Why homosexuality should be banned

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Southern Man said:
I don't see it that way. Perhaps you could try to explain why you think that way. Again I believe that "all men are created equal."
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Because all you have to do is replace your usage of gays, with black and it sounds exactly the same as the same old tired arguments that they tried to use.

The problem is you have shown that you think some are more "equal" and then have more rights then others.
 
SM, I still challenge you to tell us how allowing gay marriage will change straight marriages.

And these vague references to it changing the entire institution is just a dodge.

Tell us how it will change YOUR marriage.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Because all you have to do is replace your usage of gays, with black and it sounds exactly the same as the same old tired arguments that they tried to use.

The problem is you have shown that you think some are more "equal" and then have more rights then others.
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Give me a specific example.
 
WinterBorn said:
SM, I still challenge you to tell us how allowing gay marriage will change straight marriages.

And these vague references to it changing the entire institution is just a dodge.

Tell us how it will change YOUR marriage.
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Again, try it and see how it affects your marriage. :pke:
 
Southern Man said:
Marriage and adoption aren't rights. And rights can be taken away based on choices that you make.
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Amendment 9 and 10 could be used to challenge the first assertion and as for the second they may only be taken away by due process of law as per the fourth amendment.
 
Southern Man said:
Marriage and adoption aren't rights. And rights can be taken away based on choices that you make.
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But the benefits offered to couples by the federal gov't cannot be unequal or prejudiced.

The benefits given by the gov't to one set of couples must be the same as those to another set of couples.


And to those who insist, swear, and are absolutely sure that they have been gay since birth, you say tough luck?? lol
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Amendment 9 and 10 could be used to challenge the first assertion and as for the second they may only be taken away by due process of law as per the fourth amendment.
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Marriage and adoption are not Federal issues; they are both regulated by the States. So again, I have no problem with queer marriage in Massachusetts. I chose to move out of that shit-hole as soon as I could.
 
Southern Man said:
Again, try it and see how it affects your marriage. :pke:
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YOu keep saying that as if it is an answer.

I am not suggesting you have sex with a man. I am asking how allowing two men to marry will effect YOUR marriage.

I do not believe it will effect my one tiny bit. But you certainly seem to think it will effect straight marriages.

You have argued that marriage is the backbone of civilization and it should be protected. I am challenging you to tell us how allowing gays to marry will effect your marriage or any other marriage.
 
Southern Man said:
Marriage and adoption aren't rights. And rights can be taken away based on choices that you make.
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wrong, rights can only be taken away by choices you make that harm others.

additionally i would like to say that there if there is no basis for the opinion that things would be better if gay marriage were allowed, there is also no basis for the opinion that things would be worse if gay marriage were allowed.
 
Southern Man said:
Each State has its own definition.

That brings up a good point. If enablers in Massachusetts want queers to marry, I don't have a problem with that. Just don't expect the rest of the States to recognize it. "Don't Tread on Me."
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This is EXACTLY the argument made by Virginia in Loving v. Virginia. They said it was fine if Maryland wanted to allow interracial couples to marry so long as Virginia didn't have to recognize it. They didn't want anyone "muddying" the racial lines and you don't want anyone blurring the gender lines. Same logic just different prejudices
 
Southern Man said:
Again, try it and see how it affects your marriage. :pke:
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This is the single stupidest reply of the thread. He is not saying HE wants to marry a man you dolt. And my definition of marriage is broad enough to allow for men to marry men or women to marry women. The fact that I have two friends who are men that got married in California does not in the least affect my marriage. My wife and I are just as married as we ever were and no amount of gay marriage changes that. Your problem is you continue to stare only at the shadows on the cave wall cast by the fire behind you and draw scary conclusions from the shadows, rather than staring directly at what casts the shadows and seeing them for what they really are.
 
Southern Man said:
Again, try it and see how it affects your marriage. :pke:
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LOL This does nothing except prove the point I have made time and again, only YOU or your wife can effect the sanctity or institution of your marriage. Paying so much attention to what others do is a waste of life, it's too short to deal with making laws to follow your religious definition and traditions.

No matter how much you don't like it somebody else's marriage does nothing to the institution of your marriage or the sanctity of the same. In order for gay marriage to effect me, I'd have to participate. Thanks for dumping your own argument on the carpet like an incontinent dog.
 
Damocles said:
LOL This does nothing except prove the point I have made time and again, only YOU or your wife can effect the sanctity or institution of your marriage. Paying so much attention to what others do is a waste of life, it's too short to deal with making laws to follow your religious definition and traditions.

No matter how much you don't like it somebody else's marriage does nothing to the institution of your marriage or the sanctity of the same. In order for gay marriage to effect me, I'd have to participate. Thanks for dumping your own argument on the carpet like an incontinent dog.
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:rofl:

Now THAT is being pwnd, SM. In case you were wondering.
 
Damocles said:
In what way?
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Changing the definition of marriage would undermine the very nature that gives marriage its unique status in society. Ultimately, forcing marriage to mean all things will force marriage to mean nothing at all. If marriage becomes just one form of commitment in a spectrum of sexual relationships rather than a preferred monogamous relationship for the sake of children, the line separating sexual relations within and outside of marriage becomes blurred, and so does the public policy argument against out-of-wedlock births or in favor of abstinence.

Decisions about sex, marriage, and childbearing are not merely personal. They have deep social consequences, particularly for children.

Social Costs
Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, France, Luxembourg, Hungary, and Iceland have all granted some form of legal recognition to same-sex couples. Same-sex "marriage" has been legal in the Netherlands since 2001, in Belgium since 2003, and in Canada and Spain since 2005.

The most extensive research we have about the effect of same-sex "marriage" on society comes from the Netherlands.

The Netherlands has seen significant changes since the 1980s in its unwed birth rate. Dutch social scientists have observed a correlation between the campagin for same-sex "marriage" and the increasing disconnect between parenting and marriage.

In an interview published in a Dutch newspaper on July 8, 2004, Dr. J.van Loon, a leading sociologist of Nottingham Trent University said, “It’s no coincidence both [the introduction of same-sex marriage and the devaluation of marriage] take place at the same time. Supporters of gay marriage often based their argument…on the separation of marriage and the raising of children. It’s difficult to imagine that an intensive media campaign based on the claim that marriage and parenthood are unrelated and that marriage is just one among a number of morally equivalent cohabiting relationships did not have any serious social consequences.”
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http://www.heritage.org/Research/Family/MarriageDebate/ConsequencesMD.cfm
 
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