Freddy Figbottom
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but not employed as a rabbi as we think of in the modern sense.
hey I taught my kid to ride a bike, Im a Rabbi, everybody, look at me and my important hat.
Why were the Pharisees consistently depicted as the bad guys in the Christian gospels?
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hey I taught my kid to ride a bike, Im a Rabbi, everybody, look at me and my important hat.
Good point.
Archeology demonstrates that even smallish Jewish towns in the first century had Torah schools for boys in the local synagogue.
Jesus' family seems to have allowed him get a Torah and Tanakh-based education in the local synagogue, and he possibly may have even learned a little Greek.
I never said anything about the modern sense. I specifically was talking about a Jew from first century Galilee.
You wanted to move it forward to the 21st century to cover your tracks about how wrong you were
Freddy Figbottom
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but you're talking to modern people, and knowingly confusing them with your dumb bullshit.
That would also explain why the apostles were willing to die for the belief that they had seen Jesus after the crucifixion.The short crucifixion and rising-from-the-dead was the showstopper.
As @Cypress and I have discussed before, surviving a crucifixion was not completely unknown, especially one of a short duration. Lots of people have been buried alive by accident. It's very likely Jesus survived being nailed to a cross for an afternoon, even if he died of sepsis or infection later. Primitive peoples seeing him alive later would most certainly call it "a miracle". You know, like a burning bush, a plague of locusts or the parting of a sea.
No doubt a lot of stories sprang up from that single event. It helps explain why no one ever heard of Jesus of Nazareth until showing up in Jerusalem. The fact he brought a message of Peace, Love, Dove would add to his memory.
People won't die for something they know to be a hoax or fabrication.
Dutch Uncle
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The bad news is that a lot of people have died in the name of religion.
One of my favorite stories are the Zealots and the siege of Masada around 73CE. I had the good fortune to tour Masada in 1987. Many of the movie props were still there. Most fascinating to me was seeing the wall the Romans had built around it.
Now, a study published in the Journal of Roman Archaeology suggests that the siege may not have stretched on for such a long time. Instead, the construction of the siege wall and camps around Masada may have occurred over just 11 to 16 days.
“From the Roman perspective, [the siege] was not such a big story,” co-author Guy Stiebel, an archaeologist at Tel Aviv University, tells Haaretz’s Ariel David. “They came, they made a precision strike and they left after a few weeks.”
To reach their conclusions, the team surveyed the site using aerial drones and photogrammetric 3D modeling. They then used workload calculations to estimate how quickly the Roman fortifications could have been built.
“We know that there were 6,000 to 8,000 Roman soldiers. And we have data and charts showing how many stones young soldiers can move in a day,” Stiebel tells the Times of Israel’s Gavriel Fiske. “The data is very clear. We are talking about a very short period to build the siege system.”
Masada - Israel, Tower & Fortress | HISTORY
Masada is an ancient stone fortress located high above the Dead Sea, its well-preserved ruins attesting to the histor...
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. They'd have truly believed it was a miracle to see Jesus "rise from the dead". While other people have risen from the dead before (e.g. Lazarus), coupling the odds of surviving a crucifixion along with Jesus' message of peace would have given a lot of people something to think about. Having ardent believers continuing to deliver the message, even willingness to die for their beliefs, would have been impressive.
Freddy Figbottom
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labor Zionism are the socialist.
maybe they were just smart enough to realize that the pharisaic regime was total assholes and Jesus just needed to be the first one to say it.
IBDaMann
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Nope, you are redefining terms.
Good. Now for the real definition:
Liberalism is the empowerment to take a life, to steal elections, to loot, to be lawless, to be unaccountable for one's decisions and actions, to erase borders, to perpetrate lawfare on political opponents, to dismantle the Constitutional Amendments and for women, liberalism is the empowerment to take the life of your own child.
Nice trolling. 10/10
IBDaMann
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You haven't shown that they were willing to die.
People absolutely are executed for running scams, hoaxes and fabrications. Who told you that they aren't?
Why do people run scams on criminals, knowing that it might get themselves killed? Because sometimes the rewards outweight the risks. You would understand this if you had gone to college.
Freddy Figbottom
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but you basically believed in the civil rights movements in the fifties right?
IBDaMann
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No. I'm a fan of the Civil Rights Act, but I am always weary of movements.
Freddy Figbottom
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that's why nobody cares about a homeland for fake Jews.
Nothing about ancient history can be proven.
The historicity of the martyrdom of Peter is close to being certain, the martyrdoms of James son of Zebedee, James brother of Jesus, and Paul are most likely probable. The martyrdom of the rest of the apostles range from as probable as not, to implausible.
Also supporting the historicity of the martyrdoms is the complete lack of any alternative written accounts indicating that the apostles abandoned Jesus after the resurrection, submitted to Roman or Jewish authorities, or sauntered off into a comfortable retirement.
The complete lack of any alternative narrative is one line of evidence supporting the historicity of the martyrdoms.
Think man, think!
When threatened with crucifixion and death, people who perpetrated a hoax will confess, rather than die for something they know is a hoax.
What the accusers thought about what the apostles believed proves nothing and is irrelevant. The psychology of the accusers proves nothing.
Freddy Figbottom
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You're not - you're a leftist, a collectivist totalitarian.
Plus Jesus condemned your party. Those like Brother Hakeem (shit be upon him) and Bill Clinton who are proven pedophiles in that they spoke with Epstein. (your rules)
Dutch Uncle
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MAGAts ain't too bright. The schizo ones are highly emotional and reactive.