Why are the majority of mass shooters

[Dutch Uncle]

Why are the majority of mass shooters
Aggrieved white males with mental health issues?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...is-fedex-facility-authorities-say/ar-BB1fHUPB

A simple question with a complex answer. Most mass shootings are same race on same race or, at least, on same economic level and male. The maleness is the common link since female mass shooters, regardless of race, are exceptionally rare.

It takes money to buy guns which is why poor people rarely have them and the middle class owns the majority of firearms in the USA. Like women catching up to men in dying of smoking-induced cancer, all non-white races are catching up to whites in economics. This should translate into more "equal opportunity mass murders" without an increase in mental healthcare.

Mental health care and supporting legislation. All of the notorious mass shooters were mentally ill including Brandon Scott Hole, 19 years old, who the FBI investigated last year due to his mother's concerns about him desires to commit suicide by cop. Note that most mass shooters cap themselves at the end. As we say in Texas, "that ain't right." The FBI's hands were tied with Brandon just as Florida cop's hands were tied with Nikolas Cruz and other nutjobs who were known to be nuts such as Jared Loughner and James Holmes.

https://www.census.gov/library/stor...-hispanics-reached-historic-lows-in-2019.html

https://apnews.com/article/fedex-indianapolis-mass-shooting-e92ad3117c56357b3b2c71a2903e68a8
The former employee who shot and killed eight people at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis was interviewed by FBI agents last year, after his mother called police to say that her son might commit “suicide by cop,” the bureau said Friday, as investigators searched for a motive in the latest mass shooting to rock the U.S.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

If you move that entire chart one square to the Left and skew the left side down about one and the right side up about one, it's about correct. Not completely, but closer to reality.

I don't *THINK* so.

That would result in no 'most extreme right' media sources at all. And we know that's not true.

It would also place Fox as 'skews right' instead of 'hyper partisan.'

Ridiculous.

The chart looks accurate to me.

But that view is understandable. Many conservatives think they are the center of everything, and that most of the media is liberal. It's very common for conservatives to be out of touch with reality. It's amusing that they wanna be on the right, but they don't want to admit it. What's that all about? If people wish to embrace certain views, fine, why don't they just own it? Is there shame in being conservative?

I have zero problem with being liberal. I am GLAD to be liberal. It's the compassionate and logical place to be for a member of the human collective. We live in societies. We are social animals. We are not loners, and we enjoy the benefits of living in society. We are far better off for having society than we are from individualism. Might as well admit it and deal with it. We depend on one another. Now, during the pandemic, more than ever.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The Blaze? Are you fucking kidding?

Lower right quadrant for morons, idiots, conspiracists.

I'm sure Cummie123 knows all about The Blaze and its poor record on facts and truthful reporting. Cummie123 doesn't care if what he says is bullshit. She just cares about how many other poor, gullible, naive morons she can get to swallow this bullshit.
There are plenty of radical right wing Qanon, Proud Boy losers who will swallow this and disseminate it to other radical right wing extremists.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I agree. Violence is glorified in America.

There are lots of clues.

When I was a kid in the 1950s, parents thought it was fine for us to watch films with cowboys and "Indians" killing one another savagely, but thought it unseemly for us to see so much as a bare female breast on the screen.

More sophisticated Europeans kept their kids away from violent movies, but the moms went topless when the family was at the beach.

It may not be quite as bad now, at least on the two coasts, but we definitely have culture problems in this country.

 

[christiefan915]

There are lots of clues.

When I was a kid in the 1950s, parents thought it was fine for us to watch films with cowboys and "Indians" killing one another savagely, but thought it unseemly for us to see so much as a bare female breast on the screen.

More sophisticated Europeans kept their kids away from violent movies, but the moms went topless when the family was at the beach.

It may not be quite as bad now, at least on the two coasts, but we definitely have culture problems in this country.

I think it's weird, the panic and outrage over a nip slip, for example, over gratuitous violence. And the double standards, as in the Janet Jackson-Justin Timberlake fiasco. He planned that episode, suffered no repercussions from it, but JJ had her songs banned from the radio along with other career damage. </feminist rant>

This country still has a lot of growing up to do regarding what's normal and natural with the human body.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



I don't *THINK* so.

That would result in no 'most extreme right' media sources at all. And we know that's not true.

It would also place Fox as 'skews right' instead of 'hyper partisan.'

Ridiculous.

The chart looks accurate to me.

But that view is understandable. Many conservatives think they are the center of everything, and that most of the media is liberal. It's very common for conservatives to be out of touch with reality. It's amusing that they wanna be on the right, but they don't want to admit it. What's that all about? If people wish to embrace certain views, fine, why don't they just own it? Is there shame in being conservative?

I have zero problem with being liberal. I am GLAD to be liberal. It's the compassionate and logical place to be for a member of the human collective. We live in societies. We are social animals. We are not loners, and we enjoy the benefits of living in society. We are far better off for having society than we are from individualism. Might as well admit it and deal with it. We depend on one another. Now, during the pandemic, more than ever.

I did say not completely. But as it is, many sources both Right and Left are skewed to the Right by about one square and skewed up and down respectively by the same. As one glaring example of this, Fox News is rated more extreme and unfair / biased than the The Young Turks Network. The later is just short of radical Leftist propaganda and little more than opinion. Or the positioning of CNN. There is no way in hell CNN is "neutral" in their reporting. They even admit as much themselves.

One way to tell this is generally correct is to look at polling of persons on the Left v. Right and their opinions and positions believed the side holds. The Left is generally badly wrong about what the Right thinks, while the Right is generally correct in their views of the Left.

https://theindependentwhig.com/haid...etter-than-liberals-understand-conservatives/
https://fee.org/articles/why-conservatives-cant-understand-liberals-and-vice-versa/
https://quillette.com/2018/03/10/psychology-progressive-hostility/

Whoever made that chart has some serious bias of their own to deal with.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

You are one silly, masochistic, Nazi blimp.

What will you do when you want to stop this little game, but I won't oblige you?

shit my pants I spose.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



I don't *THINK* so.

That would result in no 'most extreme right' media sources at all. And we know that's not true.

It would also place Fox as 'skews right' instead of 'hyper partisan.'

Ridiculous.

The chart looks accurate to me.

But that view is understandable. Many conservatives think they are the center of everything, and that most of the media is liberal. It's very common for conservatives to be out of touch with reality. It's amusing that they wanna be on the right, but they don't want to admit it. What's that all about? If people wish to embrace certain views, fine, why don't they just own it? Is there shame in being conservative?

I have zero problem with being liberal. I am GLAD to be liberal. It's the compassionate and logical place to be for a member of the human collective. We live in societies. We are social animals. We are not loners, and we enjoy the benefits of living in society. We are far better off for having society than we are from individualism. Might as well admit it and deal with it. We depend on one another. Now, during the pandemic, more than ever.

we are individuals and living in a society. when you obscure human nature because you wish it was something else, all your predictive models lose accuracy because you're a fucking moron.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I think it's weird, the panic and outrage over a nip slip, for example, over gratuitous violence. And the double standards, as in the Janet Jackson-Justin Timberlake fiasco. He planned that episode, suffered no repercussions from it, but JJ had her songs banned from the radio along with other career damage. </feminist rant>

This country still has a lot of growing up to do regarding what's normal and natural with the human body.

right. and puberty blockers for children is normal and natural.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

There are lots of clues.

When I was a kid in the 1950s, parents thought it was fine for us to watch films with cowboys and "Indians" killing one another savagely, but thought it unseemly for us to see so much as a bare female breast on the screen.

More sophisticated Europeans kept their kids away from violent movies, but the moms went topless when the family was at the beach.

It may not be quite as bad now, at least on the two coasts, but we definitely have culture problems in this country.

definitely true. europe has its own problems. like the indigineous people being susceptible to being shamed out of their own will to live by insane jews.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Cherry pick all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that so many RWers on this forum routinely cite the conspiracy/propaganda sites. The Blaze is merely one of many.

KOS and Alternet are the only ones that I ever see quoted by the left on this forum that even remotely approach those for lies and misinformation. REMOTELY is the key word.

cnn and msnbc are cited all the time. it's hoax a second from fake russiagate to medical covid disinformation.

 

[evince]

I don't know, G.

But this is who and what we are.
Why is it so hard to accept the obvious?

The entire world sees Americans as the people with guns who routinely shoot one another.
We have a few people among our own who find this repugnant,
and they speak up a lot to sound as if they are greater in number than they are.

Most of us, however, are armed killers by nature and spend our lives suppressing it if we can.
The ones who aren't by nature are trained by the government to become such whenever we decide to have a military draft
as was the case when I was young.

If people are born in a shooting gallery, the ones who get to grow up at all grow up to be shooters.
Some people have problems accepting the truth about themselves, especially where it comes to being born an armed and dangerous American.
I've learned to live with it.

Most of us don’t have to repress such feelings as we don’t have them


51% of the population are women

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Evan Sayet says that Liberals tend to choose the evil, the failed and the worst possible choice in any given situation.

The third choice is illustrated by your decision.

You WANT me to insult you.

But because I didn't make it personal in the past, you now have made the decision to invite me to do so.

I shall.

At the times and in the threads of my choosing.

What phrase will you use when you have had enough?

he's a crybully. this is what they do.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

I did say not completely. But as it is, many sources both Right and Left are skewed to the Right by about one square and skewed up and down respectively by the same. As one glaring example of this, Fox News is rated more extreme and unfair / biased than the The Young Turks Network. The later is just short of radical Leftist propaganda and little more than opinion. Or the positioning of CNN. There is no way in hell CNN is "neutral" in their reporting. They even admit as much themselves.

One way to tell this is generally correct is to look at polling of persons on the Left v. Right and their opinions and positions believed the side holds. The Left is generally badly wrong about what the Right thinks, while the Right is generally correct in their views of the Left.

https://theindependentwhig.com/haid...etter-than-liberals-understand-conservatives/
https://fee.org/articles/why-conservatives-cant-understand-liberals-and-vice-versa/
https://quillette.com/2018/03/10/psychology-progressive-hostility/

Whoever made that chart has some serious bias of their own to deal with.

The very fact that you think one person created that chart is mistaken.

You might like this one better:

Media Bias Chart

It doesn't break things down as specifically, doesn't even rate accuracy, and shows no extremist sources at all. Just calls things "Left," "Leans left," "Center," "Leans Right," and "Right."

It still shows Fox opinion all the way to the right.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Most of us don’t have to repress such feelings as we don’t have them


51% of the population are women

women abuse more children than men.

 

[evince]

women abuse more children than men.

Link

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I would have guessed that it's genetically baked in, but we're so diverse that such would be hard to explain.
Maybe it's culturally baked in.

yep. you've been to too many racial affinity group shame sessions.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Link

nah.

 

[evince]

nah.

The fly died

Putin poisoned the pretzel

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Aggrieved white males with mental health issues?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...is-fedex-facility-authorities-say/ar-BB1fHUPB

And they are notoriously radical right wing extremists:

Jim David Adkisson went on a shooting rampage at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee. "I hate the damn left-wing Liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the Nation, trying to turn the country into a communist state.
Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the Mainstream Media. But I know these people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people.
Liberals are a pest, like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather.
I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go Kill Liberals!"

Jeremy Christian shouted during his arrest after he brutally stabbed two Americans “Kill all Christians, Muslims and Jews. You call it terrorism. I call it Patriotism!”

“You blacks are killing white people on the streets everyday and raping white women everyday,” Mr. Roof said during his shooting rampage that killed nine African-American churchgoers

James Alex Fields Jr was charged with second-degree murder, one count of hit-and-run, failure to stop with injury and three counts of malicious wounding. On his social media accounts, Fields “expressed and promoted his belief that white people are superior to other races and peoples; expressed support of the social and racial policies of Adolf Hitler and Nazi-era Germany, including the Holocaust; and espoused violence against African Americans, Jewish people and members of other racial; ethnic and religious groups he perceived to be non-white.”
Fields is registered as member of Trump's Republican Party.