Why do conservatives still focus on abortion as a major issue?

if mommy had killed you would you consider it murder?.....

If you think it is potential life, then masturbation is wrong.

why are lib'ruls so ignorant of reproductive biology?......some can't even tell the difference between sperm and a zygote.....
 
Your post has merit, but I think the reason why it keeps coming up runs deeper than strategy. To those who are for abortion, what is aborted is simply tissue, but to those who are against abortion, it is a baby that is aborted. With this in mind, it will be hard for for those who are for abortion to see the matter as anything more than strategy. For those who are against abortion, it is something that is too hard to let go. Obviously, this exposes those who are against abortion to being victims of strategy. The left tend to weaponize emotion for political gain, but their perception of what is actually aborted leaves abortion off the radar as far as using abortion as weaponized emotion for strategy.

They hugely prefer to condemn unwanted babies to a life of abuse, drug-taking and prison, just so they can bully women. There's lovely!
 
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you are a slow learner, Mason........how's your forum going......did you ban everyone who used naughty words?......
 
They hugely prefer to condemn unwanted babies to a life of abuse, drug-taking and prison, just so they can bully women. There's lovely!
so you think there are a million women a year who are child abusing, drug taking criminals?.......you don't think much of women, do you........
 
I am not trying to troll here, I ask this question from a strategic point of view.

Abortion has been around for more than 50 years now.

To me it's kinda like the gun debate, banning abortion, like guns, is simply not going to happen.

It's a complete losing battle. I think the numbers for supporting abortions are astronomically high.

You can be as principled as you want on a moral level, but tactically it's completely useless. It's such an outdated political topic. Very 90's.

Take solace in the fact that it's mostly liberals offing future soyboys and blue haired women.
You have to go back to the early days of the Reagan revolution. Most Republicans at that time didn’t have a lot to say on the issue but after the Roe vs. Wade decision it quickly became apparent that the GOP could attract massive numbers of evengelicals and particularly Catholics on just this issue.

Now I know what you’re thinking...even proles can’t be that stupid to vote based on a single religious issue. You’d be wrong.

For example when I joined the Mercer County Republican Party in 1982 one of the first things we did was attempt unseat our Democrat Mayor. Mercer County is rural and it’s citizens overwhelmingly farmers and agricultural workers of German Catholic heritage renowned for their reactionary views that are slightly more progressive than the Amish. They were also overwhelmingly Democrats.

So we tried all the standard GOP arguments on business, taxes, economic prosperity, strong national defense, blah blah blah. Major fail as no one cared. So then we came up with an dirty trick of an idea. We decided to try circulating a flyer that, with no truthful evidence what so ever that our Democratic Mayor was a secret member of The Way International (a famous Religious cult HQ’d in near by New Knoxville, OH that local Catholics were terrified of) and that new community clinic being built in Celina under the Mayors administration was going to be an abortion clinic. The flyer was to be followed up by an organized whisper campaign that each member of the Mercer County GOP were to whisper into the ears of at least 10 people that the Mayor was a secret member of The Way and that he was building an abortion clinic.

Now the town fathers of the Mercer County GOP derided our idea as an obvious tissue of lies with no supporting evidence and easily dismissed as the smear tactic that it was.

It was a spectacular success and the Democratic Mayor lost re-election.

The Moral of the story is if the first rule of politics is that you must first build a constituency the second rule is most of that constituency are proles who will believe any lie if it strikes to the heart of that which they fear.

That is why Abortion is an affective political football. It’s also why identity politics and guns is an affective political football. It’s just a matter of using them to manipulate people’s fears and prejudices to build a constituency.

So Grind in politics, as elsewhere, You usually can’t go wrong underestimating the average Proles intelligence.
 
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When I hear people argue about abortion my reaction is like "*sigggggh* again? what is this, fucking 1997? jesus christ"

That’s because you don’t have first hand experience in how politics work. Join your local Dem or GOP party and see first hand how practical politics work. I can assure you it’s nothing like house of cards. It’s mostly boring as hell, revolves around patronage and social climbing and has precious little to do with the better angels of our nature.
 
Partial birth abortions aren't even allowed unless in case of life of mother. 90%+ of abortions are just little balls of cells and blastocysts.

A poor prole taker single mom hoe is in no condition to raise a future money grabbing waste of air. Count your blessings.
One could observe that many politicians make a good case for retroactive abortions.
 
That’s because you don’t have first hand experience in how politics work. Join your local Dem or GOP party and see first hand how practical politics work. I can assure you it’s nothing like house of cards. It’s mostly boring as hell, revolves around patronage and social climbing and has precious little to do with the better angels of our nature.

bro, i know THAT
 
bro, i know THAT
I’m sure you do. Give it a try. You’ll find it an interesting experience and you’ll learn skills in social advancement, developing connections, leveraging patronage (the single most important thing to learn or its largely a waste of time), how to build a constituency, get out the vote strategies and a whole bunch of other things that have nothing to do with the policy crap we bicker on here about.
 
Oh just one other point about politics Grind. You probably already know this. It may not be moral but in politics human beings are a fungible commodity.
 
Leftists do not what? Be charitable? Is this the time where you haul out that bullshit about "liberals are charitable, with other people's money"? lol Conservatives can be giving folks, but in general they tend to give to their churches and the gods only know where *that* money ends up.

https://apply.surveymonkey.com/resources/partisanship-influence-charitable-giving/

Oh, I don't know. Keeping the building lit, heated, insured, supporting missionaries and ministries locally and abroad. You Leftists are totally dense when it comes to the body of Christ it's pathetic.
 
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