Why is a Constitutional Republic more proper than a democracy?

[IBDaMann]

Sorry, I can't take you seriously. Dismissed.

That's one of the more cowardly ways for you to tip your king.

 

[IBDaMann]

What, you can't read?

I can. There is no "folks" avatar on JPP. I merely asked you to whom you were addressing your post because it wasn't to me. I didn't realize that you couldn't read my question.

Posturing,

EVASION.

I'll file that in the ignorant file.

EVASION.

Question has an assumed premise, Clearly, you are unskilled in the art of debate.

EVASION. Panic.

Let's start with the fact that question has a false premise.

EVASION.

"MAGA maniacs' is just a rhetorical quip.

OK. What does that mean? What about wanting to make America great again makes someone a maniac?

don't take it personally,

I have to. You are calling me a maniac for wanting to make America great again.

It's like saying 'joetato' or ''sleepy joe'.

That's not the same thing. "Sleepy Joe" is an instance of the class person. There are no dispersions being cast on the class. You, on the other hand, are creating a class of people as defined by your dispersions. You are casting dispersions on the class of people who want to make America great again.

Until you clarify, I must assume that you HATE America, and I will frame your comments within that context.

No, it's a thought terminating cliche

Nope. It's a debilitating disease and you should discuss it with your therapist.

You see, Trump doesn't like it when he is criticized,

Actually, Trump solicits critical feedback, which is why he is always on point with policy positions. You really shouldn't pretend to speak for anyone but yourself.

and what better way to get his followers to shut people up than for his followers to claim his detractors have a mental condition,

You totally misunderstand your affliction. Your TDS literally precludes you from being rational on this topic. You are forced to EVADE and to be totally dishonest, regardless of your best of intentions.

and that way they don't need to continue the conversation beyond that point?

The next time you flee to your safe space, try to notice that you are the one who flees at the drop of a hat, making people such as myself wait until you regain your composure and return.

I'm not running anywhere, least of all with my tail between my legs as you do.

You won't find 'TDS' in any clinical treatise by anyone with any real credibility

Did you see what happened right there? Your TDS forced you into a No True Scotsman fallacy, in order to more greatly solidify your denial.

Question has an assumed/false, premise. See above.

EVASION, presumably TDS-driven and based on fear and HATRED of America.

An ignorant person would assume that, no doubt.

Implicit agreement.

I'll file that in the ignoramus and assorted idiocy file.

Implicit agreement.

Sorry, I can't take you seriously.

Cowardly tipping of your king.

 

[Feynman Lives!]

You are confused. You claim that you aren't talking about people who want to make America great again...

Yeah.... I'm not talking about those. I'm just talking about MAGAs. All they want is to make Trump President again.

Most of them don't give a crap about America. Most would have their states secede, if they had a chance.

 

[IBDaMann]

Yeah.... I'm not talking about those. I'm just talking about MAGAs.

Like I said, you are greatly confused. Let me know when something changes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What about them?

Please complete your thought because that doesn't mean anything. There have been many types of jirgas in history. If they govern a state, and the people who they govern elects them, it's a democracy. Otherwise, it's a dictatorship. The same goes for ANY other type of governiing body you can come up with.

And again, this is not about me. It's a concept in Political Science. Used worldwide by ALL nations in the world and international organizations. You want to deny it and come up with your own personal definitions, fine by me. I don't care. But nihilism is always a sign of inadequate education.

Son, you have well demonstrated you don't have a hint of a clue regarding even the most common terms relating to political systems.

 

[Nordberg]

There are thousands of elections in America every year. They are all decided by the most votes, except one, the presidency. There have been several attempts by both parties to make it a popular vote. They failed. Since the electoral college now favors the Repubs, they will not go along. We are stuck with this atavistic measure that was installed in the beginning to appease slave states.

 

[EdwinA]

The problem I have with your position is that it does not allow States to decide their votes. The States are supposed to be voting on the President, but you want to tell each State how it must decide its vote. If a State wishes to implement a "winner-take-all" approach then that is the right of that State's legislature, just as you individually have every right to vote straight party ticket if you wish.

Would you prefer every State get one vote each and dispense with the pretense of people voting?

I don't assume state govts. are somehow less corrupt than the Feds. One elector for almost 300,000 voters is ridiculous, so I would prefer a better system. I also think straight party voting should be banned as well. Just leave the rest of the ballot blank when you don't have a frigging clue about the candidates, the only reason for such a box on the ballots.

 

[IBDaMann]

I don't assume state govts. are somehow less corrupt than the Feds.

I get it. The point is that we need a system whereby the State legislatures select the President. How would you go about accomplishing this? The current Electoral College has the advantage of factoring in the people. How would you change it?

One elector for almost 300,000 voters is ridiculous,

Well, like I said, you could just give each State one vote and all States would be on equal footing.

so I would prefer a better system.

What are your thoughts?

 

[IBDaMann]

There are thousands of elections in America every year. They are all decided by the most votes, except one, the presidency.

Yes. The Chief Executive for the Union has to be different because the States are deciding it. It's not a popular vote.

There have been several attempts by both parties to make it a popular vote.

Unconstitutional.

We are stuck with this [Constitutional] measure that was installed in the beginning to appease [all] states.

FTFY.

 

[Publius]

That's one of the more cowardly ways for you to tip your king.

Oh yeah, declaring yourself the winner because someone figures out that you are a petty, sophomoric, smug know-it-all such that you are more boring than listening to Donald Trump telling us than he knows more about everything than anyone, you are the the champion..........

....the champion of self-delusion

 

[IBDaMann]

Oh yeah, declaring yourself the winner

I didn't declare myself the winner so much as you openly forfeited. You can't blame me for that.

because someone figures out that you are a petty, sophomoric, smug know-it-all

We all know that no one likes a know-it-all, which is why I have no friends.

... more boring than listening to Donald Trump telling us than he knows more about everything than anyone,

Please send me the link to that. I'd appreciate it. I was operating under the impression that Trump never said that, but you're sure going to show me. Thanks in advance.

 

[Into the Night]

No, I said we should outlaw 'winner take all' and get rid of the electoral college or reform it, something that was done in the past; it is not the same 'electoral college' of the Founders, and it isn't representative of voters. We didn't even elect Senators until the 17th Amendment, in 1913.

It is the same electoral college of the founders, dumbass.

The Senate is supposed to represent the States as States. The 17th amendment should be repealed.

 

[Into the Night]

I thought we were discussing that you are a sociopath, or at least you are voting for one.

Buzzword fallacy. Mantra 1d.

What, you can't read?

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!

Yeah, maybe so, you didn't really deserve more careful prose, but you're still a bullshitter.

Bulverism fallacy.

Whatever

Posturing, a novice's idea of how to debate. I'll pretend you're not a moron (see, posturing).

Word games won't work.

I'll file that in the ignorant file.

Mantra 1a.

Question has an assumed premise, Clearly, you are unskilled in the art of debate.

No, it doesn't. There are no debates here. Only conversations.

Let's start with the fact that question has a false premise. It's a loaded question, it assumes the MAGA movement, actually is going to make America great, again, it's founded on on the rather myopic notion that AMerica isn't great, and needs to be restored, these are all debatable and assumed premises, and, as such, the question ahs a highly debatable and assumed premise. It's the kind of question that either:
1. you are stupid
2. You never learned out to properly frame a question
3. You are unskilled in the art of debate, overall.
4. All of the above.

Not a loaded question. Word games won't work. Mantra 1a.

"MAGA maniacs' is just a rhetorical quip. don't take it personally, It's like saying 'joetato' or ''sleepy joe'. However, what is dumb is your failure to grasp that that's all it was, and you took the bait.

MAGA isn't a person.

No, it's a thought terminating cliche implanted by a demagogue designed to curb critical thinking and kill the conversation. You see, Trump doesn't like it when he is criticized, and what better way to get his followers to shut people up than for his followers to claim his detractors have a mental condition, and that way they don't need to continue the conversation beyond that point? Clever, right?. And you are perfect evidence of that fact.
You won't find 'TDS' in any clinical treatise by anyone with any real credibility in the field of mental health. However, 70,000 mental health professionals have signed a petition that Trump is sick in the head. https://www.change.org/p/trump-is-mentally-ill-and-must-be-removed?

Psychology is not medicine. They are not health professionals. Argument from randU fallacy. Omnscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for everyone. Mantra 1d.

Question has an assumed/false, premise. See above.


An ignorant person would assume that, no doubt.

You are projecting.

Inversion fallacy. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ANYBODY ELSE!

See above.

I'll file that in the ignoramus and assorted idiocy file.

You are ignorant, arrogant, and engage in self puffery a lot, which is what smug pricks, ignoramuses do, a lot.


Sorry, I can't take you seriously.

Mantra 1a. Bulverism fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Incessant projectionism,

LIF. Grow up.

Fallacious fallacy syndrome. Failure to debate points on point.

Buzzword fallacies. Denial of logic.

Sorry, I can't take you seriously.

Dismissed.

Bulverism fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Clearly, you are not well read, or you don't understand what you've read.

Mantra 1a. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

If you had, you'd know the difference between a democrat and a communist.

Democrats are communists and fascists. They are socialists.

You'd know that historically speaking, in all the corridors of power, academia, and educated people, they clearly don't make such a distinction between a 'constitutional republic' and a 'representative democracy',

The term "constitutional republic" is redundant.
There is no such thing as a "representative democracy". Democracies have no representatives.

as the OP makes, that these terms are not mutually exclusive.

False authority fallacy.

Only since Republicans have been failing to win the popular vote,

The President is not elected by popular vote.

and their desire to establish voter suppression legislation,

There is none, except by Democrats. DON'T BLAME DEMOCRAT ELECTION FRAUD ON TRUMP!

have they been making this claim. This, apparently, is a byproduct of Trumpism. Back in the day,. they never used to. But,. with morons like Mark Levin, now it's a thing.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

Since you don't know the difference, either you are lying, or you are ignorant, or you are a troll.

Word games won't work.

Given your incessant ignorance, posturing/self-puffery, smug certainty, arrogance, inability to debate on point, I can't take you seriously.

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ANYBODY ELSE!

There is no greater stench than that of a smug ignoramus, and an educated one, even worse.

That would be you.

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ANYBODY ELSE!

I repeat; I really can't take you seriously.

Bulverism fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

I think you are phony, a small, petty man.

Mantra 1a.

Just like Trump. No wonder you'd vote for him.

Mantra 1a. Bulverism fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy. Gaslighting.

 

[Into the Night]

Oh yeah, declaring yourself the winner because someone figures out that you are a petty, sophomoric, smug know-it-all such that you are more boring than listening to Donald Trump telling us than he knows more about everything than anyone, you are the the champion..........

....the champion of self-delusion

Mantra 1a. Bulverism fallacy. You have no arguments left to present, it seems.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah.... I'm not talking about those. I'm just talking about MAGAs. All they want is to make Trump President again.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

Most of them don't give a crap about America. Most would have their states secede, if they had a chance.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

That's TWO new paradoxes in ONE post!

 

[Into the Night]

There are thousands of elections in America every year. They are all decided by the most votes, except one, the presidency.

The Presidency is as well, Sybil.

There have been several attempts by both parties to make it a popular vote. They failed.

Nope. No such attempt has been made.

Since the electoral college now favors the Repubs,

It doesn't.

they will not go along. We are stuck with this atavistic measure that was installed in the beginning to appease slave states.

There is no such thing as a "slave State", Sybil.

 

[Publius]

I didn't declare myself the winner so much as you openly forfeited.

So, you lie, as well? I explained to you why you can't be taken seriously, yet you refuse to accept it and you make up some shit so that you can feel better about your incompetence in the debate arena. How pathetic.

You can't blame me for that.

Oh, you're to blame, no question about that. You're not fooling anyone. You're not even honest.

We all know that no one likes a know-it-all, which is why I have no friends.

Thanks for telling me you have no friends, must be lonely for you.

Please send me the link to that. I'd appreciate it. I was operating under the impression that Trump never said that, but you're sure going to show me. Thanks in advance.

You must be living in a right wing echo chamber bubble, the kind where they withhold damning evidence. This is widely known. That, right there, tells me you are an incompetent debater.

If this doesn't prove Trump is a buffoon, you are beyond help.

 

[Publius]

Buzzword fallacy. Mantra 1d.

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!

Bulverism fallacy.

Word games won't work.

Mantra 1a.

No, it doesn't. There are no debates here. Only conversations.

Not a loaded question. Word games won't work. Mantra 1a.

MAGA isn't a person.

Psychology is not medicine. They are not health professionals. Argument from randU fallacy. Omnscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for everyone. Mantra 1d.

Inversion fallacy. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON ANYBODY ELSE!

Mantra 1a. Bulverism fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Incompetent rebuttal, has 'fallacy' on the brain to the exclusion of reality.
Dismissed.