Why are liberals afraid to answer this question?

Bfgrn said:
Translation: 911 got hammered on the question asked in the OP, so now it's time to change the question.

How about this? Let's make the requirements for owning a gun as strict as owning and driving a car? A written test to acquire a Learners permit. A license to own and operate a gun, which means passing a test proving you can safely operate a weapon. To own a gun, you must register the weapon with the state you live in, show proof of adequate insurance to cover any injury caused, and have the weapon inspected every year.
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What a great idea!

Taichiliberal said:
See folks, this intellectual coward who disgraces the memory of 911 with his screen name AVOIDS a simple question by blowing smoke.....just like he can't honestly deal with this http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...to-answer-this-question&p=1212136#post1212136


From this point on, USFreedom just babbles, bluffs, blusters and lies because it's just too much for him to admit on an anonymous format like this that he's wrong on a point. So unless he's willing to deal with FACTS presented and not childishly act like a discussion is a one way street that he controls, I'll just move on and leave him to his silliness.
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Or he calls you a fag.
 
Bfgrn said:
Translation: 911 got hammered on the question asked in the OP, so now it's time to change the question.

How about this? Let's make the requirements for owning a gun as strict as owning and driving a car? A written test to acquire a Learners permit. A license to own and operate a gun, which means passing a test proving you can safely operate a weapon. To own a gun, you must register the weapon with the state you live in, show proof of adequate insurance to cover any injury caused, and have the weapon inspected every year.
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What you've posted is already being done, when buying a vehicle from a dealership; but these aren't the requirements for someone to buy a vehicle through a private party, so why do you want to continue leaving this vehicle loophole open?
 
Taichiliberal said:
And let's put an end to USFreedom's desperate attempt to avoid the simple facts regarding the NRA bullshit on background checks for ALL gun purchases:

American Gun Deaths to Exceed Traffic Fatalities by 2015
By Chris Christoff & Ilan Kolet - Dec 19, 2012 2:23 PM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i3cs6F7hTHkc.jpg
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I wasn't aware that we had people who were able to see into the future.
OH-WAIT, you're referring to an OPINION PIECE and is just that; AN OPINION.
Thank you for playing.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
And let's put an end to USFreedom's desperate attempt to avoid the simple facts regarding the NRA bullshit on background checks for ALL gun purchases:

American Gun Deaths to Exceed Traffic Fatalities by 2015
By Chris Christoff & Ilan Kolet - Dec 19, 2012 2:23 PM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-by-2015.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i3cs6F7hTHkc.jpg
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I wasn't aware that we had people who were able to see into the future.
OH-WAIT, you're referring to an OPINION PIECE and is just that; AN OPINION.
Thank you for playing.
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See folks, USFreedom was proven wrong regarding his "simple question", so he tried to change the subject. Then when presented with a reputable source that disproves his rhetoric regarding DUI deaths and gun deaths, he then just goes into his insipidly stubborn denial mode, falsely accusing everyone and everything else and just merely unsubstantiated opinion (EXCEPT his own).

Once again, USFreedom911 just prattles on with his convoluted "logic" and oft repeated dodges, bluffs and bluster. Let's watch him claim "victory" based on repeating his silliness and ignoring documented valid facts. So much more to pity him, because like he says, he's "not aware".

Play on, fool!
 
Taichiliberal said:
See folks, USFreedom was proven wrong regarding his "simple question", so he tried to change the subject. Then when presented with a reputable source that disproves his rhetoric regarding DUI deaths and gun deaths, he then just goes into his insipidly stubborn denial mode, falsely accusing everyone and everything else and just merely unsubstantiated opinion (EXCEPT his own).

Once again, USFreedom911 just prattles on with his convoluted "logic" and oft repeated dodges, bluffs and bluster. Let's watch him claim "victory" based on repeating his silliness and ignoring documented valid facts. So much more to pity him, because like he says, he's "not aware".

Play on, fool!
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That's it.
Keep believing that someone's opinion proves someone else wrong.

Using your logic; you'd have to find a huge amount of people, to disprove the opininon that you're an idiot. :O
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
That's it.
Keep believing that someone's opinion proves someone else wrong.

Using your logic; you'd have to find a huge amount of people, to disprove the opininon that you're an idiot. :O
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Once again, USFreedom REFUSES to read the information presented in the article, takes one part of the information out of context, attaches his personal supposition and conjecture, and repeats ad nauseum.

Like I said before, USFreedom was PROVEN WRONG with regard to his subject title question, so he tried to change the subject. He was proven wrong there too, but USFreedom is too much of an insipidly stubborn intellectual coward to admit such.

And in case he's STILL in denial, this article from last year preference what I posted earlier:

According to a May report by the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center, Colorado was one of 10 states where gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 2009.
The VPC released its analysis back in May of this year, but the numbers are sure to still catch a lot of people by surprise. Here's the breakdown straight from the report: (Motor vehicle deaths are defined to include both occupants and pedestrians)


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...outpace_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_at_least.html


Add the heightened rate at which gunners have been purchasing weapons since Obama took office, and one can see that a projection is not just an opinion.



While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

AND AGAIN, WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Once again, USFreedom REFUSES to read the information presented in the article, takes one part of the information out of context, attaches his personal supposition and conjecture, and repeats ad nauseum.

Like I said before, USFreedom was PROVEN WRONG with regard to his subject title question, so he tried to change the subject. He was proven wrong there too, but USFreedom is too much of an insipidly stubborn intellectual coward to admit such.

And in case he's STILL in denial, this article from last year preference what I posted earlier:

According to a May report by the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center, Colorado was one of 10 states where gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 2009.
The VPC released its analysis back in May of this year, but the numbers are sure to still catch a lot of people by surprise. Here's the breakdown straight from the report: (Motor vehicle deaths are defined to include both occupants and pedestrians)


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...outpace_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_at_least.html


Add the heightened rate at which gunners have been purchasing weapons since Obama took office, and one can see that a projection is not just an opinion.



While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

AND AGAIN, WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
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Once again, ChiChiliberal refuses to pay attention to the chronology of the posts and has shown that he believes an OP is more factual then the facts themselves.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Once again, USFreedom REFUSES to read the information presented in the article, takes one part of the information out of context, attaches his personal supposition and conjecture, and repeats ad nauseum.

Like I said before, USFreedom was PROVEN WRONG with regard to his subject title question, so he tried to change the subject. He was proven wrong there too, but USFreedom is too much of an insipidly stubborn intellectual coward to admit such.

And in case he's STILL in denial, this article from last year preference what I posted earlier:

According to a May report by the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center, Colorado was one of 10 states where gun deaths outpaced motor vehicle deaths in 2009.
The VPC released its analysis back in May of this year, but the numbers are sure to still catch a lot of people by surprise. Here's the breakdown straight from the report: (Motor vehicle deaths are defined to include both occupants and pedestrians)


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._at_least.html


Add the heightened rate at which gunners have been purchasing weapons since Obama took office, and one can see that a projection is not just an opinion.



While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-by-2015.html

AND AGAIN, WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
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Once again, ChiChiliberal refuses to pay attention to the chronology of the posts and has shown that he believes an OP is more factual then the facts themselves.
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You can bray that BS until doomsday, but the information I put forth shows a DECLINE in auto accident deaths and an INCREASE in gun related deaths.....the projection is based on a 10 year trend....an example given from one state in the last 3 years.

Again, USFreedom is an intellectual coward because he was proven WRONG on his original assertion...then he threw in a side issue to try to somehow bolster his original error.....and when that was shown NOT to turn out as he alluded to, he just parrots wishful thinking while ignoring FACTS.


And of course, USFreedom will NEVER answer a simple question,as an honest answer will thwart his stated beliefs:

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
 
Non of those pussy gun nuts will address why France and England have a fraction of the gun murders annually.
You know Europeans can't do anything better than us.
Despite being wealthier!
 
The Dude said:
Non of those pussy gun nuts will address why France and England have a fraction of the gun murders annually.
You know Europeans can't do anything better than us.
Despite being wealthier!
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And of course when you answer USFreedom's questions, and he can't refute or disprove the answer, he just moves the goal post and demands YOU answer more questions, while ignoring relative questions to himself.

You'd think this guy would have grown up by now.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You can bray that BS until doomsday, but the information I put forth shows a DECLINE in auto accident deaths and an INCREASE in gun related deaths.....the projection is based on a 10 year trend....an example given from one state in the last 3 years.

Again, USFreedom is an intellectual coward because he was proven WRONG on his original assertion...then he threw in a side issue to try to somehow bolster his original error.....and when that was shown NOT to turn out as he alluded to, he just parrots wishful thinking while ignoring FACTS.


And of course, USFreedom will NEVER answer a simple question,as an honest answer will thwart his stated beliefs:

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
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So now a PROJECTION is considered to be an absolute.
Your attempts are becoming more pathetic then usual and anyone reading the chronology of the posts will be able to see this. :)
 
Taichiliberal said:
And of course when you answer USFreedom's questions, and he can't refute or disprove the answer, he just moves the goal post and demands YOU answer more questions, while ignoring relative questions to himself.

You'd think this guy would have grown up by now.
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Please...just call him USF. The word "freedom" has no correlation with his views.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You can bray that BS until doomsday, but the information I put forth shows a DECLINE in auto accident deaths and an INCREASE in gun related deaths.....the projection is based on a 10 year trend....an example given from one state in the last 3 years.

Again, USFreedom is an intellectual coward because he was proven WRONG on his original assertion...then he threw in a side issue to try to somehow bolster his original error.....and when that was shown NOT to turn out as he alluded to, he just parrots wishful thinking while ignoring FACTS.


And of course, USFreedom will NEVER answer a simple question,as an honest answer will thwart his stated beliefs:

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE THE NRA FLUNKIES, TEABAGGERS, NEOCONS, OATHERS, THREEPERS, AND LOONY LIBERTARIANS SO MUCH?
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So now a PROJECTION is considered to be an absolute.
Your attempts are becoming more pathetic then usual and anyone reading the chronology of the posts will be able to see this. :)
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Who said it was "absolute"? I didn't And this side bar of yours shows a DOCUMENTED INCREASE in gun related deaths and a DECREASE in DUI auto related deaths. The GAP is closing, and with the market rise in gun crime fatalities (ex., NYC crimes where the guns were traced back to states with lax gun laws regarding purchase), the projection may not be perfect, but it sure as hell is NOT unrealistic.

We've already done this dance, and the chronology of the posts shows you to be nothing but a cowardly clown unable to admit when you're wrong and blowing smoke by dodging a simple question.

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE YOU SO MUCH?

When you grow a pair to honestly answer the question, I'll respond. Until then, I'll just watch you do the usual neocon shuffle of repetition, willful ignorance, lies and denies and dodges. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Who said it was "absolute"? I didn't And this side bar of yours shows a DOCUMENTED INCREASE in gun related deaths and a DECREASE in DUI auto related deaths. The GAP is closing, and with the market rise in gun crime fatalities (ex., NYC crimes where the guns were traced back to states with lax gun laws regarding purchase), the projection may not be perfect, but it sure as hell is NOT unrealistic.

We've already done this dance, and the chronology of the posts shows you to be nothing but a cowardly clown unable to admit when you're wrong and blowing smoke by dodging a simple question.

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE YOU SO MUCH?

When you grow a pair to honestly answer the question, I'll respond. Until then, I'll just watch you do the usual neocon shuffle of repetition, willful ignorance, lies and denies and dodges. Carry on.
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Since you're now attempting to compare deaths' by firearms and those caused by DUIs; does this mean that you're in agreement that all vehicles need to be required to be equipped with interlocking ignition devices, so that a drunk can't borrow or steal a car to avoid his own vehicle?
 
Here is a little piece of info a lot of you probably didn't know. Many states reinstate rights that are lost with a felony conviction. Here in NM after 10 years, a convicted felon can legally vote again, and own fire arms.
 
Socrtease said:
Here is a little piece of info a lot of you probably didn't know. Many states reinstate rights that are lost with a felony conviction. Here in NM after 10 years, a convicted felon can legally vote again, and own fire arms.
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In Arizona you must wait two years from your date of discharge, if you've served time for two or more felonies, and you must petition the same court in which you were convicted.
If you haven't served time and were only on probation, you do not need to wait the 2 years.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Who said it was "absolute"? I didn't And this side bar of yours shows a DOCUMENTED INCREASE in gun related deaths and a DECREASE in DUI auto related deaths. The GAP is closing, and with the market rise in gun crime fatalities (ex., NYC crimes where the guns were traced back to states with lax gun laws regarding purchase), the projection may not be perfect, but it sure as hell is NOT unrealistic.

We've already done this dance, and the chronology of the posts shows you to be nothing but a cowardly clown unable to admit when you're wrong and blowing smoke by dodging a simple question.

WHY DOES A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK SCARE YOU SO MUCH?

When you grow a pair to honestly answer the question, I'll respond. Until then, I'll just watch you do the usual neocon shuffle of repetition, willful ignorance, lies and denies and dodges. Carry on.
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Since you're now attempting to compare deaths' by firearms and those caused by DUIs; does this mean that you're in agreement that all vehicles need to be required to be equipped with interlocking ignition devices, so that a drunk can't borrow or steal a car to avoid his own vehicle?
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As the chronology of the posts shows, it was your equally brain dead and cowardly buddy Nova who introduced the comparison, to which YOU joined in while trying to best Jarod. I just followed suit to show that what you and Nova put forth was NOT as clear cut as you would have everyone believe, thus putting an end to your oft repeated straw man argument to avoid admitting you are wrong about Liberals answering your silly question and all that you bluff and blustered about afterward.

Back to square one: Why are YOU so afraid of a background check?
 
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