Who Is Trump Indebted TO????

[Yakuda]

He literally removed sanctions on Russians that Obama put in place for their attacks on this country in 2016.

Thats not proof of anything. When Romney says Russia was a threat in a debate with odumbo, odumbo said the 80's wanted their foreign policy back. You need help.

 

[LV426]

Thats not proof of anything.

Removing sanctions on Russians who just helped you win an election isn't proof?

Then why did he remove the sanctions?

When Romney says Russia was a threat in a debate with odumbo, odumbo said the 80's wanted their foreign policy back. You need help.

That's because Romney was speaking in terms of symmetrical warfare (aka ships, tanks, planes), not the asymmetrical warfare they waged in 2016.

Also, Russia didn't start using asymmetrical warfare against us until 2014.

It's funny how Cons try to retcon that bunch of bullshit.

 

[Earl]

Removing sanctions on Russians who just helped you win an election isn't proof?

Then why did he remove the sanctions?




That's because Romney was speaking in terms of symmetrical warfare (aka ships, tanks, planes), not the asymmetrical warfare they waged in 2016.

Also, Russia didn't start using asymmetrical warfare against us until 2014.

It's funny how Cons try to retcon that bunch of bullshit.

Why are you hidding from your thread, “ Did...did Uday Trump just say he's LGBTQ?,” cobarde?

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Speaking of sons, how many people think Eric Trump and Don Jr are really trusted by Donald to run the Trump Organization?

Thinking is one thing and evidence is another.

Hunter took 3.5 million from a Putin connected oligarch. At minimum, Joe is at least compromised by that, since Putin could pressure Hunter to get to Joe.

It’s you’re contention this is no biggie? These are Russians we’re talking about.

Russians.

 

[Nordberg]

Trump lost so much money that he could get no loans from American banks. The bankers knew that Trump will not pay them back . He also has trouble getting lawyers because he cheats them too.
Daffy always called himself the king of debt and bragged about spending "other people's money". After Daffy Jr said we do not worry about money now, we get all we need from Russia, Trump was flush with other people's cash. He bought expensive golf courses in various countries for cash. They are great devises for laundering money. On the way out, Bannon said trump's biggest problem is money laundering. He seems quite prophetic.

 

[Micawber]

Probably a lot is debt to nobody. He made some fake invoices to show losses and evade taxes. Trump is going to jail.

 

[Nordberg]

Hello Trumpet,



We will get to the bottom of the Trump swamp. Yes, it will be stinky.

Weismann said the investigation was different than others because in this case , the president had the power to shut it down. They had to be very careful. Then Barr completely mischaracterized the findings. Barr is such a sleaze bag.

 

[Flash]

I understand that there are very few banks that are willing to do business with Trump, so the likelihood that Trump resorted to Russian banks is a very scary thought, this would give Putin a leash with which to control Trump.

How do you control someone because they owe you money?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I would like to see the results of a comprehensive audit of Trump's entire life.

I'd like to see a socially-distanced gathering of all the thousands of ppl he fucked financially over the years with his multiple bankruptcies, stiffing contractors, etc. Bet they'd fill up more seats than the cultists at one of his Nuremberg rallies.

If I were one of the entities that he owes that $421 million to, I'd be very nervous about now. Can you smell another bankruptcy in the wind too?

 

[LV426]

How do you control someone because they owe you money?

Are you serious?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,



Oh, I didn't even know that about Sarah Palin.

And wow. She was the big laughing stock in the news for how long?

Ever since Birther -Man came on the scene it's like she fell off the planet.

Well, at least the Abominable President has angered so many with his hatred that nobody cares much about his $70K comb over any more.

I'd like to know how, exactly, any amount of money spent on "hair" styling can be considered a legitimate business expense. Maybe for a movie star, or TV anchor person, or someone whose appearance is essential to their employment. But for an IMPOTUS? Hmm. Not seeing it. Bet this guy didn't try to pull that bit of fraud.

 

[LV426]

How do you control someone because they owe you money?

Why do you think having tons of debt disqualifies you from national security positions? Let alone, debt owed to foreigners!!!

Fuck, even corporations won't hire you for certain roles (like Finance, A/R) if your financial situation is debt.

 

[LV426]

How do you control someone because they owe you money?

"Pay me this money you owe now or do this for me instead..."

Pretty easy to see how money controls people, Flash. If it didn't, no one would donate to political campaigns.

 

[Grokmaster]

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Revelations that President Donald Trump is personally liable for more than $400 million in debt are casting a shadow that ethics experts say raises national security concerns he could be manipulated to sway U.S. policy by organizations or individuals he’s indebted to."

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., was blunt about the potential implications. “He may be vulnerable to financial blackmail from a hostile foreign power and God knows what else,” said Warren, a frequent Trump critic."

SFGate: Ethics experts see national security concern in Trump's debt

"“Americans should be concerned about the president’s debt because it’s a national security risk for our country,” said Donald Sherman, deputy director of the nonprofit government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). “This is information that the president has aggressively and repeatedly tried to keep away from the public.”"

"Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics attorney in Republican George W. Bush's White House, also noted that Trump-owned companies have declared bankruptcy six times, raising the question: Why have lenders been willing to keep risking loans of such enormous amounts?

“Why would banks assume the risk on these loans?” Painter said. “Or did someone else quietly assume risk of that loan for the bank to make it happen?”"

"“The Trump Organization consists of hundreds of LLCs (limited liability corporations) that have been listed on his financial disclosure forms,” Clark said. “One of the things that Trump has benefitted from and that oligarchs and money launderers benefit from is opaqueness of LLCs, ... the ease of which individuals can hide their assets, can hide their financial interests.”

Trump refused to divest his business interests after his 2016 victory, and left day-to-day operation of his family’s real estate and other holdings to his sons Donald Jr. and Eric. Still, the president has benefitted personally from U.S. and foreign government activity at his properties since his election and hasn’t shied away from promoting his hotels and golf courses.

Republicans have held at least 88 political events at his properties, the president has visited his hotels and golf courses more than 500 times, and at least 13 foreign governments have held events at Trump establishments, according to a tally by CREW."

"In the runup to his 2016 election victory, Trump played down his bankruptcies as a smart business strategy and even referred to himself as the “king of debt.""

"Painter said that if Trump were attempting to appoint someone with his massive debt load to a high-profile government position, the nominee would almost certainly face trouble getting a security clearance. Indeed, inability or unwillingness to satisfy debts and a history of not meeting financial obligations could disqualify any federal employee from receiving a security clearance, according to government guidelines."

"Peter Schweizer, the president of the Government Accountability Institute, said: “The question is also one of whether the loans are tied to actual assets such as buildings, etc., or was the political figure granted special favors in getting loans. Politicians and their families can engage in commercial transactions, the question is whether the loans are unusual and unique compared to others in the marketplace.""

***

The question of loyalty is front and center.

Does Trump serve the American people?

Or does he serve his magic money benefactor creditors?

LEGAL BANKS.

AND $400 of DEBT IN S MUTLI-BILLION DOLLAR REAL ESTATE BUSINESS IS NO "GREAT SHAKES".


LEFTISTS ARE SUCH FUCKING MORONS....ALWAYS.

 

[Phantasmal]

I'd like to know how, exactly, any amount of money spent on "hair" styling can be considered a legitimate business expense. Maybe for a movie star, or TV anchor person, or someone whose appearance is essential to their employment. But for an IMPOTUS? Hmm. Not seeing it. Bet this guy didn't try to pull that bit of fraud.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/28/917810562/dont-deduct-that-haircut-just-yet-tax-court-has-rejected-such-claimants

The U.S. Tax Court has repeatedly ruled that the costs of maintaining an appealing appearance are not deductible, even for public personalities. In a 2011 case, the court ruled against a television news anchor who wanted to claim deductions for the costs of maintaining her personal appearance.
Expenses "for manicures, grooming, teeth whitening, and skin care are inherently personal expenditures," the court ruled in that case, which involved a journalist in Ohio named Anietra Hamper.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

How do you control someone because they owe you money?

I'm shocked that you would ask this question. It was one of the USSR's favorite ways to control key ppl in other countries. Blackmail, threats of calling in the loan(s), threats of publicizing the loan(s). It's the reason why it is difficult to get much more than a grunt position in the finance and IT industries. You're considered a security risk if you have high debt and/or poor credit.

 

[Phantasmal]

Why do you think having tons of debt disqualifies you from national security positions? Let alone, debt owed to foreigners!!!

Fuck, even corporations won't hire you for certain roles (like Finance, A/R) if your financial situation is debt.

I understand that landlords require credit reports, they won’t rent to you if debt is too high or bad credit.

 

[Flash]

"Pay me this money you owe now or do this for me instead..."

Pretty easy to see how money controls people, Flash. If it didn't, no one would donate to political campaigns.

What makes you think the loan is a pay on demand? I bet your car loan and house loan cannot demand you pay now. Another one of your "assumptions"?

 

[Trumpet]

Hello Trumpet,



Maybe Trump is indebted to the Russian mafia.

True, and the Godfather of the Russia Mafia is Putin.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Revelations that President Donald Trump is personally liable for more than $400 million in debt are casting a shadow that ethics experts say raises national security concerns he could be manipulated to sway U.S. policy by organizations or individuals he’s indebted to."

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., was blunt about the potential implications. “He may be vulnerable to financial blackmail from a hostile foreign power and God knows what else,” said Warren, a frequent Trump critic."

SFGate: Ethics experts see national security concern in Trump's debt

"“Americans should be concerned about the president’s debt because it’s a national security risk for our country,” said Donald Sherman, deputy director of the nonprofit government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). “This is information that the president has aggressively and repeatedly tried to keep away from the public.”"

"Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics attorney in Republican George W. Bush's White House, also noted that Trump-owned companies have declared bankruptcy six times, raising the question: Why have lenders been willing to keep risking loans of such enormous amounts?

“Why would banks assume the risk on these loans?” Painter said. “Or did someone else quietly assume risk of that loan for the bank to make it happen?”"

"“The Trump Organization consists of hundreds of LLCs (limited liability corporations) that have been listed on his financial disclosure forms,” Clark said. “One of the things that Trump has benefitted from and that oligarchs and money launderers benefit from is opaqueness of LLCs, ... the ease of which individuals can hide their assets, can hide their financial interests.”

Trump refused to divest his business interests after his 2016 victory, and left day-to-day operation of his family’s real estate and other holdings to his sons Donald Jr. and Eric. Still, the president has benefitted personally from U.S. and foreign government activity at his properties since his election and hasn’t shied away from promoting his hotels and golf courses.

Republicans have held at least 88 political events at his properties, the president has visited his hotels and golf courses more than 500 times, and at least 13 foreign governments have held events at Trump establishments, according to a tally by CREW."

"In the runup to his 2016 election victory, Trump played down his bankruptcies as a smart business strategy and even referred to himself as the “king of debt.""

"Painter said that if Trump were attempting to appoint someone with his massive debt load to a high-profile government position, the nominee would almost certainly face trouble getting a security clearance. Indeed, inability or unwillingness to satisfy debts and a history of not meeting financial obligations could disqualify any federal employee from receiving a security clearance, according to government guidelines."

"Peter Schweizer, the president of the Government Accountability Institute, said: “The question is also one of whether the loans are tied to actual assets such as buildings, etc., or was the political figure granted special favors in getting loans. Politicians and their families can engage in commercial transactions, the question is whether the loans are unusual and unique compared to others in the marketplace.""

***

The question of loyalty is front and center.

Does Trump serve the American people?

Or does he serve his magic money benefactor creditors?