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Absurdity; the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance, and someone who has lost an argument because they don't have any facts. Yay you! :clap:

So far, the only thing you have brought to the table is calling other people 'Morons'.
Let me ask another question: 'Have you asked your friend Havana Moon what he thinks of Universal Health Care'?
(maybe you should listen to one that has it?)
 
Do you have a good answer?

I know the answer but it gets exhausting trying to educate you leftists

Some systems work better than others.
The US should go around to the developed world and find which system works best, ... then adopt THAT system. Why try and reinvent the wheel?
 
I always love it when you Godless leftists quote Christ to support your redistributionist ways

Yes Christ said those words but he didn’t mean you should use gobblement to steal another mans property to satisfy your conscience.

He meant you should give your own free will. The underlying tenet of Christianity is that we have free will. Leftists like you abhor free will

If leftists like you really wanted to help the poor and really wanted to redistribute incomes you would start with your own. But you don’t. You demand of others that which you don’t voluntarily do on your own. To which I say GO FUCK YOURSELF. I hope your offspring gets AIDS from an infected needle after injecting heroin

:good4u:

You think the mature masturbator has "offspring?"
 
Sorry- you aren't rich enough to get the tax breaks!

So off to work you go, and keep my SS checks coming in! Thanks!

No wonder you are so bitter. Having to just live off of your $900/month socialist insecurity checks.

No wonder you don’t have to file a return

Give me your PayPal account I can help you
 
So far, the only thing you have brought to the table is calling other people 'Morons'.

There you go again with the brain dead lies. If I call people morons, it's because they are acting like morons, MORON. JackOff the Moron. :laugh:

Hey JackOff; you ever whine at the repugnant liberals who little this forum with insults? STFU, you whiny pathetic little hypocrite.

Let me ask another question: 'Have you asked your friend Havana Moon what he thinks of Universal Health Care'?
(maybe you should listen to one that has it?)

Havana isn't my friend you brain dead loon. We have never met and I haven't even "friended" him on this forum. I do wish you could get even the simplest of facts correct. But alas, you're a JackOff moron.

Why do I need to ask him? I know people who have dealt with the shitty system over there and have numerous Canadian friends who deal with their shitty system.

Let me share a true anecdotal story about Britain's vaunted healthcare system. My co-workers father lived in the UK. He had some heart problems and went to see the doctor. It took over a month just to get an appointment. They ran a bunch of tests and determined that he had some blockage and needed by-pass surgery. He was placed on a WAITING list. Now keep in mind, if he had that same condition here, he would have never left the hospital. But the British health care system, being so much better than ours, placed him on a waiting list.

In fear of the inevitable, my co-workers father came to the decision they would go outside the Government channel and pay extra for consideration through private access. This was on top of the confiscatory rates they were already paying to participate in that great Government managed system mind you. He was then placed on a "shorter" waiting list. He died two weeks later of a massive heart attack.

Now JackOff, this is not an isolated event. There are THOUSANDS of stories like these within the many nations you brain dead liberal hacks love to source.

My best friend living in Ottawa called me a while back complaining about his acid reflex and the fact that he had to wait THREE months to see a doctor. I asked him why and got the inevitable, "someone else probably needed it worse than me" response. Again I said, if a system works correctly, NO ONE should have to wait AT ALL.

Carry on JackOff. You need to get out more and visit some of these countries. Oh, and by the way, half my family is living in Germany and I was born there. So I know about the shitty systems in Europe as well.
 
Some systems work better than others.
The US should go around to the developed world and find which system works best, ... then adopt THAT system. Why try and reinvent the wheel?

Maybe the developed world should come here and find out what is actually working instead of morons here wanting the same shitty system they have? Do you half baked loons on the left ever think about that?
 
What you say may be true. Havana is a Conservative, he lives in England and is under the NHS for medical care. You could ask him for an unbiased assessment.
(you may not be aware of this, but calling other people names doesn't advance your argument any)


There you go again with the brain dead lies. If I call people morons, it's because they are acting like morons, MORON. JackOff the Moron. :laugh:

Hey JackOff; you ever whine at the repugnant liberals who little this forum with insults? STFU, you whiny pathetic little hypocrite.



Havana isn't my friend you brain dead loon. We have never met and I haven't even "friended" him on this forum. I do wish you could get even the simplest of facts correct. But alas, you're a JackOff moron.

Why do I need to ask him? I know people who have dealt with the shitty system over there and have numerous Canadian friends who deal with their shitty system.

Let me share a true anecdotal story about Britain's vaunted healthcare system. My co-workers father lived in the UK. He had some heart problems and went to see the doctor. It took over a month just to get an appointment. They ran a bunch of tests and determined that he had some blockage and needed by-pass surgery. He was placed on a WAITING list. Now keep in mind, if he had that same condition here, he would have never left the hospital. But the British health care system, being so much better than ours, placed him on a waiting list.

In fear of the inevitable, my co-workers father came to the decision they would go outside the Government channel and pay extra for consideration through private access. This was on top of the confiscatory rates they were already paying to participate in that great Government managed system mind you. He was then placed on a "shorter" waiting list. He died two weeks later of a massive heart attack.

Now JackOff, this is not an isolated event. There are THOUSANDS of stories like these within the many nations you brain dead liberal hacks love to source.

My best friend living in Ottawa called me a while back complaining about his acid reflex and the fact that he had to wait THREE months to see a doctor. I asked him why and got the inevitable, "someone else probably needed it worse than me" response. Again I said, if a system works correctly, NO ONE should have to wait AT ALL.

Carry on JackOff. You need to get out more and visit some of these countries. Oh, and by the way, half my family is living in Germany and I was born there. So I know about the shitty systems in Europe as well.
 
Maybe the developed world should come here and find out what is actually working instead of morons here wanting the same shitty system they have? Do you half baked loons on the left ever think about that?

They has health care systems like ours. Then ... they decided EVERYONE should have access, not just ones that could afford it.
 
They has health care systems like ours. Then ... they decided EVERYONE should have access, not just ones that could afford it.

If access is your goal then embrace the free market

If quality cost effective care is your goal then embrace the free market

The laws of supply and demand are immutable. They do not disappear before you have an owwy and can’t afford it.
 
What you say may be true. Havana is a Conservative, he lives in England and is under the NHS for medical care. You could ask him for an unbiased assessment.

How could his assessment be "unbiased?"

(you may not be aware of this, but calling other people names doesn't advance your argument any)

You may not know this BUT, liberals like you on this forum aren't interested in facts. They are only interested in promoting their agenda. Therefore, the notion that minds of morons could be changed is hysterically funny and lacking any connection to reality.
 
They has health care systems like ours. Then ... they decided EVERYONE should have access, not just ones that could afford it.

Wrong; further proof that you don't have the slightest clue of what you are arguing about.

Who didn't have access before the Obamacare abomination?
 
If access is your goal then embrace the free market

If quality cost effective care is your goal then embrace the free market

The laws of supply and demand are immutable. They do not disappear before you have an owwy and can’t afford it.

HIT THE NAIL ON THE PROVERBIAL HEAD!!!

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I don’t defend how we pay for healthcare in this country. I have already outlined the fix numerous times. If you want to know then I suggest you search the site. If you don’t know how have a five year old explain it to you.

I have no desire to explain complex economics to a financial illiterate.

Once again you demonstrate your ability to have a rational, or intellectual, "debate". That is far beyond your abilities just as is your declaration that the ACA was beyond my understanding. Of course it was a step towards Universal Healthcare, and could have been paid for by the funds already being placed in Medicare, Medicaid, and the private insurers. Of course, understanding that concept would be far beyond that of a financial "wizard" such as yourself.

But you see "genius", all you, and the Repugnant "geniuses" you support, accomplished by not working with the Democrats (as the Democrats did with the Repugnant ones over Medicare Part D) was to place more people on the uninsured rolls thus driving up the costs of healthcare, pharmaceuticals, and thus the cost of premiums. Like all of the promises made by the liar you love the most the promise of a better system as forecasted by the Repugnant ones was a lie.

Of course, the ACA was a Repugnant Party plan to begin with.

But hell, a "genius" like you should, or not, be able to figure that one out.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168851018301544
 
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