Why homosexuality should be banned

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WinterBorn said:
SM, you are avoiding a question I have asked several times.

If we are banning gay marriage based on sodomy, do we stop allowing straight couple who have oral sex the right to marry?

If that is the basis of your objections, then every man who has ever gotten a blowjob from his wife, or every man who has ever gone down on his wife should have their marriage annuled?
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Could you repeat that last sentence; but this time talk really slooooooooooooow?:cof1:
 
Southern Man said:
The NT was a new Covenant; it didn't toss out morality.

That's not my argument. Sex is also for love and intimacy between a man and his wife.
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So could it not also be for love and intimacy between two men or two women? Sex outside of marriage is currently legal and the VAST MAJORITY of people partake it at some point in life and that hasn't destroyed society.
 
Southern Man said:
The NT was a new Covenant; it didn't toss out morality.

That's not my argument. Sex is also for love and intimacy between a man and his wife.
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In your "its unnatural" argument, you claimed it was for procreation. No one is arguing that it is for love and intimacy (except you). We just do not understand why the intimacy between two men or between two women is not the same love that is between a man and a woman.

I don't find gay sex appealing at all. But my squeamishness is not a basis for banning their marriage.
 
Southern Man said:
The NT was a new Covenant; it didn't toss out morality.

That's not my argument. Sex is also for love and intimacy between a man and his wife.
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You're entitled to you opininion, no matter how wrong it is.

Sex is what grows out of love and intimacy; period.

Where does the New Covenant condemn sodomy or homosexuality??
 
Southern Man said:
It's perfectly natural for men to theorize about their beginnings and their endings in philosophical ways. I can't think of a major civilization where this has not occurred, and many of these have rationalized these unknowns to be due to a all powerful being.
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The "normal course of nature" has nothing in it about theorizing, and if you include such things, then it is well within the "normal course of nature for man to sometimes experiment with sex" and your argument falls on its face. You want to stretch it to fit whatever you want, you are irrational and now attempting to argue the supernatural is "natural".

The supernatural is exactly what it means, "above and beyond the natural", and that is what your God (and my god) is, definitely not "natural".

You keep trying to move the target, it is why I asked for which definition you wanted to use.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
What is truly "natural", is that the strongest of a specis mate with an many females they can remain in control of.
Monogomy is actually un-natural, in most species.
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We'll get there, if he wants to continue that line of reasoning. Marriage itself is often unnatural for many species, humans are among them. It is why such a large percentage of spouses admit to cheating, men particularly are driven to mate with more than one woman. However, doing the unnatural is almost always an aim of Man (as a species), and it is often what is most "holy", however that does mean the government should not have a hand in making such decisions at all. It should be limited to contractual obligations, not the "sanctity" or "traditionality" of a marriage. The government has no place in marriage, only in protecting your right to define it as you will and follow the religion you most agree with into that particular path.
 
Damocles said:
We'll get there, if he wants to continue that line of reasoning. Marriage itself is often unnatural for many species, humans are among them. It is why such a large percentage of spouses admit to cheating, men particularly are driven to mate with more than one woman. However, doing the unnatural is almost always an aim of Man (as a species), and it is often what is most "holy", however that does mean the government should not have a hand in making such decisions at all. It should be limited to contractual obligations, not the "sanctity" or "traditionality" of a marriage.
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The only power that a Marriage gives anyone, is regarding inheritance.
But then, sometime a will even throws that under the bus.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You're entitled to you opininion, no matter how wrong it is.

Sex is what grows out of love and intimacy; period.

Where does the New Covenant condemn sodomy or homosexuality??
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In my opinion your opinion of my opinion is wrong. :p

Again, Jesus didn't have to re-hash the entire OT.
 
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