Who Is Trump Indebted TO????

Wow,

What an ignorant question!

Who-Is-COVID MONITORING Indebted to?

That's the question!

When war is declared ---who are the fighters Indebted to?

Oh yeah there be debtors.
 
Flash said:
What makes you think the loan is a pay on demand?
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Fine! What happens when the loan is due and you can't pay it? We don't know the details of Trump's many, many loans because they're "undisclosed lenders".


I bet your car loan and house loan cannot demand you pay now.
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No, but if I can't pay when I'm supposed to, what happens, Flash? Do I get to keep my car and home?


Another one of your "assumptions"?
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The idea that money doesn't control you is naive at best, bad faith at worst.
 
Who is Trump indebted to? My guess, would be Russia?!!


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Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Thinking is one thing and evidence is another.

Hunter took 3.5 million from a Putin connected oligarch. At minimum, Joe is at least compromised by that, since Putin could pressure Hunter to get to Joe.

It’s you’re contention this is no biggie? These are Russians we’re talking about.

Russians.
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Do you have a link?
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
Trump lost so much money that he could get no loans from American banks. The bankers knew that Trump will not pay them back . He also has trouble getting lawyers because he cheats them too.
Daffy always called himself the king of debt and bragged about spending "other people's money". After Daffy Jr said we do not worry about money now, we get all we need from Russia, Trump was flush with other people's cash. He bought expensive golf courses in various countries for cash. They are great devises for laundering money. On the way out, Bannon said trump's biggest problem is money laundering. He seems quite prophetic.
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So that's two insiders who said Trump would be going down on money.

Very interesting.

And now some of the sordid details are coming out.
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
Weismann said the investigation was different than others because in this case , the president had the power to shut it down. They had to be very careful. Then Barr completely mischaracterized the findings. Barr is such a sleaze bag.
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The Trump supporters absolutely trashed Mueller, but after all, Mueller IS a Republican. He went easy on Trump. He could have charged Trump with obstruction.
 
Hello Trumpet,

Trumpet said:
I understand that there are very few banks that are willing to do business with Trump, so the likelihood that Trump resorted to Russian banks is a very scary thought, this would give Putin a leash with which to control Trump.
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Putin has a choker collar on 'golden toilets' Trump and it's more than golden showers.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
How do you control someone because they owe you money?
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A very good question.

1. The debt could be exposed. Very damaging to someone who is all about public image, claiming he is so successful, when the reality paints a different picture of massive unpaid debts to foreigners.

2. The loan could be called in.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
I'd like to see a socially-distanced gathering of all the thousands of ppl he fucked financially over the years with his multiple bankruptcies, stiffing contractors, etc. Bet they'd fill up more seats than the cultists at one of his Nuremberg rallies.

If I were one of the entities that he owes that $421 million to, I'd be very nervous about now. Can you smell another bankruptcy in the wind too?
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Yeah, that bankruptcy thing. We know there is a way to declare bankruptcy in the USA and be absolved of repayment, but how does that work internationally? Especially if the loans are held by people with connections to the KGB or the Russian mafia?

People who play dirty don't stop at the principle.

The family could become involved.
 
PoliTalker said:
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Revelations that President Donald Trump is personally liable for more than $400 million in debt are casting a shadow that ethics experts say raises national security concerns he could be manipulated to sway U.S. policy by organizations or individuals he’s indebted to."

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., was blunt about the potential implications. “He may be vulnerable to financial blackmail from a hostile foreign power and God knows what else,” said Warren, a frequent Trump critic."

SFGate: Ethics experts see national security concern in Trump's debt

"“Americans should be concerned about the president’s debt because it’s a national security risk for our country,” said Donald Sherman, deputy director of the nonprofit government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). “This is information that the president has aggressively and repeatedly tried to keep away from the public.”"

"Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics attorney in Republican George W. Bush's White House, also noted that Trump-owned companies have declared bankruptcy six times, raising the question: Why have lenders been willing to keep risking loans of such enormous amounts?

“Why would banks assume the risk on these loans?” Painter said. “Or did someone else quietly assume risk of that loan for the bank to make it happen?”"

"“The Trump Organization consists of hundreds of LLCs (limited liability corporations) that have been listed on his financial disclosure forms,” Clark said. “One of the things that Trump has benefitted from and that oligarchs and money launderers benefit from is opaqueness of LLCs, ... the ease of which individuals can hide their assets, can hide their financial interests.”

Trump refused to divest his business interests after his 2016 victory, and left day-to-day operation of his family’s real estate and other holdings to his sons Donald Jr. and Eric. Still, the president has benefitted personally from U.S. and foreign government activity at his properties since his election and hasn’t shied away from promoting his hotels and golf courses.

Republicans have held at least 88 political events at his properties, the president has visited his hotels and golf courses more than 500 times, and at least 13 foreign governments have held events at Trump establishments, according to a tally by CREW."

"In the runup to his 2016 election victory, Trump played down his bankruptcies as a smart business strategy and even referred to himself as the “king of debt.""

"Painter said that if Trump were attempting to appoint someone with his massive debt load to a high-profile government position, the nominee would almost certainly face trouble getting a security clearance. Indeed, inability or unwillingness to satisfy debts and a history of not meeting financial obligations could disqualify any federal employee from receiving a security clearance, according to government guidelines."

"Peter Schweizer, the president of the Government Accountability Institute, said: “The question is also one of whether the loans are tied to actual assets such as buildings, etc., or was the political figure granted special favors in getting loans. Politicians and their families can engage in commercial transactions, the question is whether the loans are unusual and unique compared to others in the marketplace.""

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The question of loyalty is front and center.

Does Trump serve the American people?

Or does he serve his magic money benefactor creditors?
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Every US taxpayer to the tune of his life.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
I'd like to know how, exactly, any amount of money spent on "hair" styling can be considered a legitimate business expense. Maybe for a movie star, or TV anchor person, or someone whose appearance is essential to their employment. But for an IMPOTUS? Hmm. Not seeing it. Bet this guy didn't try to pull that bit of fraud.

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I like Ike.

Warned the nation of the problem of the Military Industrial Complex.

He was right.

No comb-over required.
 
Hello Phantasmal,

Phantasmal said:
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/28/917810562/dont-deduct-that-haircut-just-yet-tax-court-has-rejected-such-claimants

The U.S. Tax Court has repeatedly ruled that the costs of maintaining an appealing appearance are not deductible, even for public personalities. In a 2011 case, the court ruled against a television news anchor who wanted to claim deductions for the costs of maintaining her personal appearance.
Expenses "for manicures, grooming, teeth whitening, and skin care are inherently personal expenditures," the court ruled in that case, which involved a journalist in Ohio named Anietra Hamper.
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Oh my. Looks like Trump is guilty of tax fraud.
 
Darth Omar said:
A lot of people lol? He’s a flipping billionaire businessman.

Maybe Joe can provide evidence of illegality.

What does your son owe the Russian and Putin connected oligarch, Joe?
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Umm, still sticking with that lie?
If he was a billionare, he wouldn't be broke, huh moron?
 
PoliTalker said:
Yeah, that bankruptcy thing. We know there is a way to declare bankruptcy in the USA and be absolved of repayment, but how does that work internationally? Especially if the loans are held by people with connections to the KGB or the Russian mafia?
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I bet he had to pledge some or all of his properties as surety.

People who play dirty don't stop at the principle.

The family could become involved.
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Hopefully sharing a prison block at Ryker.
 
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