Why homosexuality should be banned

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USFREEDOM911 said:
I didn't realize you were so unaware of the things you've typed.
I'll start with the one, to begin with.
The right to marry who they wish.
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No reason to get hissy. You still haven't given me examples of my speech where you can substitute "gay" for "black" as you claim.

And again, marriage is a privilege for those who have made certain choices. Your attempts to equate this with violation of rights due to racism are completely baseless.
 
WinterBorn said:
The people you are arguing with have asked for specifics from you this entire debate.

Give us specific examples of how gay marriage will harm your marriage.
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Your argument falls flat because it attempts to put me on the defensive from the actions of a group. That is why I earlier turned this around back to you with an attack on you due to the actions of you (get gay with your neighbor and see what it does to your marriage). Both arguments are bullshit, but your is more bullshit than mine.

Your question should be: "Give us specific examples of how gay marriage will harm traditional marriage." I have given several. Post 340 is the most recent example.
 
Southern Man said:
Your argument falls flat because it attempts to put me on the defensive from the actions of a group. That is why I earlier turned this around back to you with an attack on you due to the actions of you (get gay with your neighbor and see what it does to your marriage). Both arguments are bullshit, but your is more bullshit than mine.

Your question should be: "Give us specific examples of how gay marriage will harm traditional marriage." I have given several. Post 340 is the most recent example.
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And post 340 ranks as some of the deepest bullshit you have thrown out.

My questions concerning how it will effect your marriage are valid. You do not want to answer because it is obvious that it will have no effect on your marriage. So you try and throw it back as if my going and "getting gay" with my neighbor has anything to do with gay marriage.

If two gay men get married, there will be absolutely no effect on your marriage or mine. The fact that people start to be bad parents or are unfaithful to their spouse is their responsibility. To try and blame that on the fact that someone else got married is simply bullshit.

The study you quote bases its entire premise on the fact that things happened in the same basic time period. There is no solid connection made. In fact, the Netherlands study shows an increase in children born out of wedlock since the early 80s. Well no shit sherlock. The same things has happened in this country.

The entire idea that you can blame your morality and choices on what someone else does is just sad.





So far you have been shot down on the "its unnatural" argument, the "sodomy is bad" argument, and your argument about the effects of gay marriage on straight marriages is laughable.
 
WinterBorn said:
And post 340 ranks as some of the deepest bullshit you have thrown out....
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Not all all. In fact it's scientific evidence.

Solitary, if you want Alabama to have gay marriage, why don't you run down to the State legislature and ask them to do it for you?
 
SM, your argument about 'go get gay with your neighbors and see how that affects your marriage' is flawed. Tt is the exact same thing if I went and had sex with another man as it would be if I went and had sex with a playboy playmate in my wifes eyes; adultery, which already happens often enough between straight couples, and is currently illegal in most states (might be all but I don't know).
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
SM, your argument about 'go get gay with your neighbors and see how that affects your marriage' is flawed. Tt is the exact same thing if I went and had sex with another man as it would be if I went and had sex with a playboy playmate in my wifes eyes; adultery, which already happens often enough between straight couples, and is currently illegal in most states (might be all but I don't know).
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Please read post 346, my brutha.
 
Southern Man said:
Please read post 346, my brutha.
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So you retract the argument and say it's invalid? Good, then I can move on to how your 'science'.

The Dutch study is flawed as our country, which does not allow same sex marriages, has also seen a rise in children being born out of wedlock.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
So you retract the argument and say it's invalid? Good, then I can move on to how your 'science'.

The Dutch study is flawed as our country, which does not allow same sex marriages, has also seen a rise in children being born out of wedlock.
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I never said that argument was valid. I used it to demonstrate the absurdity of another argument.

The fact that there are other factors denigrating marriage doesn't make the Dutch study flawed. Why don't you wait to see what happens in Massachusetts before insisting that gays get married in your State?
 
Southern Man said:
I never said that argument was valid. I used it to demonstrate the absurdity of another argument.

The fact that there are other factors denigrating marriage doesn't make the Dutch study flawed. Why don't you wait to see what happens in Massachusetts before insisting that gays get married in your State?
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The entire premise that allowing two people (of the same or different gender) to marry will effect your marriage or my marriage is ridiculous.

This is as bad as the liberals allowing people to shirk responsibility for their own action. You and your wife are responsible for your marriage. No one else. Allowing gays to marry will not change that one bit.
 
Southern Man said:
Not all all. In fact it's scientific evidence.
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Scientific evidence? That is ridiculous.

It is saying that two things happened during the same time period, so they must be related.

If ever there was a case of Cum hoc ergo propter hoc, that entire argument would fit the bill. For one so fond of quoting those logical fallacies, you certainly base your arguments on them.
 
WinterBorn said:
The entire premise that allowing two people (of the same or different gender) to marry will effect your marriage or my marriage is ridiculous.

This is as bad as the liberals allowing people to shirk responsibility for their own action. You and your wife are responsible for your marriage. No one else. Allowing gays to marry will not change that one bit.
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Unlike liberals, only concerned for themselves, I am concerned with society as a whole. Gay marriage denigrates traditional marriage, which denigrates children.

Don't you care about your State's children?
 
WinterBorn said:
Scientific evidence? That is ridiculous.

It is saying that two things happened during the same time period, so they must be related.

If ever there was a case of Cum hoc ergo propter hoc, that entire argument would fit the bill. For one so fond of quoting those logical fallacies, you certainly base your arguments on them.
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You're commenting on the summary only. The study presents a case of cause and effect.

I was wondering when you'd repeat your quotations of logical fallacies and try to use them in debate, like you used to do as Solitary, now as Winterborn. :good4u:
 
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