Why Most Republicans Don’t Like Higher Education
- Thread starter Guno צְבִי
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
so now domer is saying he DID get a tax cut.......I guess he just isn't grateful for it.......
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
There is no such thing as "free" college.
NOTHING is "free" in life... It always costs somebody something...
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
You seem quite angry... Why are you so angry all the time??
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
My main point was that when the working class was voting "in their own interests" (for Democrats) all those years their well-being actually deteriorated. You are blaming it all on Republicans but that doesn't change the fact that it was still happening--so voting in their own interests did not seem to be in their interest.
It started long before Obama according to the posters taking that viewpoint and said the decline started in the 1970's.
The whole "shrinking middle class" argument is misleading. The middle class has declined (based on how it is measured) but it is because more people moved into higher income groups, not lower income. [IRS].
Other people would be free if Dark Soul gave them some of his? Isn't that also theft?
Colleges will raise their costs even more if the government is going to pay for it--and double the number of administrators.
You brought up the topic of why people attend universities--"those who attend institutions of higher education do so only to make more money afterwards,"
Why did those celebrities want their kids to attend?
The guy who owned the lawn care business I worked in HS for spent 3 months every winter in Florida. He couldn't read, his wife did all the paperwork. They eventually retired and moved there.
... in response to your claim, post 67.
Post #69, cunt. Back it up.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Not an argument.
They voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 about 8-9 million of those who voted for Obama voted for Trump. Telling them it was in their interest to vote Democratic while at the same time telling them their economic position was declining only works for so long. Eventually they try something different.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello gfm7175,
When we refer to free college in political discussions it is generally assumed that we are speaking of tuition being paid by the government, mostly out of taxpayer revenues. It is actually free to the students. This alleviates the burden of being saddled with crushing debt at a time when young people are starting jobs and families and trying to save for a down payment on a home. They pay it back by paying their taxes during their lifetime of work. If a college degree allows them to earn more money, they pay more into the system during their lifetime than it cost the system to put them through college. Thus, it is actually a benefit to both society and the economy, or GDP.
When we refer to free college in political discussions it is generally assumed that we are speaking of tuition being paid by the government, mostly out of taxpayer revenues. It is actually free to the students. This alleviates the burden of being saddled with crushing debt at a time when young people are starting jobs and families and trying to save for a down payment on a home. They pay it back by paying their taxes during their lifetime of work. If a college degree allows them to earn more money, they pay more into the system during their lifetime than it cost the system to put them through college. Thus, it is actually a benefit to both society and the economy, or GDP.
Because you're obviously too stupid to make a decent living, dickhead.
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
poor vocational school boi
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Students are not taxpayers?? Also, why should taxpayers pay for a service for their whole lives even though they only receive that service for a few years of their lives?? Why should I pay for someone else's education??
No, it is not. THEY are paying for it, like you yourself just stated above, through their taxpayer dollars. They will continue to pay for it for their whole lives, instead of just for the few years they are in school, or for however long they have their loan... So no, it is anything BUT "free"... Tacking the name "free" on something does NOT make it free... Maybe it's free for people who don't pay any taxes, but for everyone else, it is anything BUT free...
No, it doesn't. It just spreads that same burden out throughout a taxpayer's lifetime to make it less noticeable to the ignorant taxpayer (and likely would even INCREASE the total amount of burden, since it would be for a lifetime as opposed to X number of years).
For example, (and I'm using random numbers here to illustrate a point), $20,000 instantly, or $6,000/year for four years would both be less of an overall burden on someone than $50/month over 60 years...
Ummmm, I thought you just said that it was free for the students?? Now they're paying it back during their whole lifetime?? Which one is it?? You're locked in paradox here...
So, essentially, you are proposing sneaking yet ANOTHER tax into our paychecks, further reducing our take-home pay, and that's supposed to HELP us somehow? I'm confused... What about the people who already paid for their college schooling out of their own pockets?? Are they supposed to now pay for other people's college schooling also??
Depends upon the degree...
Isn't paying much more than necessary for something hurting the person paying for it? Socialism is theft; it does not create any wealth. It only destroys it. Capitalism is what creates wealth.
67 comes before 69, so you back it up. I'll understand if you can't lol.
Which IRS agent did you talk to about my taxes, bitch? You made the claim, cunt. I’d like to follow up on that.
Oh, wait. I won’t have to, will I, taintlicker? That’s because you’re a fucking liar.
I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.
Read it and weep, bitch.