WTF is a "just economy'?

T. A. Gardner said:
No, Socialism is the public owns the means of production (in the purest sense of the word). Government can be a democracy or whatever and acts as the board of directors for the companies. They can be voted in or out. In N. Korea the elections are nothing but a sham. Kim Jong Un can't be voted out. The top people in the NK government can't be either. They can throw someone in a labor camp on a whim. Trials are nothing but for show. In Kim says "Off to the gulag with him!" it's off to the gulag. He has absolute power and is above the law. He is a monarch.

He shares the usual traits, one of the more obvious is he is virtually deified as a god. That's very typical of monarchies.
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So ... In North Korea, "the public owns the means of production??"
 
CFM said:
You are obviously one of those that pays zero income taxes yet wants a cut.
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Not like teabaggers or their dear leader, they think, just because they don't pay taxes, it makes them smart but want everyone ELSE to pay.
“The only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax,” Clinton said at the time. Trump responded: “That makes me smart.”

The president said that he is a better steward of his own money than the government. “It would be squandered, too, believe me,”

Just like Dotard squandered his $450 million inheritance.
 
Darth Omar said:
You’re delusional.

Part of your rant was about Hitler’s nationalism. Yes, Hitler was a nationalist but anyone who claims a parallel between Hitler’s nationalism and Trumpian nationalism is ignorant of one or both.
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Projecting again, lying delusional, moron.

I was replying to small dog "There nothing conservative or libertarian about Hitler".

My reply?

Hitler?
What does Adolf have to do with my comment?
But since you mentioned Hitler.

"Adolf Hitler's political views were formed during three periods, namely (1) his years as a poverty-stricken young man in Vienna and Munich prior to World War I, during which he turned to nationalist-oriented political pamphlets and antisemitic newspapers out of distrust for mainstream newspapers and political parties".

Remind you of anyone?
Remind you of any cult?

(2) the closing months of World War I when Germany lost the war, as Hitler is said to have developed his extreme nationalism during this time, desiring to "save" Germany from both external and internal "enemies" who in his view betrayed it".

Remind you of anyone?
Remind you of any cult?

(3) and the 1920s, during which his early political career began and he wrote Mein Kampf. Hitler formally renounced his Austrian citizenship on 7 April 1925, but did not acquire German citizenship until almost seven years later; thereby allowing him to run for public office. Hitler was influenced by Benito Mussolini, who was appointed Prime Minister of Italy in October 1922 after his "March on Rome".

Interesting, appointed?

"Although Hitler realized that his ascension to power required the use of the Weimar Republic's parliamentary system (founded on democratic principles), he never intended for the continuation of democratic governance once in control. Contrarily, Hitler proclaimed that he would "destroy democracy with the weapons of democracy".

Remind you of anyone?
Remind you of any cult?

Where is nationalism mentioned?
 
CFM said:
Stupidity is painful. The problem is the stupidity on the left is painful for those of us that have to deal with it.

No, the government doesn't provide the funding. Taxpayers provide the funding. The government gets to misuse it for political purposes.
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Yeah, I'm also dealing with lying, morons, like you.

Where do you think the $$$ came from for our interstate highway system?

"After Dwight D. Eisenhower became president in 1953, his administration developed a proposal for an interstate highway system, eventually resulting in the passage of the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956. Construction of the Interstate Highway System was proclaimed complete in 1992, though some planned routes were canceled and several routes have stretches that do not fully conform with federal standards. The cost of construction of the Interstate Highway System was approximately $114 billion (equivalent to $530 billion in 2019). The original system has been expanded numerous times through the creation of new designations and the extension of existing designations".

"Though much of their construction was funded by the federal government, Interstate Highways are owned by the state in which they were built".

The government provides the money, then collects taxes for it, why do you think we have deficits?

Where did you study "gubmint"? Trump U.?
 
Into the Night said:
Welfare is not profit, dumbass. Doublespeak.
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You're FOS, usual for teabaggers.
In 1949, government payments made up 1.4% of total net farm income — a measure of profit — while in 2000 government payments made up 45.8% of such profits".

"In 2019, farms received $22.6 billion in government payments, representing 20.4% of $111.1 billion in profits".


It is to corporate farmers , moron, THEIR profit
 
Into the Night said:
UV light does destroy viruses, including Covid19.
Yes, it's possible to insert such a light into the trachea. There is a company that makes just such a device.

UV light does enter the skin. UV-A light causes cells in basal skin to orient cell pigment over the nucleus, like an umbrella. This is what gives a person a tan. A tan fades away again as cell pigments become more random again.
UV-B light travels deeper into the skin and causes cell disruption and damage. This is what causes sunburn. Most of UV-B light is filtered out by going into creating ozone from oxygen in the atmosphere. This takes place in the lower stratosphere, and is an endothermic reaction, making that one of the coldest temperatures in the atmosphere.
UV-C light travels even deeper into the body and cause rapid disruption of cells, both in the skin and in subcutaneous tissue. This light is VERY dangerous. It it completely filtered out in the upper atmosphere by going into the destruction of ozone into oxygen. This is an exothermic reaction, making the stop of stratosphere warmer. The ozone/oxygen cycle (also known as the Chapman cycle) is why the stratosphere has a temperature inversion, despite the decreasing total thermal energy with altitude.

Internally, UV-A light (which is what this device emits) can potentially cause problems if used at higher intensity, but at the low intensity of this device is perfectly safe and is effective against viruses and bacteria.

I support the use of this device. It can be effective at controlling some of the more dangerous infections such as pneumonia and some really destructive viruses. I do not recommended it against covid19 for that reason. It is not particularly dangerous. Indeed, this seems to be the mildest virus discovered in the SARS/Covid series. The procedure is intrusive, but not as bad as aggressive antibiotics which might be otherwise required.

You CAN buy such a light (there's a model currently on sale at Home Depot) that is effective against viruses and bacteria. It can be used on countertops, desks, or anywhere you want to sterilize. It is sold as a 'cell phone disinfection' light. It's cheaper to simply buy the LED's and make your own. UV-A LEDs are commonplace. Such lights are also used to sterilize hospital equipment and pool water, including hot tub water without the use of chemicals (pools use a transparent tube that the water is pumped through surrounded by such light.
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Just like your idiot, dear leader's comment, I don't even have a reply for a comment as moronic as this.
 
no worries said:
So, getting a refund because of a tax cut isn't spending?
That's still an expenditure.
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lol are you STILL mixed up on expenditures vs. revenues?

a refund is just that - on the REVENUE already rec'd. it is not spending. it's a partial return on revenue received
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Socialist economies can be democracies, but they don't last in the long run because eventually the money runs out and the public-at-large throws the Socialists out of office and switches back to a more Capitalist system.
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Ah, so is that why South Korea and Japan and Germany and Scandiavian countries don't exist today? Or do they exist and are not dysfunctional?
 
no worries said:
Not like teabaggers or their dear leader, they think, just because they don't pay taxes, it makes them smart but want everyone ELSE to pay.
“The only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax,” Clinton said at the time. Trump responded: “That makes me smart.”

The president said that he is a better steward of his own money than the government. “It would be squandered, too, believe me,”

Just like Dotard squandered his $450 million inheritance.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Seriously????
 
no worries said:
Yeah, I'm also dealing with lying, morons, like you.

Where do you think the $$$ came from for our interstate highway system?
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Taxpayers. The Federal Highway fund is funded through gas taxes and overweight load taxes (fees).
no worries said:
"After Dwight D. Eisenhower became president in 1953, his administration developed a proposal for an interstate highway system, eventually resulting in the passage of the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956. Construction of the Interstate Highway System was proclaimed complete in 1992, though some planned routes were canceled and several routes have stretches that do not fully conform with federal standards. The cost of construction of the Interstate Highway System was approximately $114 billion (equivalent to $530 billion in 2019). The original system has been expanded numerous times through the creation of new designations and the extension of existing designations".

"Though much of their construction was funded by the federal government, Interstate Highways are owned by the state in which they were built".
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State highways are also funded by taxpayers, typically property taxes and gas taxes.
no worries said:
The government provides the money, then collects taxes for it, why do you think we have deficits?
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Not because of the federal highway system. We have a deficit because government spends more money than is taken by taxes.
no worries said:
Where did you study "gubmint"? Trump U.?
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False authority fallacy. You don't have to have a course in government to understand government.
 
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Originally Posted by Into the Night
A tax cut is not spending. Spending is spending. Doublespeak.


A ledger doesn't care. The budget bottom line is the same.
 
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