Why Do Conservatives Hate Immigrants So Much?

[Minister of Truth]

Hello Howard the Duck,



Any chance you would like to ask a non loaded question that doesn't make any false assumptions or stereotypes?

You first.

 

[Celticguy]

I don't know, as I haven't found those numbers. Maybe it's extremely few, since the home of white Muslims, Albania, is a way better country than Saudi Arabia. But there are plenty of black Muslims that would probably like living in Saudi Arabia, since it would be a step up from Africa. However, Saudi Arabia isn't taking in immigrants from those countries either.

Throughout history, race has always been more important than religion. Just look at how different Christianity is depending on the race of the community of Christians.

No question racism exists in the world and impacts things.
Some asians shun other races because they are textbook racists.

 

[StoneByStone]

No question racism exists in the world and impacts things.
Some asians shun other races because they are textbook racists.

You can call it racism, but I just see it as human tribalism. Tribes stick together. We can complain about it, or we can accept it, and make laws and policy based on it.

 

[Celticguy]

You can call it racism, but I just see it as human tribalism. Tribes stick together. We can complain about it, or we can accept it, and make laws and policy based on it.

Culture / tribalism essentially the same thing.
Kaws and policy are nice but will not bring about the synergy of the melting pot. If the various tribes fail to see that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts well you never get that whole.
Melting does not mean losing anything important to you but for some they just wont see it that way. And if the dogma reinforces it, so much the harder.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

I don't care about muh constitution. I want laws based on logic. And allowing people freedom of association is logical, it should be a basic human right.

I accept it, but I don't see it as a good thing. Like I explained before, multiracialism lowers social trust and causes unnecessary problems, and our current state of multiracialism in America is making things worse for white people. We're heading towards being South Africa.
It's also worth mentioning that the most racist countries in the world are in Latin America. These are also the countries with the most amount of racially mixed people. Mixing does not create group cohesion. It doesn't matter that Mestizos and Mulattos are both mixed, they still fight over territory and representation.

Maybe it is the work of tin pot demagogues.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

He didn't. He left after that footage of Reverend Wright went viral.

Most people don't care about him believing in BLT because black people are allowed to be racial. If it was a white politician who went to a Christian Identity church, their career would be over. This just shows how anti-white America is becoming.

EVERYBODY is allowed to be racial.

NICELY, most people choose not to.

There is a reason for that.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

He didn't. He left after that footage of Reverend Wright went viral.

Most people don't care about him believing in BLT because black people are allowed to be racial. If it was a white politician who went to a Christian Identity church, their career would be over. This just shows how anti-white America is becoming.

EVERYBODY is allowed to be racial.

NICELY, most people choose not to.

There is a reason for that.

What you see as anti-white? That is really acceptance that people are people no matter what their heritage. Just like it says in the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

They say immigrants are ruining the economy.

How can that be?

The economy is fine.

Makes no sense.

They say immigrants are taking American jobs.

Hello.

Unemployment is very very low.

Anybody who wants work can find it.

And after all, every conservative will tell you. If you don't think you are being paid enough for what you do, you are totally free to go out and get a better job.

All of those billionaires are heroes, right? - because they are self-made-men who were born poor and lifted themselves up by the bootstraps, right? Worked their way up from nothing, right?

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All you have to do is work hard enough and one day you'll be rich, too, right?

Immigrants are people who only want to work hard, contribute to our economy, build a good life. Just like anybody else.

And statistics show they commit crimes at a lessor rate than natural-born Americans.

BUT!

And this is a big "but."

Every demagogue needs to have a boogie-man.

Somebody to hate.

Somebody to blame. (worked for Mussolini)

Trump told you to hate immigrants, so that's what you're doing.

You're letting Trump tell you what to believe.

Do you realize how stupid that is.

He HIRES THEM.

He MARRIED ONE. (Actually TWO...) (Likes those foreign models)

Silly conservatives.

The country was BUILT by immigrants.

What kind of Americans ARE you?

From The New Colossus, on the Statue Of Liberty:

""Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" "

It’s not conservatives per se. it’s the uneducated and ignorant who are either to ignorant or able to think critically that are being manipulated by proposing foreign devils as a threat. “Look under your bed Mabel there may be a Devil, Communist, Mexican or Arab hidin thar.”.

It’s one of the oldest political tricks in the book to sway morons.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

Actually, Nationalism among Whites is growing in both America and Europe.

I think the only thing that has happened is that the internet and social media have allowed the isolated pockets of it to connect, and the sensationalism of it is being covered by the media because anything sensational sells advertising and makes profits. And, of course, Trump has capitalized on that politically.

The more the establishment forces people to accept multiracialism, the more they fight back.

I know you would like to believe that many share these views but I just don't believe that is really the case.


If that [white males increased suicide rate due to displacement by women in the work force] was the case, it would be happening for other races too.[/QUOTE]

No, other races were not conditioned from birth to believe it was their right to be king of anything. They have always known they would have a tough row in life. This phenomenon is unique to American white males.

But no, it's not just white males, it's happening for white females too.

No, it is not. White females are not experiencing a comparable rise in suicide rates.

Trump won because he was also able to get the white woman vote.

They voted with their husbands for the sake of marital harmony, and because they identify with them. The propaganda works.

So why is it illegal to have a company that only hires Whites, an apartment building that only rents to Whites, schools that only allow white students, and so on?

Because we hold dear the concept that all people are created equal and should have equal rights.

We are forced by the government to associate with non-white people. That means we don't have freedom of association.

Actually you do. You are free to associate with whomever you wish. If you wish to run a solo business and avoid working with or associating with black people, that is your choice. You could be a writer, live in an all white town, only see white people. You are not free to discriminate in hiring on the basis of race because that is not the policy of the nation. I really don't get it why you have a problem with people of different skin color. The races are so mixed it's pretty hard to tell sometimes. Many people who appear white actually have black ancestry. It is quite impossible to draw the line. Why bother? I think you are cutting yourself off from some very enlightening experiences. Your reservations could be preventing you from finding your new best friend for life. Who knows?

The fact that they can't just remove the barriers and let it be, shows that multiracialism isn't natural.

The barriers which have been removed are the ones which have been suppressing the descendants of slaves. Personally, I don't think black people in general wish you any ill will. They just want to be as free as anybody else to live a fulfilling life. I don't see how letting them do that hurts me.

According to the studies on the subject, this is the norm for most people. Even Globalists who don't believe in racial separation still prefer to be around their own kind.

The old ways die hard.

Yeah, but how many people would actually vote for a Kardashian for president? The reason Trump got the following he did is because he promised a wall.

That was only part of it. His talent is for combining enough different appeals to gather just enough support to get elected (with a the assistance of Putin.)

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Howard the Duck,

You first.

OK, What do you see as the biggest problem facing humanity?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Celticguy,

Culture / tribalism essentially the same thing.
Kaws and policy are nice but will not bring about the synergy of the melting pot. If the various tribes fail to see that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts well you never get that whole.
Melting does not mean losing anything important to you but for some they just wont see it that way. And if the dogma reinforces it, so much the harder.

Well said.

I totally agree.

We are at out best when we accept our differences and focus on what we can each contribute to the whole.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

You can call it racism, but I just see it as human tribalism. Tribes stick together. We can complain about it, or we can accept it, and make laws and policy based on it.

You know you could pick any facet of appearance to single out.

Blue-eyed people could decide to shun everybody who wasn't 'special' like them.

It would make just as much sense to me: NONE!

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Mott the Hoople,

It’s not conservatives per se. it’s the uneducated and ignorant who are either to ignorant or able to think critically that are being manipulated by proposing foreign devils as a threat. “Look under your bed Mabel there may be a Devil, Communist, Mexican or Arab hidin thar.”.

It’s one of the oldest political tricks in the book to sway morons.

Yeah, but we don't learn from history.

Our education system sucks.

Education in America has failed us. It's too exclusive. The affluent get a great education. The rest? It's hit and miss. With a LOT of missing.

 

[Celticguy]

Hello Celticguy,



Well said.

I totally agree.

We are at out best when we accept our differences and focus on what we can each contribute to the whole.

Its what made this country great to begin with.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Hello Howard the Duck,



OK, What do you see as the biggest problem facing humanity?

I can answer that multiple ways, based-upon the political, spiritual, and cultural. Probably not the threats of extraterrestrial invasion or climate change.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Howard the Duck,

I can answer that multiple ways, based-upon the political, spiritual, and cultural. Probably not the threats of extraterrestrial invasion or climate change.

Bingo with the last.

Climate Change is the biggest problem facing humanity.

Now, let's try this a different way.

Ask 100 people:

"What is the biggest problem facing humanity?"

What is the one answer that none of them will give?

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Hello Howard the Duck,



OK, What do you see as the biggest problem facing humanity?

Well that's obvious. The New York Yankees!

 

[PoliTalker]

The answer that nobody will give is:


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'Not enough humans on the planet.'

 

[Minister of Truth]

Hello Howard the Duck,



Bingo with the last.

Climate Change is the biggest problem facing humanity.

Now, let's try this a different way.

Ask 100 people:

"What is the biggest problem facing humanity?"

What is the one answer that none of them will give?

Probably not the answer you're looking for, unless you are at a DNC event or a London primary school.

 

[Minister of Truth]

The answer that nobody will give is:


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(wait for it)

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'Not enough humans on the planet.'

Leftists are always welcome to do something about that problem (and not in the manner with which they traditionally approach it).