Why Do Trump Supporters Believe Trump's Myths?

Social Democracy is technically not Socialism, anyways.
Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy are exactly the same thing when you can't articulate any difference.

It's a Capitalist system, with strong safety nets.
You are gibbering. How does it differ from general Marxist thinking?

Besides, we've seen champion economic growth with hybrid Socialist systems.
Nope. Venezuela is not a success.

You have no examples of "hybrid successes" because you can't have a part-capitalist system that is also part-abolish-capitalism.

Japan after WW2, in the Japanese economic miracle,
... was pure capitalism.

Small doses of Socialism appear to be healthy, a lot better than strong doses of Libertarianism.
I can tell that you are proud of your ignorance. You think small doses of oppression are a lot better than strong doses of liberty. You are wise! You must be from Poland.

Many Libertarians say look there's no Communist utopia, meanwhile, there's no Libertarian utopia, either!
There most certainly is a libertarian Utopia and Jeff Bezos is living it right now. Your argument has just been thrown into the trash.



Question: Why don't Polish women use vibrators?

Answer: Vibrators chip their teeth.
 
There are people very susceptible to the typical salesman. The music man type. There have been movies about it.

There is a group that WANT desperately to believe in the stories they tell, I think it has something to do with being desperate to change their own situation and not having a strong internal structure.
 
Republicans tend to be very one track minded & have black & white all or nothing thinking patterns.
How do Republican thinking patterns differ from human thinking patterns?
Do poles overly generalize about groups of people because they know of no other way?

They can't tell the difference between the economy of Sweden & North Korea!
Yes they can. You apparently don't know anything about Republicans. Do you know anything about anything?

To them there is just a World of Republicans & Communists,
Once again, you don't know anything about Republicans.






Question: Did you hear about the predatory Polish loan shark scam?

Answer: The Polish loan shark makes a bunch of high-interest loans to elderly victims ... and then skips town.
 
Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy are exactly the same thing when you can't articulate any difference.


You are gibbering. How does it differ from general Marxist thinking?


Nope. Venezuela is not a success.

You have no examples of "hybrid successes" because you can't have a part-capitalist system that is also part-abolish-capitalism.


... was pure capitalism.


I can tell that you are proud of your ignorance. You think small doses of oppression are a lot better than strong doses of liberty. You are wise! You must be from Poland.


There most certainly is a libertarian Utopia and Jeff Bezos is living it right now. Your argument has just been thrown into the trash.



Question: Why don't Polish women use vibrators?

Answer: Vibrators chip their teeth.

How is Social Democracy different from Marxism?

Because they support freedom of enterprise, but have a lot of social programs.

Marxism gets rid of freedom of enterprise, completely, Social Democracy does not.

That's the difference, and it's a collossal difference.
 
How do Republican thinking patterns differ from human thinking patterns?
Do poles overly generalize about groups of people because they know of no other way?


Yes they can. You apparently don't know anything about Republicans. Do you know anything about anything?


Once again, you don't know anything about Republicans.






Question: Did you hear about the predatory Polish loan shark scam?

Answer: The Polish loan shark makes a bunch of high-interest loans to elderly victims ... and then skips town.

You are stereotyping about Poles, and then complain about generalizations?

LMFAO, you people (Western Europeans) are such an inferior people, I've dealt with you all my life, and know how you are, and it's lesser.

I think you are the most desperate & dumb people at both the same time.

How dumb are you people to almost always support throwing away your own culture / heritage?

No other people will tolerate that, just Western Europeans the disaster race!
 
Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy are exactly the same thing when you can't articulate any difference.


You are gibbering. How does it differ from general Marxist thinking?


Nope. Venezuela is not a success.

You have no examples of "hybrid successes" because you can't have a part-capitalist system that is also part-abolish-capitalism.


... was pure capitalism.


I can tell that you are proud of your ignorance. You think small doses of oppression are a lot better than strong doses of liberty. You are wise! You must be from Poland.


There most certainly is a libertarian Utopia and Jeff Bezos is living it right now. Your argument has just been thrown into the trash.



Question: Why don't Polish women use vibrators?

Answer: Vibrators chip their teeth.

Jeff Bezos lives in a Libertarian Utopia? The USA? The USA is so far from Libertarian it's not funny, we have a collossal welfare state almost as big as Western Europe, and military that's unmatched by the whole World.

No, Japan was hybrid Socialism post WW2!

They had government intervention into the economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_economic_miracle

Influence of governmental policies: Ikeda administration and keiretsu
In 1954, the economic system MITI had cultivated from 1949 to 1953 came into full effect. Prime Minister Hayato Ikeda, who Johnson[who?] calls "the single most important individual architect of the Japanese economic miracle," pursued a policy of heavy industrialization.[citation needed] This policy led to the emergence of 'over-loaning' (a practice that continues today) in which the Bank of Japan issues loans to city banks who in turn issue loans to industrial conglomerates. Since there was a shortage of capital in Japan at the time, industrial conglomerates borrowed beyond their capacity to repay, often beyond their net worth, causing city banks in turn to over-borrow from the Bank of Japan. This gave the national Bank of Japan complete control over dependent local banks.

The system of over-loaning, combined with the government's relaxation of anti-monopoly laws (a remnant of SCAP control) also led to the re-emergence of conglomerate groups called keiretsu that mirrored the wartime conglomerates, or zaibatsu. Led by the economic improvements of Sony businessmen Masaru Ibuka and Akio Morita, the keiretsu efficiently allocated resources and became competitive internationally.[13]

At the heart of the keiretsu conglomerates' success lay city banks, which lent generously, formalizing cross-share holdings in diverse industries. The keiretsu spurred both horizontal and vertical integration, locking out foreign companies from Japanese industries. Keiretsu had close relations with MITI and each other through the cross-placement of shares, providing protection from foreign take-overs. For example, 83% of Japan's Development Bank's finances went toward strategic industries: shipbuilding, electric power, coal and steel production.[14] Keiretsu proved crucial to protectionist measures that shielded Japan's sapling economy.

Keiretsu also fostered an attitude shift among Japanese managers that tolerated low profits in the short-run because keiretsu were less concerned with increasing stock dividends and profits and more concerned about interest payments. Approximately only two-thirds of the shares of a given company were traded, cushioning keiretsu against market fluctuations and allowing keiretsu managers to plan for the long-term and maximize market shares instead of focusing on short-term profits.

The Ikeda administration also instituted the Foreign Exchange Allocation Policy, a system of import controls designed to prevent the flooding of Japan's markets by foreign goods. MITI used the foreign exchange allocation to stimulate the economy by promoting exports, managing investment and monitoring production capacity. In 1953, MITIs revised the Foreign Exchange Allocation Policy to promote domestic industries and increase the incentive for exports by revising the export-link system. A later revision based production capacity on foreign exchange allocation to prevent foreign dumping.
 
It's amazing so many Americans pick on France our historic best ally & Poland our current best ally.
Is that what they teach people in Poland, i.e. assign a bogus position to others and then attack them for it?

I'm American. I have worked with NATO, and that includes French and Poles. I learned a lot of French from the French which I have since forgotten. I have learned a lot of Polish from poles that I have since forgotten. Poles take pride in having more profanities than anyone else, with detailed nuances in expressing profanities. I have played soccer/footbal/fútbol/calcio with many French and Polish NATO officers and I can attest to the unique Polish art of profanity nuance.

Meanwhile, you pick on them for being weak at war.
That would be the Germans/Deutsch:

Frage: Wie viele Soldaten braucht man, um Paris richtig zu verteidigen?
Question: How many soldiers does it take to properly defend Paris?

Antwort: Niemand weiß es. Niemand hat es jemals versucht.
Answer: Nobody knows. Nobody has ever tried.


We Americans work closely with all of our NATO allies and we train with them all throughout the year. You are fabricating anything beyond that.


But, actually France & Poland have the most recorded war wins & battle wins in European history.
How did Poland do against NAZI Germany? Refresh my memory. I know that war ended after only four weeks. Who won?



Latest News:
At 10:43 a.m. a Cessna 310R enroute from Berlin, Germany to Vilnius, Lithuania experienced an engine explosion shortly after crossing the Polish border, causing it to crash in a large graveyard. All aboard were killed. Polish officials on the scene have thus far recovered 3,227 bodies and that number is expected to increase before nightfall.
 
Is that what they teach people in Poland, i.e. assign a bogus position to others and then attack them for it?

I'm American. I have worked with NATO, and that includes French and Poles. I learned a lot of French from the French which I have since forgotten. I have learned a lot of Polish from poles that I have since forgotten. Poles take pride in having more profanities than anyone else, with detailed nuances in expressing profanities. I have played soccer/footbal/fútbol/calcio with many French and Polish NATO officers and I can attest to the unique Polish art of profanity nuance.


That would be the Germans/Deutsch:

Frage: Wie viele Soldaten braucht man, um Paris richtig zu verteidigen?
Question: How many soldiers does it take to properly defend Paris?

Antwort: Niemand weiß es. Niemand hat es jemals versucht.
Answer: Nobody knows. Nobody has ever tried.


We Americans work closely with all of our NATO allies and we train with them all throughout the year. You are fabricating anything beyond that.



How did Poland do against NAZI Germany? Refresh my memory. I know that war ended after only four weeks. Who won?



Latest News:
At 10:43 a.m. a Cessna 310R enroute from Berlin, Germany to Vilnius, Lithuania experienced an engine explosion shortly after crossing the Polish border, causing it to crash in a large graveyard. All aboard were killed. Polish officials on the scene have thus far recovered 3,227 bodies and that number is expected to increase before nightfall.

Name 1 war Poland lost when it wasn't outnumbered & name 1 war the USA won when outnumbered?

Poland did very well in the Polish Soviet war in 1920, with such embarassing defeats for Soviets, as the Battle of Komarow in 1920, when 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviet forces.

As for when Nazi Germany, Soviets & Slovakia invaded Poland in September of 1939, Poland was vastly outnumbered.... Germany had about 85 million ethnic Germans within it's border at the time & Poland only had about 25 million ethnic Poles in it's borders in 1939.

Besides, Soviets had supplied Nazis with vast resources, as did Sweden & Romania, without that Germans would'nt have been able to do that much.

I'm not from Poland, I'm not even fully Polish, but identify mostly as Polish.

My Polish grandmother's ancestors came around WW1, and my Polish grandfather's ancestors came just as the American Civil War.

My Irish grandfather was born in Ireland, and my Irish grandmother's side came over during the Irish Potato famine.
 
Jeff Bezos lives in a Libertarian Utopia? The USA?
Yes. Please remember that you are the one who doesn't know anything about Libertarians.

The USA is so far from Libertarian it's not funny,
Yes and No. Your statement as written is meaningless. You would do well to learn about what you purport to write.

we have a collossal welfare state almost as big as Western Europe,
Yes. Explain how that affects Bezos.

No, Japan was hybrid Socialism post WW2!
Nope. Japan did nothing to stamp out capitalism. I take it you don't know what you are talking about.

They had government intervention into the economy.
Guess who doesn't know what socialism is.

Don't bother citing Wikipeida. It's awash in errors. Wikipedia is summarily dismissed.



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Two Polish truck drivers are driving along when they come up to an overpass. The sign says, "Clearance: 11'3".
The poles get out, measure and notice that their truck is 11'7".
One pole looks at the other and says "I don't see any cops around....let's go for it!"
 
Yes. Please remember that you are the one who doesn't know anything about Libertarians.


Yes and No. Your statement as written is meaningless. You would do well to learn about what you purport to write.


Yes. Explain how that affects Bezos.


Nope. Japan did nothing to stamp out capitalism. I take it you don't know what you are talking about.


Guess who doesn't know what socialism is.

Don't bother citing Wikipeida. It's awash in errors. Wikipedia is summarily dismissed.



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Two Polish truck drivers are driving along when they come up to an overpass. The sign says, "Clearance: 11'3".
The poles get out, measure and notice that their truck is 11'7".
One pole looks at the other and says "I don't see any cops around....let's go for it!"

True Libertarians are against a welfare state, and are for a very limited military, they support extreme deregulation too, so basically they can do what they want without a minimum wage, or environemtnal protection laws.

The USA isn't Libertarian, while about 611 billion were spent by the USA budget in 2017, while the World spent about 1.6 trillion.

So, while the USA accounted for just over 4% of the World's population, the USA spent just short of 40% of the enitre World's budget.
 
IBDaMann called me a Socialist. When I said I'm a Social Democrat, he insisted it's the same thing. Just another example of Righties using "Socialism" to dismiss anything that helps the workers.
How does the socialism/social democrat equivalence dismiss anything helpful to workers?

By the way, how does your social democracy help Bill Gates? He's a worker. [hint: your contorted answer is going to show that your social democracy is just socialism. I just wanted to give you a heads-up as to what we'll be covering in my next post]
 
Because they support freedom of enterprise, but have a lot of social programs.
Nope. Your empty "freedom of enterprise" buzzword is meaningless.

Is there central planning involving social programs that must be obeyed? (answer: Yes)

That's socialism.

Marxism gets rid of freedom of enterprise, completely,
No, it does not. All that is required of socialism is sufficient central planning to successfully make the transition to communism.







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A medical science researcher for fertility drugs realizes that the only way he can get the data he needs is to have men have sex with his female gorilla.
After building a website to advertise his project, the researcher makes the public announcement "Men Wanted: Sex with Gorilla - $350"
The next day a pole shows up looking rather sheepish saying "I'm here about the ad. Nobody's going to find out about this, right?"
The researcher assures him that everything is governed by HIPPA and will be forever confidential.
Reassured, the pole enters the room with the gorilla and does his business. The researcher is very pleased.
The pole then turns to the researcher and says "Oh, about the $350 ... do you take credit cards?"
 
You have to remember that socialism is mostly a caucasian thing.

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Sort of, sort of not.

The third-World are often also mischaracterized as "Socialist" where I don't really agree that much.

I see the third-World as Crony-Libertarianism, if that's even a term, it should be.

The third-World is mostly Libertarian in the sense of lack of social programs & lack of military, lack of money spent on education, and lack of money spent on police.

On the other hand, the system turns out incredibly corrupt because of the way they are, so it's small governnent that's corrupt & looks for favors & seeks for number 1 the government, the police, bribes, red tape, etc. etc

But, they are largely Collectivist, and tribal.

I don't really see White people as the most Socialist, I think that title goes to Eastern Asians.

But, I do think excluding the Anglosphere, that White people are the 2nd most Socialist race, behind East Asians.
 
Nope. Your empty "freedom of enterprise" buzzword is meaningless.

Is there central planning involving social programs that must be obeyed? (answer: Yes)

That's socialism.


No, it does not. All that is required of socialism is sufficient central planning to successfully make the transition to communism.







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A medical science researcher for fertility drugs realizes that the only way he can get the data he needs is to have men have sex with his female gorilla.
After building a website to advertise his project, the researcher makes the public announcement "Men Wanted: Sex with Gorilla - $350"
The next day a pole shows up looking rather sheepish saying "I'm here about the ad. Nobody's going to find out about this, right?"
The researcher assures him that everything is governed by HIPPA and will be forever confidential.
Reassured, the pole enters the room with the gorilla and does his business. The researcher is very pleased.
The pole then turns to the researcher and says "Oh, about the $350 ... do you take credit cards?"

I find it's people of British descent who are typically the most dumb White people, if you ask me.

Look at how much you people don't follow the definitions, Liberalism is for Capitalist freedom, rights & Democracy, The first Leftists were for Capitalism & Democracy in the French Revolution too.

As for Socialism, you people botch that too, Socialism is actually means of control & distribution by the people.

State Capitalism is the correct term, sort of.

But, then again the government is sort of by the people in the sense they're elected.

So, if you want to talk about Socialism, in the way of government control & distrubion over the production.

Then interference of the free market by having state run production & interference, is more akin, not much if anything to do with social programs.

Japan was somewhat Socialist in the sense during the #1 economy in 20th century history, that it had government step in to break up Monopolies, it had some state run Corporations, it had government issue loans to businesses.

That's all more akin to Socialism, than social programs are, really.
 
True Libertarians are against a welfare state,
Fallacy. Libertarians determine Libertarianism, not you. You do not get to define "true" libertarians.

It is true that Libertarians are against the government forcibly redistributing wealth, but Libertarians represent a very wide range of what the State can do.

You do understand the difference between the government and the State, don't you?

... and are for a very limited military,
... for a limited government military. Many on one end of the spectrum are for unlimited personal militaries, for example.



... they support extreme deregulation too,
Injecting your opinion does not make it correct. Libertarians simply oppose government regulation. They typically support every minor and major deregulation because they oppose most regulation in the first place.


So, while the USA accounted for just over 4% of the World's population, the USA spent just short of 40% of the enitre World's budget.
You obviously think this statement carries significance. What do you believe that significance is? If you are trying to argue that the US has the highest per-capita "importance," i.e. importance per person then maybe your statement means something. Unfortunately I don't believe you have any sort of point that you are trying to make.

Can you help me understand?








Question: What is the next step once a pole throws a pin at you?

Answer: Dive for cover. He has a live hand grenade between his teeth.









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Yes. Please remember that you are the one who doesn't know anything about Libertarians.


Yes and No. Your statement as written is meaningless. You would do well to learn about what you purport to write.


Yes. Explain how that affects Bezos.


Nope. Japan did nothing to stamp out capitalism. I take it you don't know what you are talking about.


Guess who doesn't know what socialism is.

Don't bother citing Wikipeida. It's awash in errors. Wikipedia is summarily dismissed.



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Two Polish truck drivers are driving along when they come up to an overpass. The sign says, "Clearance: 11'3".
The poles get out, measure and notice that their truck is 11'7".
One pole looks at the other and says "I don't see any cops around....let's go for it!"

Hybrid Socialism doesn't completely stamp out Capitalism.

Stamping out free market Capitalism completely is akin to Communist State Capitalism.

Having a totally free market vs a total state run market.

The intermediate is Hybrid-Socialism, where government intervenes into the free market.

This includes Japan after WW2, FDR, National Socialist Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain, and others too.
 
They believe because He doesn't call it a Myth.

He calls out fake news that is meant to be subtle-sense gratification stimulation ---like it is.

Some one is making up the myths.

The myths are what fairy dust is made of.

DYK There is no such place as Oz?
 
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