Why Isn't Facebook Banning Anitfa?

Joe Capitalist said:
Because Antifa is Right wing fake news propaganda. It only exists in right wing delusions.
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Really? Then why does this organization have a flag

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An identifying symbol

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A common title / name

And lots of organizational websites

https://torchantifa.org/
https://itsgoingdown.org/
https://antifascistnetwork.org/
http://antifainc.com/

Their own on-line store

https://www.antifa-store.com/

Not to mention lots of individual cell / group websites:

https://phillyantifa.org/
https://refusefascism.org/
https://www.rosecityantifa.org/

Are you really going to claim that's all "propaganda" and "delusion?"
 
Pax Mongolica said:
Assuming your name is accurate, you are a leftist yourself, so I expect you to defend your media allies.
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Actually it is not accurate. Posters on various political forum sites have called me a leftist so many times that I decided to wear it like a badge of honor.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
What conservative views do you hold?
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Before I answer that (if I can even remember LOL), here's what I stand for.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanization and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and North America.[1][2][3]

Notable liberal individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke,[4] Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on classical economics, especially the economic ideas as espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of The Wealth of Nations and on a belief in natural law,[5] progress[6] and utilitarianism.

Social liberalism, also known as left liberalism in Germany,[1][2][3] new liberalism in the United Kingdom,[4][5] modern liberalism in the United States,[6] and progressive liberalism in Spanish speaking countries[7] is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. Under social liberalism, the common good is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.[8]

Social liberal policies have been widely adopted in much of the world.[9] Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centrist or centre-left.[5][10][11][12][13] A social liberal government is expected to address economic and social issues such as poverty, welfare, infrastructure, health care, education and the climate using government intervention whilst also emphasizing the rights and autonomy of the individual.[14][15][16]

In the United States, the term social liberalism may sometimes refer to progressive stances on sociocultural issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage as opposed to social conservatism. Because cultural liberalism expresses the social dimension of liberalism, it is often referred to as social liberalism, although it is not the same as the broader political ideology known as social liberalism. A social liberal in this sense may hold either conservative or liberal views on fiscal policy.
 
AProudLefty said:
Before I answer that (if I can even remember LOL), here's what I stand for.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism that advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanization and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and North America.[1][2][3]

Notable liberal individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke,[4] Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on classical economics, especially the economic ideas as espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of The Wealth of Nations and on a belief in natural law,[5] progress[6] and utilitarianism.

Social liberalism, also known as left liberalism in Germany,[1][2][3] new liberalism in the United Kingdom,[4][5] modern liberalism in the United States,[6] and progressive liberalism in Spanish speaking countries[7] is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. Under social liberalism, the common good is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.[8]

Social liberal policies have been widely adopted in much of the world.[9] Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centrist or centre-left.[5][10][11][12][13] A social liberal government is expected to address economic and social issues such as poverty, welfare, infrastructure, health care, education and the climate using government intervention whilst also emphasizing the rights and autonomy of the individual.[14][15][16]

In the United States, the term social liberalism may sometimes refer to progressive stances on sociocultural issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage as opposed to social conservatism. Because cultural liberalism expresses the social dimension of liberalism, it is often referred to as social liberalism, although it is not the same as the broader political ideology known as social liberalism. A social liberal in this sense may hold either conservative or liberal views on fiscal policy.
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So, if you aren't a leftist, then are you libertarian, Classical Liberal, or progressive?
 
AProudLefty said:
Explain.
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Both progressives and leftists push for social norms that are very far left. The only fundamental difference is that progressives go for the use of government to accomplish this, whereas leftists tend to be anarchists that usually prefer more of a labor collective approach. Still, labor collectives function nearly identically to government, so it seems to be more semantics than a practical difference.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
Both progressives and leftists push for social norms that are very far left. The only fundamental difference is that progressives go for the use of government to accomplish this, whereas leftists tend to be anarchists that usually prefer more of a labor collective approach. Still, labor collectives function nearly identically to government, so it seems to be more semantics than a practical difference.
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Suffrage and CRA are progressive.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
So was I. The Civil Rights Act restricts both discrimination from the government and from the private sector.
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That requires government to make sure it is followed. No discrimination at all.

If there were no retards, we wouldn't need acts and laws to manage them.
 
AProudLefty said:
That requires government to make sure it is followed. No discrimination at all.

If there were no retards, we wouldn't need acts and laws to manage them.
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No discrimination toward protected classes, at least. Of course, what is chosen as a protected class is somewhat arbitrary.

Although, anti-discriminatory laws are a lot like hate crime laws. They tend to be inconsistent in their application.
 
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