Why was 2nd amendment written?

says the stupidest motherfucker on the planet who tried to tell us that the 2nd was written because the founders feared standing armies, but now that we have such a powerful standing army, the founders would reject the 2nd Amendment...........

go the fuck away you slave loving statist idiot

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Go ahead and post the quote of mine where I stated what the founders would do today,

You are, by far, the Most Ignorant Cocksucker on this Forum.
 
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Go ahead and post the quote of mine where I stated what the founders would do today,

You are, by far, the Most Ignorant Cocksucker on this Forum.

you literally said that the founder wrote the 2nd Amendment because they hated standing armies, but now that we had an overwhelmingly powerful standing army, that the founders would hate the 2nd Amendment
 
you literally said that the founder wrote the 2nd Amendment because they hated standing armies, but now that we had an overwhelmingly powerful standing army, that the founders would hate the 2nd Amendment

Still waiting, Ignorant Cocksucker, for you to find that quote.

Guess what, lying faggot? You won’t because I never made that statement.

Fucking idiot.
 
Still waiting, Ignorant Cocksucker, for you to find that quote.

Guess what, lying faggot? You won’t because I never made that statement.

Fucking idiot.

and here is your posted quote, moron.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...s-2nd-amendment-written&p=4036762#post4036762

The founders hated the notion of a standing army. They saw how it broke nations in Europe and led to almost constant war. Hence, the need for a militia until an army could be mustered, if necessary.

Well, now we have the biggest, baddest standing military in the world. That militia and the need for the requisite arms is outdated.
 
Are you drunk or do you always have trouble with English?

A reply of frustration implying I am drunk , you should go ahead and throw in some vulgar insults and make your self feel like a man pat your self on the back and say good job goober you showed him .
Get that frustration out of your system and try to convince your self by insulting me it makes you the bigger man .
I disagree with your opinion and did not claim you were drunk or stoned or mentally challenged did I.We have a simple difference of of what a document written over 200 years ago imply s , neither of us know for sure what was in the minds of the men involved .,I simple believe it was more about no infringing on our rights to have and carry guns .
 
and here is your posted quote, moron.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...s-2nd-amendment-written&p=4036762#post4036762

The founders hated the notion of a standing army. They saw how it broke nations in Europe and led to almost constant war. Hence, the need for a militia until an army could be mustered, if necessary.

Well, now we have the biggest, baddest standing military in the world. That militia and the need for the requisite arms is outdated.

Yep. I said “outdated”.

Now, illiterate fuck, tell me where I said ANYTHING about what the founders “would have” done today.

Keep demonstrating your massive ignorance, dumbfuck. You just keep adding to the stupidest posts ever seen on this forum. :rofl2:
 
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just like you can't post those exact quotes you claim I made LOL................go suck bidens cock moron

Here they are again, shitstain. In all their glory:

There is no gun problem.

Vehicles cannot be necessary in a modern society.

Smarterthanyou wrote the Constitution.

Gun regulations are not in the interest of public safety.

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A reply of frustration implying I am drunk , you should go ahead and throw in some vulgar insults and make your self feel like a man pat your self on the back and say good job goober you showed him .
Get that frustration out of your system and try to convince your self by insulting me it makes you the bigger man .
I disagree with your opinion and did not claim you were drunk or stoned or mentally challenged did I.We have a simple difference of of what a document written over 200 years ago imply s , neither of us know for sure what was in the minds of the men involved .,I simple believe it was more about no infringing on our rights to have and carry guns .

There is a substantial record of discourse from the time about the 2nd. When it was discussed, there was NEVER a mention of “bearing arms” except in the context of military use. Not hunting. Not home self defense. Not sport shooting. One did not “bear arms” to go out and shoot dinner.

Tell us, Einstein, what does “conscientious objector” mean?


Even in the Articles of Confederation (Article 6), they referred to arms in a military sense. Notice that possession is in the collective sense, not personal sense.

“Every state shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores ... a proper quantity of arms, ammunition, and camp equipage."

The 2nd evolved from that collective right.

Unlike the forum idiot, Dumberthanayew, if you took the time to educate yourself, you’d be better off.
 
We fought in the revolutionary war and following skirmishes with civilian soldiers. It was wise to keep them armed. We were a pretty weak country and not very united.
 
Yep. I said “outdated”.

Now, illiterate fuck, tell me where I said ANYTHING about what the founders “would have” done today.

Keep demonstrating your massive ignorance, dumbfuck. You just keep adding to the stupidest posts ever seen on this forum. :rofl2:

your own words are there, fuckstick. own it.
 
There is no gun problem.
There isn't, except in your idiot mind

Vehicles cannot be necessary in a modern society.
they aren't, unless you have a right to drive them

Smarterthanyou wrote the Constitution.
we the people wrote it, i'm one of we the people

Gun regulations are not in the interest of public safety.
they are in the interest of government control and opression

now you see just how correct my statements are, moron.
 
JokeBox: "... to keep control of the government in the hands of the people so they could restore s tyrannical government "
Jack: Uh, yeah. OK.

That's exactly why, you commie piece of shit. And, shit stain, that's what it says. Shall not be infringed. Lying cock sucker.
 
To allow states to keep their militias. Just a reminder that at the time it was a severe crime to setup a militia without the authority of the state you lived in.

While my opinion is different than yours, compliments to you for responding to the opening post in a way that demonstrates that you read and understood the opening post. I hoped to see a variety of different opinions, so thanks for yours.
 
While my opinion is different than yours, compliments to you for responding to the opening post in a way that demonstrates that you read and understood the opening post. I hoped to see a variety of different opinions, so thanks for yours.

Thank you.

I am going to say something else that you might disagree with, but I believe. The Declaration of Independence was written to explain a revolution, and was pro-revolution. The Constitution was written more than a decade later for a country that was already in existence, by the people who controlled that country. They were not looking to excuse any revolutions.

In fact, at the same time the Second Amendment was being ratified, George Washington was assembling an army to put down the Whiskey Rebellion. There was no thought by any of the Framers to defend the Whiskey Rebellion. When Washington's Army confiscated guns from people accused of being in the Whiskey Rebellion, no one brought up the Second Amendment.
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

militia was a group of citizens who used their own weapons they had at home. these guns were used for self defense and hunting infringed is just that infringed to bear which is to carry.
they wanted the people to be able to protect them self's from a oppressive government be it from overseas and domestic and the only way tom do that was for the people to be able to own and carry fire arms . which was very common in those days especially in the wild country .

You are mostly(but not completely) wrong on a couple of points.

The primary arms that governments tried to take away from militias were cannons. Cannons would generally not be stored in individual's houses, and were not for hunting or self defense.

The weapon of individual soldiers was the smoothbore musket, which was completely useless for hunting or self defense. Rifles would be used for hunting, but were excruciatingly slow to reload, and could not accept a bayonet, so were for the most part not used by militias. The smoothbore muskets that could fire many more shots, and could just as importantly accept a bayonet, had no ability to aim, so were only used in groups (militia companies).

All these weapons were commonly held in central locations, especially as more and more government buildings and armories became available. A big problem was that these public buildings were often schools, so through the 1800's it was not uncommon for schools to blow up.
 
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