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WinterBorn said:
And exactly how does one verify someone is a conservative?
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How can you verify that? Well hell Winter. That's easy.

If you believe "Proletariat" is some kind of French cheese. You might be a conservative.

If you've named your kids "Deduction 1" and "Deduction 2", You might be a conservative.

If you've ever argued that poverty would be elimiated if people were allowed to keep more of their minimum wage, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever argued that Jesus was a capitalist and was opposed to capital gains taxes, You might be a conservative.

If you're a "Pro-Lifer" but support the death penalty, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever refered to a minority as my (insert ethnic slur here) friend, you might be a conservative.

If you think Newton is a cookie, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever cut lose once at a party by removing your neck tie, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever uttered the phrase "Why don't we just bomb the hell out of the sons of bitches!", You might be a conservative.

If you've ever said "Boy I can't wait to get into business school". You might be a conservative.

If you answer to "The Man", You mkight be a conservative.

If you don't think the Simpsons is funny but watch it anyways cause the Flanders fella makes a lot of sense, You might be a conservative.

If you don't believe in premarital sex because you're afraid someone might think your dancing, You could be a conservative.

If you don't let your kids watch Sesamee Street cause you think Bert and Ernie are gay, You could be a conservative.

If you've ever said "Well Rush Limbaugh says.....", You might be a conservative.

If you believe Fox New is actually "Fair and Balanced", You might be a conservative.

If you believe that government subsidies to anyone but farmers, banks and major corporations is creeping socialism, You might be a conservative.

If you really believe that calling President Obama "The Massiah" isn't racist, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever said "Hey Hippie, get a haircut!", You might be a conservative.

If you think Birkenstock was a radical hippie concert in the 60's, You might be a conservative.

If Vietnam and Iraq make a lot of sense to you, You might be a conservative.

If you think evolution is "just a theory", You might be a conservative.

If you've ever pointed to Hootie and the Blowfish as evidence that racism in America is over, You might be a conservative.

If you've ever spent MLK Day reading "The Bell Curve" you might be a conservative.

If you believe in Home Schooling your kid through college, You might be a conservative.
 
I would ask SM to provide verifiable evidence that he is a conservative.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
If you're a "Pro-Lifer" but support the death penalty, You might be a conservative.
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if you think it's immoral to take the life of a murderer, but moral to take the life of an innocent unborn child you quite likely are a liberal.....

If you really believe that calling President Obama "The Massiah" isn't racist, You might be a conservative.
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and, if you think he IS the Messiah, you are likely a liberal....

If you've ever refered to a minority as my (insert ethnic slur here) friend, you might be a conservative.
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if you think you can attract minority voters by increasing welfare spending and reducing the penalties for drug possession, you are likely a liberal.....

If you've ever said "Hey Hippie, get a haircut!", You might be a conservative.
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if you still haven't gotten one, you're likely a liberal.....

If you've ever cut lose once at a party by removing your neck tie, You might be a conservative.
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if you ever ended a party by lynching a minority you are likely a liberal....in fact you may qualify for a position as Senator of West Virginia......

If you think evolution is "just a theory", You might be a conservative.
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if you think evolution is an alternative explanation of creation, you are likely a liberal.....
 
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SM, how about a politician with the following voting record in Congress? Would he be a conservative?

Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-life stance. (Dec 2006)
Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)
Voted YES on paying down federal debt by rating programs' effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on $40B in reduced federal overall spending. (Dec 2005)
Voted YES on prioritizing national debt reduction below tax cuts. (Apr 2000)
Voted YES on 1998 GOP budget. (May 1997)
Voted YES on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (Mar 1997)
Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
Rated 25% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 11% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
Amend Constitution to define traditional marriage. (Jun 2008)
 
Southern Man said:
Issues aren't always black and white. Sometimes folks vote for other reasons.
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If someone runs as a conservative, is elected as a conservative, supports conservative causes, opposes liberal causes, and votes in a conservative line, are you saying that they may not actually be a conservative?
 
Southern Man said:
Solitary is so desperate for a gotcha he'll say just about anything. :)
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There is no need for a gotcha, as you have already proved that.

What I am trying to do now is to understand the rationale behind what you are claiming.

You are the one who claimed (in response to the listed voting record) that "Sometimes folks vote for other reasons".

I am trying to clarify what you mean. What other reasons would Larry Craig have had for voting the way he did?
 
Southern Man said:
Solitary is so desperate for a gotcha he'll say just about anything. :)
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Also, you are trying to make it sound as though I am making some outrageous statement. I am simply making sure you mean what it appears you mean. Since you do not want to make serious, defining statements, we have to work on you to get the entire truth from you.

I simply took your statement about people voting a certain way for other reasons, and expounded on it in the only way that it would apply to someone you have already said is not a conservative.
 
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