Why tax cuts DO create jobs!

[cawacko]

It's coming from employees knowing they have no job security.

In a company the person in charge usually considers the financial benefit of an employee before terminating their employment. Such would not be the case in government.



When it comes to summer jobs for students why wouldn't a manager kick someone out and replace them with a son or daughter or family friend? And as I noted before it wouldn't matter if the terminated employee was a good worker or not as profit would not be considered.

Who has job security? Except for union people there is no such thing. Do you know what people do who don't have job security? They have to work their *ss off to keep their job. I worked for years on full commission. Don't tell me people need to know they can not be fired to do a good job. What ass backward logic.

And students who work summer jobs don't belong to unions.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

When you dishonest fucks have to trash Harvard economists to continue believing Beckys full tilt boogey to sell gold it might be a clue, but then you are clueless.

I can't stand Beck, but one thing I hate worse is having some ivy college graduate thinking he knows how to run my finances better than I do myself.

 

[evince]

Why do you ignore the findings of the very people who should be considered?

You know the brightest economists of our time?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It's coming from employees knowing they have no job security.

In a company the person in charge usually considers the financial benefit of an employee before terminating their employment. Such would not be the case in government.



When it comes to summer jobs for students why wouldn't a manager kick someone out and replace them with a son or daughter or family friend? And as I noted before it wouldn't matter if the terminated employee was a good worker or not as profit would not be considered.

funny thing about company owners, when their business actually starts losing money because a family member is non-productive, they generally take corrective action. Now, that's not always the case, but there it is.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Why do you ignore the findings of the very people who should be considered?

You know the brightest economists of our time?

again, a college degree in bullshit mathematics does not make a person more qualified to tell me how to run my life than my own personal experience.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

This thread is a trip! I can't figure out who is more of a bonehead, apple or desh? On one hand, we have apple telling us you have to belong to a union to work, and desh telling us we don't have to work to boost the economy, we just need unemployment and food stamps! I'm wondering, if we put them both in the same room together... I bet scientists could answer a lot of questions about anti-matter, dark energy, and black holes!

 

[evince]

again, a college degree in bullshit mathematics does not make a person more qualified to tell me how to run my life than my own personal experience.

There you have it.

The premere argument of the braindead.

Spew hate and denial all over any logical and educated person who challenges the lies of the failed ideas of the right.

You are one of the worst enimies the country has.

Fact adverse and willing to dismiss ANYTHING that shows the hot light of truth.

 

[evince]

This thread is a trip! I can't figure out who is more of a bonehead, apple or desh? On one hand, we have apple telling us you have to belong to a union to work, and desh telling us we don't have to work to boost the economy, we just need unemployment and food stamps! I'm wondering, if we put them both in the same room together... I bet scientists could answer a lot of questions about anti-matter, dark energy, and black holes!

too bad you whole fucking mind set is based on lies and what people didnt say.

 

[evince]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/29/news/economy/stimulus_analysis/index.htm/


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As Congress and the White House consider a $150 billion stimulus package that includes tax rebates and tax incentives for business, a report released Tuesday suggests that other methods would do a better job of infusing money into the flagging economy and doing it fast.

The industry research firm Moody's Economy.com tracked the potential impact of each stimulus dollar, looking at tax rebates, tax incentives for business, food stamps and expanding unemployment benefits.

The report found that "some provide a lot of bang for the buck to the economy. Others ... don't," said economist Mark Zandi.

In findings echoed by other economists and studies, he said the study shows the fastest way to infuse money into the economy is through expanding the food-stamp program. For every dollar spent on that program $1.73 is generated throughout the economy, he said.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/29/news/economy/stimulus_analysis/index.htm/


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As Congress and the White House consider a $150 billion stimulus package that includes tax rebates and tax incentives for business, a report released Tuesday suggests that other methods would do a better job of infusing money into the flagging economy and doing it fast.

The industry research firm Moody's Economy.com tracked the potential impact of each stimulus dollar, looking at tax rebates, tax incentives for business, food stamps and expanding unemployment benefits.

The report found that "some provide a lot of bang for the buck to the economy. Others ... don't," said economist Mark Zandi.

In findings echoed by other economists and studies, he said the study shows the fastest way to infuse money into the economy is through expanding the food-stamp program. For every dollar spent on that program $1.73 is generated throughout the economy, he said.

Uhm, I am not sure how to break this to ya, I know it will come as a total shock, but there is not an endless pile of money in Washington. If there were such a pile, we wouldn't need to do a budget each year, and we would never have a deficit. We also wouldn't need to ever tax anyone, we could just get all of our money from the endless pile. No one would need to work, unless they belonged to a union and just wanted to work, but there would be no need for unions, we could just pay everyone whatever they wanted from the endless pile of money. Maybe we would need a union and union workers to take wheelbarrows of money from the pile to go stimulate the economy, but that would probably be the only job.

Food stamps and unemployment stimulate the economy like airplane peanuts sustain life following a plane crash! Technically speaking, yes... they stimulate the economy! So would, dumping bales of currency from low-flying planes! In fact, I bet that idea would probably work even BETTER at stimulating the economy! So why don't we do that desh? Let's just have the government fly around dumping money on us! Hey... it would stimulate the economy!!

 

[Canceled.LTroll.27]

Most amusing.

While you squabble like a pack of leaderless, frightened curs, we are quietly dismantling what is left of your production machinery and shipping it to the new manufacturing center of the world.

We will be revenged for your recent insult to China.

Most amusing.

 

[evince]

Uhm, I am not sure how to break this to ya, I know it will come as a total shock, but there is not an endless pile of money in Washington. If there were such a pile, we wouldn't need to do a budget each year, and we would never have a deficit. We also wouldn't need to ever tax anyone, we could just get all of our money from the endless pile. No one would need to work, unless they belonged to a union and just wanted to work, but there would be no need for unions, we could just pay everyone whatever they wanted from the endless pile of money. Maybe we would need a union and union workers to take wheelbarrows of money from the pile to go stimulate the economy, but that would probably be the only job.

Food stamps and unemployment stimulate the economy like airplane peanuts sustain life following a plane crash! Technically speaking, yes... they stimulate the economy! So would, dumping bales of currency from low-flying planes! In fact, I bet that idea would probably work even BETTER at stimulating the economy! So why don't we do that desh? Let's just have the government fly around dumping money on us! Hey... it would stimulate the economy!!

Your plate of facts are empty dixie.


Keep yanking that shit out of Becky ass.

this little bullshit rant based on dixie's shit smeared hands is so impressive standing next to Harvard economists studies.

 

[Canceled.LTroll.27]

Compare USA discussion of how to assign blame for your failure to China's robust economy.

Chinese stocks rose 2.88 percent Monday with the benchmark Shanghai Composite Index ending at 2,922.95 after economic data released Saturday suggested stable economic growth.

The Shenzhen Component Index gained 3.57 percent, or 444.56 points, to end at 12,905.02.

Three major economic data releases Saturday pointed to faster economic growth: November industrial value-added output rose 13.3 percent year on year; urban fixed asset investment increased 24.9 percent from a year earlier in the first 11 months; and November retail sales grew 18.7 percent year on year.

China's decision makers Sunday wrapped up an annual economic planning meeting, vowing to enhance and improve macro-economic regulation to ensure stable and healthy economic development next year.

Total turnover expanded to 290.74 billion yuan (43.65 billion U.S. dollars) from 186.98 billion yuan the previous trading day.

Winners outnumbered losers 885 to 7 in Shanghai and 1,118 to 9 in Shenzhen.

Sentiment was lifted Friday evening when China's central bank ordered banks to set aside more reserves instead of hiking interest rates, said Guojin Securities analyst Tao Jinggang, adding that Saturday's rosy economic data also boosted investor confidence.

Cement, oil, coal and non-ferrous metal stocks rose strongly.

PetroChina, the country's largest oil and gas producer, rose 4.37 percent to 11.95 yuan while Sinopec, the nation's top refiner, advanced 2.96 percent to 8.36 yuan.

Jiangxi Copper, the country's biggest copper producer, rose by the daily limit of 10 percent to hit 41.42 yuan.

Tongling Nonferrous Metals Group Co., China's second biggest copper producer, added 8.55 percent to 30.84 yuan.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Your plate of facts are empty dixie.


Keep yanking that shit out of Becky ass.

this little bullshit rant based on dixie's shit smeared hands is so impressive standing next to Harvard economists studies.

Wow Deshy, what is your obsession with hands in the ass and smearing shit... did you get into your poopy diaper again?

 

[Canceled.LTroll.27]

A good example of the childishness of the ignorant USA citizen who screams like a baby whilst all around the nation is in ruins.

Fools, your greed betrayed you years ago when China purchased the loyalty of your leaders for dollars.

Now we amuse ourselves by watching your spasmodic death throes play out in venues such as this.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Are you being a dumbass, for the sake of just being a dumbass, or are you truly so much a dumbass that you are unable to understand that this wasn't about your asinine delusions; but instead was a response to her post, regarding the US being in trouble for not being able to produce something.

I deny your premise. Im not being a dumbass. Im telling you your comments were unrelated to rana's solid point that we lose key productions capacities from globalization, capacities we could need sometime.

your point was unrelated to that. And you still cannot explain otherwise.

You're the dumbass here.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

You make some good points. Class warfare is a dead end, in my opinion.

Why do you think the Bush tax cuts have not generated the expected jobs?

The Bush tax cuts DID generate the expected job growth in the short term. Just as they were designed to do. the problem is that tax cuts MUST be paid for with spending cuts. That didn't happen.... thus in the long term there was a reversal.

The reversal was made worse by Clinton's repeal of Glass Steagall (along with Congress of course), Greenspan keeping interest rates low for far far too long, greed of the consumer and lender, and the flat out corruption of Wall Street investment banks.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Class warfare is dead? Somebody needs to tell the rich fascists who are condemning people to death about this new development.

 

[Bfgrn]

You will notice, this thread doesn't begin with a cut-n-paste 'ope-ed' from some partisan internet source, like those on the left typically give us. My threads tend to come from me, and my thoughts, and if there is information online to support what I am saying, I may or may not reference it. Unlike mot pinheads, I have enough competency to articulate my own thoughts, and can compose a fairly decent thread without the inclusion of the work of others. But... I understand, it has become a kind of internet tradition, to post a 'cite' to illustrate how your point is valid, because you need support for things that are otherwise insane. If you didn't post those links, people might have you committed or something.

Translation: either Dixie couldn't find a source, or the blogger he found calls himself Bush-licker.

I saw desh's thread entitled; why tax cuts do not create jobs, and I resisted the urge to click it, I knew what was in there already! Yet another piss-pants liberal blogger opinion, rooted and steeped in left-wing myopic idiocy and total misconception of reality. But it's important I resisted the urge to click the link... for a week! That's progress for me!

The very idea that lowering tax rates on the people who would create a private sector job, wouldn't cause conditions more favorable for them to create a job, is incomprehensible. It defies any reasonable logic. Instead of relying on logic and reality, this viewpoint must rely on incompetent analysis of the information at hand. A presumption that defies reality, and maintains that all rich people will behave in a particular way, all the time. This, of course, is a incoherent thought that is enabled through a developed class envy, which dictates that all rich people will always do and behave in the same manner, regardless of the circumstance. Therefore, in the mind of a pinhead, it makes perfect sense.

So, "a presumption that maintains that all rich people will behave in a particular way, all the time" is "incoherent thought", but when YOU do it, it's intelligence?

In reality, there is no true definition of "the rich" ...it's a label. Some people have great assets, but are not rich. Some people are very rich, yet have very few material assets. Some people are wealthy and don't consider themselves wealthy, others are not wealthy, but think they are. And wealth itself, comes in many different forms. Some pinhead will chortle out the stupidity that 40% of rich people inherited their wealth and didn't earn it...but that means 60% of them earned their wealth, every penny of it!

In all of my years of being a jack of all trades, master of none... (I have held about 100 different job titles in my life) I have never once been offered a job by a poor person. The people in our society, who create the jobs and hire the people for those jobs, are not poor, and mostly not even middle class, they are wealthy. To people with millions or billions of dollars, a 3% increase in tax rate is a pretty big deal. And pinheads can parade around with stupid little numbers trying to show where it doesn't amount to all that much cash to a rich person, but the point is not the cash. There is a cumulative effect when taxes are lowered, it helps promote and create optimism, and encourages those with wealth to become prospective again. Sure, it only means a few more dollars in a rich man's pocket, but he is motivated by things other than money. Knowing the tax rates are lower, he also knows tax rates are lower for his competitors, from the others at the top of the food chain, and realizing this, coupled with the drive and determination that brought wealth in the first place, the rich person acts on this impulse.

Oh, but Dixie.... 1% of the people controls 85% of the wealth!! ....Then you'd think it would behoove us to treat them a little nicer!

ANY business owner, CEO or captain of industry that makes expansion/contraction, hire/fire decisions based on a personal annual payment that may vary by +/- 4% IS a pinhead.

Business owners, CEO's or captains of industry make those decisions based solely on their business ledger, market analysis and supply and demand.

Hey Dix, a decade of Bush's tax cuts created ZERO private sector job growth. Maybe your Monica Lewinsky act isn't enough. Why don't you try licking their assholes.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I deny your premise. Im not being a dumbass. Im telling you your comments were unrelated to rana's solid point that we lose key productions capacities from globalization, capacities we could need sometime.

your point was unrelated to that. And you still cannot explain otherwise.

You're the dumbass here.

You can deny anything you want.
It doesn't mean that just because you deny it, that it isn't the truth.
The fact that you can't even understand that you are a dumbass, shows what a dumbass you're being.

MY COMMENT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONVOLUTED WORLD YOU'VE CREATED FOR YOURSELF AND INSTEAD, WAS TO HER COMMENT REGARDING THE US BEING UNABLE TO PRODUCE WHAT WE MAY NEED.

But you go ahead and stay on that river DENIAL; but it doesn't change the fact that you're a dumbass and it's become obvious that you actually hate the US.