Why homosexuality should be banned

[DamnYankee]

How is it degrading society??

By denigrating its backbone: traditional marriage.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

First, I don't believe it is a minority in the US. Second, a minority fought for independence from a King, and won. Third, popularity of a position doesn't make it right.

Thanks for admitting that your position could be wrong.

 

[MOe]

By denigrating its backbone: traditional marriage.

sm, just like majorities aren't always right, traditions aren't always right either.

 

[DamnYankee]

Now you've decided to become insultive; but equal means the right to do equal things.
Not just how equality is defined by a narrow vision.

No insult intended; I simply commented on the approach of your argument.

 

[/MSG/]

First, I don't believe it is a minority in the US. Second, a minority fought for independence from a King, and won. Third, popularity of a position doesn't make it right.

So by virtue of your points you can admit that perhaps your side is wrong?

 

[DamnYankee]

Thanks for admitting that your position could be wrong.

It could be, but it ain't.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You mistake resolve for fear, nor is it only breeders with this position. No lie, but a defining issue for true Conservatism.

Maybe in the narrow group you associate with; but not as great as you believe it is.

 

[DamnYankee]

sm, just like majorities aren't always right, traditions aren't always right either.

Except this one has been refined thought the centuries and proven its worth.

 

[WinterBorn]

Because traditional marriage is the backbone of the family unit as far back as biblical times, refined to one man and one woman through centuries of trial and error. The union of one man and one woman has always met the traditional definition but queer marriage has never met it. Queer marriage is a massive step backwards and sideways.

This is such a bullshit claim.

If gay marriages are allowed, do you think there will be fewer straight marriages? Do you think there will be more gay relationships?

The answer to both questions is "No". So if straight marriages are the backbone of civilization (and I think our social structures have changed, but that is another topic) then they will still be the backbone of civilization. Having additional marriages that are different does not change that one iota. And gay marriages will not change the straight marriages one iota.

So the entire claim is nonsense.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

By denigrating its backbone: traditional marriage.

Traditional marriage defined by whom, or by what organization??

 

[WinterBorn]

Again, it affects the institution.

Bullshit! It adds another dimension to the institution of marriage, but it does not take anything away from marriage.

 

[DamnYankee]

Maybe in the narrow group you associate with; but not as great as you believe it is.

True conservatives on every issue are a small group. So were the Founders, and they influenced many.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

It could be, but it ain't.

It is and it is.

 

[DamnYankee]

Bullshit! It adds another dimension to the institution of marriage, but it does not take anything away from marriage.

Add it to your marriage and report back to me.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Except this one has been refined thought the centuries and proven its worth.

You mean like slavery and not allowing inter-racial marriages?

 

[WinterBorn]

What part of "refined" is hard for you to understand?

I'd say the sex of the partners is a big damn deal.

And I would say its none of your damn business and that it doesn't effect you.

 

[DamnYankee]

Traditional marriage defined by whom, or by what organization??

Each State has its own definition.

That brings up a good point. If enablers in Massachusetts want queers to marry, I don't have a problem with that. Just don't expect the rest of the States to recognize it. "Don't Tread on Me."

 

[WinterBorn]

That they can. But if they can do all this what value does the 'institution' of marriage provide, if all the 'benefits' exist outside the institution as well.

Tax benefits do not exist outside the institution of marriage. Joint adoption of children does not exist outside the institution of marriage.

 

[DamnYankee]

Sol's getting hissy, as predicted.

 

[DamnYankee]

You mean like slavery and not allowing inter-racial marriages?

Exactly. Those institutions have been refined out.