Why Isn't Facebook Banning Anitfa?

Pax Mongolica said:
Both progressives and leftists push for social norms that are very far left. The only fundamental difference is that progressives go for the use of government to accomplish this, whereas leftists tend to be anarchists that usually prefer more of a labor collective approach. Still, labor collectives function nearly identically to government, so it seems to be more semantics than a practical difference.
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That's based on your opinion and not fact. Unless you can prove it.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
So, pushing for Communism isn't very far left?

I'd post links, but honestly, if you think Antifa doesn't exist, I'm not sure if links would matter in this discussion.
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No sane person would push for Communism here in America.
 
AProudLefty said:
No sane person would push for Communism here in America.
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I agree. But that's the problem with many on the far left. There are many people who still buy the "but that wasn't real Communism" malarkey.

A lot of people don't realize that socialism is just as bad.

Now, you can socialize certain amenities effectively, but that's quite different from a socialist economy.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
JPP Reichtards sure love fascism based on their hatred for the anti fascist movement (ANTIFA).
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NiftyNiblick said:
JPP Reichtards sure love fascism based on their hatred for the anti fascist movement (ANTIFA).
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Plenty of people (conservative and moderate) wouldn't have a problem with Antifa if they didn't violently attack random people or burn down buildings. If they actually were more selective about who they called fascists, it would help as well.

The problem is that they are just a left wing version of radical Islamists. To them, any non-believers are heathens.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
Plenty of people (conservative and moderate) wouldn't have a problem with Antifa if they didn't violently attack random people or burn down buildings. If they actually were more selective about who they called fascists, it would help as well.

The problem is that they are just a left wing version of radical Islamists. To them, any non-believers are heathens.
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They ARE being selective. Every time the white supremacists and some other retards show up, Antifa is always there.
 
AProudLefty said:
They ARE being selective. Every time the white supremacists and some other retards show up, Antifa is always there.
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And they also attack old people and press members. They target a lot more than just white supremacists. Some have also attacked ICE facilities and federal courthouses.
 
AProudLefty said:
Which Antifa members? And why lie about the BLM?
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One of the founders of BLM advocated for Marxism. Patrice Cullors. That's just one of many examples.

As far as Antifa goes, they are openly anti-capitalist and are often anarcho-communist. Naming specific individuals is difficult due to the fact that they operate mostly with anonymity. If you want a better understanding of their inner workings, Mark Bray is a good start. He summarizes several key points about their communist and anarchist preferences in this article: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/25/16189064/protests-george-floyd-antifa-president-trump
 
Pax Mongolica said:
One of the founders of BLM advocated for Marxism. Patrice Cullors. That's just one of many examples.

As far as Antifa goes, they are openly anti-capitalist and are often anarcho-communist. Naming specific individuals is difficult due to the fact that they operate mostly with anonymity. If you want a better understanding of their inner workings, Mark Bray is a good start. He summarizes several key points about their communist and anarchist preferences in this article: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/25/16189064/protests-george-floyd-antifa-president-trump
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Marxism is about the struggle between capitalists and the working class.
 
AProudLefty said:
Marxism is about the struggle between capitalists and the working class.
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It is but it involves pushing for a socialist system based on a labor collective running things, depending on which version of marxism or anarchism an individual supports.

And then you sometimes have Marxist-Leninists, who are basically tankies that engage in a No True Scotsman fallacy with how Communism has been implemented in the past.
 
Pax Mongolica said:
It is but it involves pushing for a socialist system based on a labor collective running things, depending on which version of marxism or anarchism an individual supports.

And then you sometimes have Marxist-Leninists, who are basically tankies that engage in a No True Scotsman fallacy with how Communism has been implemented in the past.
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Basically you are against unions, right?
 
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