,000 in one day on a beach in Omaha snowflake. That pales to losing 4,000 over a ten year period. Fascinating that some ex-military dunces think the sacrifices their fellow soldiers made should be impugned and mocked by asinine leftist narratives.

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Come on...of course he did. That's why you cheat...to win. You don't cheat to lose.
Totally disagree. Clinton got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, and her total vote count was surpassed only by Obama in 2008 and 2012....and the margin between 2012 and 2016 was statistically insignificant.

She most definitely did not quit campaigning. Spending more time in those states wasn't going to counteract the Russian interference efforts on social media. It's silly to imagine her physical presence in those states would have counteracted the Russian narratives specifically targeting those states.

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The point is that your assertion that her campaign was poorly run is wrong. It's you searching for a way to blame Clinton for Russia's efforts to help Trump get elected.

If Russia wasn't working on Trump's behalf with the GOP's support, Trump would have lost.

:lolup:Another brain dead, lying liberal loony tune who thinks the Russians got Trump elected....under Obama's watch nonetheless! :laugh:

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The truth deflector has truly pooped his pants over this Investigation!

That's pretty obvious now!

I wonder if he is still tired of winning yet? BLAHAHAHAHA!
 
Might be time for you to delete this account of yours and create a new one to re-position yourself on the boards.

Who are you, really? What's the ID you ditched to create this new one, and why did you ditch your old ID?

I have never been on this board before. My position is an easy one to identify. I am in neither the Dem sheep pen that you live in nor the GOP sheep pen that TD resides in. That is why both you far left sheep and the far right sheep are attacking me in the same thread, I do not belong to either of your silly groups.

I did not vote for either Trump nor Hillary nor have I voted for one of the two major party candidates for POUTS since 1992.
 
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