Into the Night
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Why I am am athiest
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Into the Night
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Not an example, Hugo. Wake up and try again.
Dutch Uncle
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Dutch Uncle
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Litmus
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lol..
you just went full stupid here.
you're totally out of your league, dum dum.
Litmus
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morality is just being a decent person, not a psycho totalitarian murderer eventually starts murdering for thought crimes.
scientists weighing in is usually the the satanic deep state trying to push some form of moral relativist scientism to they can lead society into a kill spree.
Dutch Uncle
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Fredo, you've proved repeatedly that you're both a racist and an antisemite. You aligned yourself with the white supremacist militias on JPP. You've proved yourself to be in the Abbie Normal category of Americans.
Those are all leagues in which I avoid yet you happily embrace. The fact you can't see this is why I believe you are being manipulated into becoming a patsy for a militia terrorist attack.
back to ignore you worthless troll
Into the Night
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I am not you, Sybil.^^^
Sybil gets a clue.
Into the Night
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Argument of the Stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.
Into the Night
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That's not the way it works for the high priests of atheism.
Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and any cursory search of YouTube shows atheists passionately promoting their beliefs, and trying to tear down the beliefs or religionists.
Daylight63
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Dawkins and Hitchens are the "loudmouths" of atheism...not the high priests. Just as in every philosophy under discussion in the general public sphere there are those who are loudly pushing their points and those who are not.
The model is religion. For millennia there have been loud proselytizers who sometimes get quite aggressive. Many people have had to endure hearing their excoriations of unbelievers for decade upon decade. Maybe these atheist loudmouths are just the mirror of that?
Atheists in our society are among the least trusted people per most polls run. Not because they actually have done anything overtly to deserve that but primarily because most people in the US have some religious belief. The lack of belief often causes problems for the believers. Which is why until only recently it was perfectly legal to keep an atheist from being able to hold public office (per some state constitutions).
Given the literally thousands upon thousands of loud public speakers dumping anger on atheists I'm not sure that 3 or 4 loud atheists pushing back is really anything in comparison.
If anything, atheism is pretty much under wraps in America. It's getting to be more common that atheists "come out of the closet" and in some way it is because some atheists were willing to speak up for a change. And challenge the overwhelming hatred of atheists that our society usually defaults to.
So this is your new sock Kafka/Perry PhD.
If there are two basic flavors of atheists, the mild mannered live-and-let-live atheist and on the other hand the belligerent militant atheist, the free market has decided which one is more popular and influential.
How many Twitter followers do you have? How many books on atheist belief have you sold?
Dawkins and Hitchens had hundreds of thousands of followers, sold vast numbers of books, and Youtube Channels, TikTok, and Twitter are pregnant with atheists who are deeply opinionated and have an agenda to promote.
There's nothing wrong with that, except that the honest appraisal is that militant and opinionated atheism is the brand of atheism that dominates the free market.
Daylight63
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I don't know to whom you are referring.
Obviously the second. But my point was that there are so vanishingly few heavy duty proselityzers for atheism that it pales in comparison to the overwhelming majority of religious proselityzers who have consistently beat up on atheists for generations.
I don't like EITHER flavor but I see less issue from the former than the latter.
I'm not on X
I didn't realize one had to have book sales to have an opinion on atheists.
Yet the reach is grossly outdone by the millennia in which atheism has been railed against by religion.
Remember that atheists consistently are ranked among the least trustworthy people in the US in poll after poll. The atheists are no threat to religion. The atheists are usually pretty quiet. Why can't they have a couple cheer leaders?
I must disagree with this. If only because America is dominated by people with religious beliefs.
"In U.S., 47% Identify as Religious, 33% as Spiritual" Gallup Poll
In U.S., 47% Identify as Religious, 33% as Spiritual
Slightly less than half of U.S. adults describe themselves as religious, while 33% say they are spiritual but not religious and 18% are neither.
news.gallup.com
I'm not certain how that indicates that atheists "dominate the free market".Yes you do, this sock is your new incarnation of Kafka aka Perry PhD.
The free market has voted on which form of atheism is the most popular and influential. There's no point tap dancing around it.Obviously the second. But my point was that there are so vanishingly few heavy duty proselityzers for atheism that it pales in comparison to the overwhelming majority of religious proselityzers who have consistently beat up on atheists for generations.
I don't like EITHER flavor but I see less issue from the former than the latter.
I'm not on X
I didn't realize one had to have book sales to have an opinion on atheists.
Yet the reach is grossly outdone by the millennia in which atheism has been railed against by religion.
Remember that atheists consistently are ranked among the least trustworthy people in the US in poll after poll. The atheists are no threat to religion. The atheists are usually pretty quiet. Why can't they have a couple cheer leaders?
I must disagree with this. If only because America is dominated by people with religious beliefs.
"In U.S., 47% Identify as Religious, 33% as Spiritual" Gallup Poll
In U.S., 47% Identify as Religious, 33% as Spiritual
Slightly less than half of U.S. adults describe themselves as religious, while 33% say they are spiritual but not religious and 18% are neither.
I'm not certain how that indicates that atheists "dominate the free market".
As far as the atheist niche of the market is concerned, militant and belligerent atheism is what sells books, websites, podcasts, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok.
One cursory look around the internet is all the proof you will need. Atheist book sales and YouTube are pregnant with militant atheists practicing a belligerent brand of atheism.
Mild-mannered, live-and-let-live atheists get almost no traction in the free market economy of ideas.
When you were posting as Kafka and Perry, you yourself went out of your way to question the intelligence of anyone who was religious, by comparing religious faith to believing in invisible pink leprechauns. That choice of words was intended to be demeaning and disparaging.
Why not be honest that it is militant atheism that sells? There's nothing wrong with that, there are a lot of rightwing evangelical jackasses who are belligerent too and deserve some payback.
Into the Night
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There is evidence of a god. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.
Into the Night
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They are not atheists.
Into the Night
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There is no such thing as a 'militant' atheist.
Neither Dawkins nor Hitchens are atheist.
You are not an atheist either, Sybil.