Why homosexuality should be banned

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Southern Man said:
Awesome strawman! :good4u:
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It isn't a strawman, you made it clear that the only time you think of "that" is because Jeebus told you it was bad.

Don't be disingenuous and try to spin out of such a direct statement, it is one of the more truthful ones that I have seen.

And it is still, and will always be, not enough to "ban" anything or for government to take over the religious institution of marriage to "save" it from those icky sinful gay people.

Just so reasonable people can see what I am talking about.. (the bolding is mine, to highlight the salient portion)

Southern Man said:
As a devout Christian, the only time I talk about "it" is to respond to the lies from the sin's enablers.

Now about that evidence of a gay gene that you promised....
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The only time you even think about it is so you can teach people all about how the God you worship doesn't like it...
 
Southern Man said:
Actually, only heterosexual sex followed by reproduction has been shown to be the ordinary course of nature.
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That is simply a lie. Did you bother to go to the link I provided? NatGeo researchers have documented plenty of homosexual behavior in nature. And it is ordinary. No one is saying that it is the only sex documented or even that it is the predominate sexual activity. But your statement above is a lie.
 
Once y'all are ready to admit the lie that its natural we can move to a second argument. Y'all seem to be interested in gay marriage so is that what we are to discuss next?
 
Southern Man said:
Yet the quote that you attributed to me says the exact opposite.
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It does not, and I didn't "attribute" it to you, I simply quoted your own statement. I even reposted it, with bolding on the important bits.

Southern Man said:
As a devout Christian, the only time I talk about "it" is to respond to the lies from the sin's enablers.

Now about that evidence of a gay gene that you promised....
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Again, the only time you ever talk about it is related to your religion and how it is "sinful" (read: icky as you don't insist other sinful activity be banned).

You won't spin away from this one, it is what you directly stated.
 
Southern Man said:
Once y'all are ready to admit the lie that its natural we can move to a second argument. Y'all seem to be interested in gay marriage so is that what we are to discuss next?
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:rolleyes:

In the normal course of nature, there is a certain percentage of animals, including humans, that participate in homosexuality. It is "natural" even by the definition you tried to cherry pick, I gave you the opportunity to come up with one that would make the argument difficult. You couldn't even do that.
 
Damocles said:
...Again, the only time you ever talk about it is related to your religion and how it is "sinful" (read: icky as you don't insist other sinful activity be banned).

You won't spin away from this one, it is what you directly stated.
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You seem to have changed your argument. Earlier you said this:

Damocles said:
...you made it clear that the only time you think of "that" is because Jeebus told you it was bad...
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Then claimed that this proved it:

Southern Man said:
As a devout Christian, the only time I talk about "it" is to respond to the lies from the sin's enablers...
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Making zero sense.
 
Southern Man said:
Once y'all are ready to admit the lie that its natural we can move to a second argument. Y'all seem to be interested in gay marriage so is that what we are to discuss next?
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There has been plenty of evidence that proves that it is not unnatural. If you would like to concede that being natural or unnatural has no real meaning as a basis for the marriage laws, we can move on to your next objection.
 
Damocles said:
:rolleyes:

In the normal course of nature, there is a certain percentage of animals, including humans, that participate in homosexuality. It is "natural" even by the definition you tried to cherry pick, I gave you the opportunity to come up with one that would make the argument difficult. You couldn't even do that.
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Again, the normal course of nature is for procreation to occur as a result of sex. Sodomy is a diversion, and animals existing for survival don't have time, energy or opportunity for diversions.
 
Southern Man said:
Again, the normal course of nature is for procreation to occur as a result of sex. Sodomy is a diversion, and animals existing for survival don't have time, energy or opportunity for diversions.
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You are beyond help. The research has shown that many animals do have sex for reasons other than procreation.

And if you are going to use that as a standard, will we punish humans who have sex for reasons other than procreation?

You have already spoken against oral sex, anal sex, and now making claims that only sex for procreation is "natural".

Should we not allow married couples the use of birth control? After all, only sex for procreation is "natural".
 
Southern Man said:
Again, the normal course of nature is for procreation to occur as a result of sex. Sodomy is a diversion, and animals existing for survival don't have time, energy or opportunity for diversions.
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The bold faced is an absolute lie.
 
Southern Man said:
You seem to have changed your argument. Earlier you said this:



Then claimed that this proved it:



Making zero sense.
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Inane. You make no sense at all. You take my statement out of context because when it is in context the point cannot be refuted.

Your argument IS solely due to your religion, you stated so. And it is still not a good enough reason for the government to act in any fashion.
 
Damocles said:
Inane. Your make no sense at all.

Your argument IS solely due to your religion, you stated so.
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I think his goal is to continue to argue in an irrational manner and hope we quit.

I notice he has stopped responding to me. I guess he has no way to refute what I have said. And you pegged him so well he has resorted to babbling to avoid admitting being wrong.


SM, you have been soundly thrashed on this topic. :pke:
 
Damocles said:
Inane. You make no sense at all. You take my statement out of context because when it is in context the point cannot be refuted.

Your argument IS solely due to your religion, you stated so. And it is still not a good enough reason for the government to act in any fashion.
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You seem to refuse to stick to the "nature" argument. May I suggest that we move on to the next one: queer marriage?
 
Southern Man said:
You seem to refuse to stick to the "nature" argument. May I suggest that we move on to the next one: queer marriage?
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You were asked at the beginning of this thread to state your reasons you think gay marriage should remain illegal. You picked "unnatural".


If you have good, constitutional reasons for gay marriage to remain illegal, then state them.

But....

#1 - Unnatural has been refuted.
#2 - Christianity's views cannot be the basis for laws.
 
Southern Man said:
You seem to refuse to stick to the "nature" argument. May I suggest that we move on to the next one: queer marriage?
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That is because you brought up your religion. You seem incapable of owning what you have said. There is nothing "natural" about religion.
 
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