Why Most Republicans Don’t Like Higher Education

PoliTalker said:
Hello guno,



The fact that Republicans once believed higher education was worth while and now don't - is evidence of the fall of the Republican party. Trump likes the poorly educated and now the whole party is seeing how easily misinformed people can be fooled into voting against their own better interests.

They are in it for the money, folks. They don't care about you. If you're not a billionaire or at least a multi-millionaire and you're voting for the Republican party then you are a fool. The Republican Party doesn't want you to be well educated nor well informed. They want you dumb and hateful. They like easy marks for their con job. And for al you people who really know better but you're shutting up while you get rich off the stock market? Shame on you.
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You got that backwards. Democrats are the ones against freedom, education and self defense. You are right that Republicans are in it for the money but aren't the oversimplified thing you say they are. Republicans open the way for new wealth while Democrats will stop new wealth at every turn, liquidizing your earnings and redistributing it. Democrats turn government into an overbearing presence dictating everything. Republicans aren't gonna hold your hand and sure you might get into some fights in your climb up the corporate ladder, but Republicans aren't going to shut it all down and declare martial law and then ransack your surplus until everyone is nearly naked and living on a coupon book.
 
survivor001 said:
In my opinion, the reason why repukes are against higher education is an effort to keep their base as uneducated, ignorant and easy to manipulate as possible in order for them to sinisterly prey on the uninformed
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Republicans are decisive and set in what they decide. Impressions are everything. If you are trying to get Republican support and you make them think you're a stupid liability then sure you aren't going to win that scholarship. A Democrat is going to award that scholarship to anyone based on demographics and pity and other non-educational bias. Republicans are harder to impress. Either way them seats are going to be filled whether it's a Dem or Rep awarding those scholarships.
 
domer76 said:
:lolup:

I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.

Read it and weep, bitch.
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I made a wish.
 
domer76 said:
:lolup:

I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.

Read it and weep, bitch.
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In your dreams, dickhead.
 
Dark Soul said:
How does my earning money from clients (free trade of money in return for my advice) keep my clients from having money?
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The whole system is based on robbing the people who do the work, as you know, and giving much of what they earn to people who do no work at all. It doesn't keep your clients from having money - it shows them how to cheat others, from which you benefit.
 
Flash said:
You brought up the topic of why people attend universities--"those who attend institutions of higher education do so only to make more money afterwards,"

Why did those celebrities want their kids to attend?
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So that they can make money, presumably, or because it carries kudos. How should I know and why should I care?
 
Flash said:
Other people would be free if Dark Soul gave them some of his? Isn't that also theft?
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No - any sensible society doesn't sell education any more than it sells health. How did it get to be 'his'? The basis of American wealth, for instance, is stealing other peoples land and kidnapping people to work I could go on, generation by generation. Property really is theft.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
Colleges will raise their costs even more if the government is going to pay for it--and double the number of administrators.
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Not if government simply sets the tuition rates. Colleges would be free to accept the rates or not. The ones who do will get all the students. The greedy ones who think they are worth more can charge as much as they like and work with the big financial outfits to continue to place people in crushing debt. I doubt many students will opt for that unless their family is rich and decides to simply pay the exorbitant rates. Just like it is for K-12. People spend thousands to send their kids to designer kindergarten because they want to start that trajectory, and they have big money to burn. But of course, only rich people can afford to do this.
 
domer76 said:
:lolup:

I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.

Read it and weep, bitch.
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Sure, Virgil.
 
iolo said:
The whole system is based on robbing the people who do the work, as you know, and giving much of what they earn to people who do no work at all. It doesn't keep your clients from having money - it shows them how to cheat others, from which you benefit.
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Actually that's not how the system works.

Do you think that there is a limit to the amount of collective wealth that a society can have?
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
They voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 about 8-9 million of those who voted for Obama voted for Trump. Telling them it was in their interest to vote Democratic while at the same time telling them their economic position was declining only works for so long. Eventually they try something different.
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So now they tried it and got their curiosity settled. I wonder how many coal miners who are still waiting for 'coal to come back' are going to continue to support Trump. I wonder how many laid off factory workers are going to continue their support. (Yes, despite the rhetoric, factory workers have been laid off.) And even if they all continue to support Trump, he lost the popular vote by 3 million. Many more Democrats sat our the 2016 election out of disgust over Hillary. That won't be an issue this time.
 
iolo said:
Since there will only be one society and everyone can have what he/she wants to use, no.
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Let's not go off on a weird tangent here.

Wealth is created every day. Examples:
  • Mines and forests produce raw materials that are sold to factories.
  • Factories produce durable goods that people need or want.
  • Builders producing homes for people to buy and live in. The term is "real" estate, meaning that it has lasting value.
Conclusions:
  1. Therefore wealth is created every day.
  2. Therefore there is no practical limit to wealth creation.
  3. Therefore in a voluntary monetary transaction, wealth is not destroyed.
Is there any conclusion here that you disagree with?
 
Dark Soul said:
Let's not go off on a weird tangent here.

Wealth is created every day. Examples:
  • Mines and forests produce raw materials that are sold to factories.
  • Factories produce durable goods that people need or want.
  • Builders producing homes for people to buy and live in. The term is "real" estate, meaning that it has lasting value.
Conclusions:
  1. Therefore wealth is created every day.
  2. Therefore there is no practical limit to wealth creation.
  3. Therefore in a voluntary monetary transaction, wealth is not destroyed.
Is there any conclusion here that you disagree with?
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The raw materials in mines and forests are turned into wealth by the labour of those who work in them, and some of this wealth is stolen by capitalists.
Factories collect labour, and the labour turns out commodities for sale. Much of the value is stolen by capitalists.
Building workers produce homes for people. The rich try to ensure such homes are only for those thieves with enough money to pay big prices, and steal a large profit from those who do the work.

Your first two conclusions are course correct. As to three, nobody said wealth was destroyed. It is stolen from those who create it. Under a decent society it will be available to all for use as required.
 
iolo said:
The raw materials in mines and forests are turned into wealth by the labour of those who work in them, and some of this wealth is stolen by capitalists.
Factories collect labour, and the labour turns out commodities for sale. Much of the value is stolen by capitalists.
Building workers produce homes for people. The rich try to ensure such homes are only for those thieves with enough money to pay big prices, and steal a large profit from those who do the work.

Your first two conclusions are course correct. As to three, nobody said wealth was destroyed. It is stolen from those who create it. Under a decent society it will be available to all for use as required.
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"Labor" is employed in voluntary monetary transactions. Where is the theft?
 
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