Why homosexuality should be banned

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WinterBorn said:
What difference does it make?

No one is changing your marriage at all. It won't change anything in your life.
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why do we keep having to go over this again and again.....I answered this a page ago, and two pages ago, and three pages ago....

you seem to be fixated on the thought that I can only be affected if my marriage is changed.....you ignore everything else I say and keep coming back to that single question.....why is it?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why do we keep having to go over this again and again.....I answered this a page ago, and two pages ago, and three pages ago....

you seem to be fixated on the thought that I can only be affected if my marriage is changed.....you ignore everything else I say and keep coming back to that single question.....why is it?......
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Because your answer is always that somehow knowing that gays are marrying is so bad. Or that you will somehow be forced to accept something.

No one forces you to accept anything and your marriage won't be effected.
 
their fucking church told them it denegrates marriage.
The same fuckers that don't mind denagrating alter boys asses.
Go figure.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
why do we keep having to go over this again and again.....I answered this a page ago, and two pages ago, and three pages ago....

you seem to be fixated on the thought that I can only be affected if my marriage is changed.....you ignore everything else I say and keep coming back to that single question.....why is it?......
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The other stuff you have said has seemed centered on stopping this regardless of whether it is a good idea or not. And I believe I have addressed every point you have raised.
 
WinterBorn said:
Or that you will somehow be forced to accept something.

No one forces you to accept anything
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you know this isn't true....we've covered it many times......the left seeks to require the government to treat gay relationships as the equivalent of marriage.....why do you deny that "require" means "require"?......
 
WinterBorn said:
The other stuff you have said has seemed centered on stopping this regardless of whether it is a good idea or not. And I believe I have addressed every point you have raised.
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ignoring what I say isn't "addressing".....you simply pretend it hasn't been answered....our latest exchange is an example.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you know this isn't true....we've covered it many times......the left seeks to require the government to treat gay relationships as the equivalent of marriage.....why do you deny that "require" means "require"?......
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Yes, they seek to require the gov't to treat gay relationships the same way they treat straight relationships. And, in turn, businesses will be required to do the same.

But I still do not think it will force you to accept anything. Do you accept the marriage vows of a straight couple if the marriage was performed in a satanic ritual? Or a pagan ritual? Do you accept a straight couple's marriage if it is an arranged marriage and neither wants to be married?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
ignoring what I say isn't "addressing".....you simply pretend it hasn't been answered....our latest exchange is an example.....
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No more so than you have done. You have continually asked the same question because you do not accept the answers I have given.
 
WinterBorn said:
Yes, they seek to require the gov't to treat gay relationships the same way they treat straight relationships. And, in turn, businesses will be required to do the same.

But I still do not think it will force you to accept anything. Do you accept the marriage vows of a straight couple if the marriage was performed in a satanic ritual? Or a pagan ritual? Do you accept a straight couple's marriage if it is an arranged marriage and neither wants to be married?
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I don't get it....how can you in the same post say they want to require something from us and then say you don't think it will force us.....what is your definition of "require"....what is your definition of "force"?.......and why the fuck bring Satanic rituals and forced marriages into the debate?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I don't get it....how can you in the same post say they want to require something from us and then say you don't think it will force us.....what is your definition of "require"....what is your definition of "force"?.......and why the fuck bring Satanic rituals and forced marriages into the debate?.....
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I brought them into it because I am betting you do not respect or accept those either. But the fact that they happen does not effect you.

I am saying that the gov't allowing gay marriages, and giving them the benefits straights enjoy, and businesses doing the same, will not effect you. No one is requiring you to accept anything. I am betting that, at work, you have no idea which employees have spouses on their insurance and which do not. And if you do, its because you had personal conversations with them about it. Not because their having insurance or not having it effects you at all.


If the gov't allows more people to take certain tax breaks, or gives them immunity from testimony, or allows them to take bereavement leave, how is this effecting you? Higher taxes? It would be such an inconsequential amount as to have little or no effect on you.
 
WinterBorn said:
I am saying that the gov't allowing gay marriages, and giving them the benefits straights enjoy, and businesses doing the same, will not effect you. No one is requiring you to accept anything. .
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????...do you have some strange thought that in the US, "government" is somehow different from "you"?.........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
????...do you have some strange thought that in the US, "government" is somehow different from "you"?.........
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I realize that we are the gov't. But it does not mean we accept or support everything the gov't does.

Do you accept and support the studies to see whether grass grows better on the north side of a hill? Did you accept and support the building of the "Bridge to No where"? There are hundreds of thousands of people who do not accept or support the war in Iraq.

So the fact that the gov't accepts something does not force you to accept it.
 
WinterBorn said:
I realize that we are the gov't. But it does not mean we accept or support everything the gov't does.
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it doesn't matter if we accept or support it, we would still be required to do it.....that is force.....are you saying that if we don't like building a "bridge to nowhere" we have no right to speak against it, we just have to sit back and accept it because it doesn't "effect" us?.....bullshit.....

you've just proved my point.....my taking a position against gay marriage is thus equally valid as any liberal taking a position against the Iraq war......

you can't say gay marriage doesn't affect me unless you can also say the Iraq war doesn't affect anyone else in the country besides those fighting it.......
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
if someone proposed requiring us to consider Satanic rituals as "normal" it would certainly affect me.....
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Allowing someone to be married in a satanic ritual has not effected you in the least. Those weddings have happened numerous times. Has your life changed? Have you been forced to accept satanism?

The gov't recognizes Wicca as a religion, and even has military chaplains trained in the beliefs. Has this effected you? Have you been forced to accept Wicca?
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
it doesn't matter if we accept or support it, we would still be required to do it.....that is force.....are you saying that if we don't like building a "bridge to nowhere" we have no right to speak against it, we just have to sit back and accept it because it doesn't "effect" us?.....bullshit.....

you've just proved my point.....my taking a position against gay marriage is thus equally valid as any liberal taking a position against the Iraq war......
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The liberals had reasons for taking their stand. They were against our soldiers dying and against an invasion.

The bridge to nowhere wastes large sums of your tax dollars.

That is what you are be protesting, not the actual act of building a bridge or fighting a war.

I used those as examples of the fact that gay marriage would not force you to accept anything. And it proved that point.
 
WinterBorn said:
You have said this before, but you have never actually explained how gay marriages degrade traditional marriages.

Your marriage is between you and your wife. The only people who can degrade your marriage are you or your wife.
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You are again confusing my marriage with the institution of marriage.
 
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