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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics#Mechanisms


Several types of epigenetic inheritance systems may play a role in what has become known as cell memory,[41] note however that not all of these are universally accepted to be examples of epigenetics.


Covalent modifications[edit]
Covalent modifications of either DNA (e.g. cytosine methylation and hydroxymethylation) or of histone proteins (e.g. lysine acetylation, lysine and arginine methylation, serine and threonine phosphorylation, and lysine ubiquitination and sumoylation) play central roles in many types of epigenetic inheritance. Therefore, the word "epigenetics" is sometimes used as a synonym for these processes. However, this can be misleading. Chromatin remodeling is not always inherited, and not all epigenetic inheritance involves chromatin remodeling.[42]




DNA associates with histone proteins to form chromatin.
Because the phenotype of a cell or individual is affected by which of its genes are transcribed, heritable transcription states can give rise to epigenetic effects. There are several layers of regulation of gene expression. One way that genes are regulated is through the remodeling of chromatin. Chromatin is the complex of DNA and the histone proteins with which it associates. If the way that DNA is wrapped around the histones changes, gene expression can change as well. Chromatin remodeling is accomplished through two main mechanisms:


The first way is post translational modification of the amino acids that make up histone proteins. Histone proteins are made up of long chains of amino acids. If the amino acids that are in the chain are changed, the shape of the histone might be modified. DNA is not completely unwound during replication. It is possible, then, that the modified histones may be carried into each new copy of the DNA. Once there, these histones may act as templates, initiating the surrounding new histones to be shaped in the new manner. By altering the shape of the histones around them, these modified histones would ensure that a lineage-specific transcription program is maintained after cell division.
The second way is the addition of methyl groups to the DNA, mostly at CpG sites, to convert cytosine to 5-methylcytosine. 5-Methylcytosine performs much like a regular cytosine, pairing with a guanine in double-stranded DNA. However, some areas of the genome are methylated more heavily than others, and highly methylated areas tend to be less transcriptionally active, through a mechanism not fully understood. Methylation of cytosines can also persist from the germ line of one of the parents into the zygote, marking the chromosome as being inherited from one parent or the other (genetic imprinting).
Mechanisms of heritability of histone state are not well understood; however, much is known about the mechanism of heritability of DNA methylation state during cell division and differentiation. Heritability of methylation state depends on certain enzymes (such as DNMT1) that have a higher affinity for 5-methylcytosine than for cytosine. If this enzyme reaches a "hemimethylated" portion of DNA (where 5-methylcytosine is in only one of the two DNA strands) the enzyme will methylate the other half.[43]


Although histone modifications occur throughout the entire sequence, the unstructured N-termini of histones (called histone tails) are particularly highly modified. These modifications include acetylation, methylation, ubiquitylation, phosphorylation, sumoylation, ribosylation and citrullination. Acetylation is the most highly studied of these modifications. For example, acetylation of the K14 and K9 lysines of the tail of histone H3 by histone acetyltransferase enzymes (HATs) is generally related to transcriptional competence.[citation needed]


One mode of thinking is that this tendency of acetylation to be associated with "active" transcription is biophysical in nature. Because it normally has a positively charged nitrogen at its end, lysine can bind the negatively charged phosphates of the DNA backbone. The acetylation event converts the positively charged amine group on the side chain into a neutral amide linkage. This removes the positive charge, thus loosening the DNA from the histone. When this occurs, complexes like SWI/SNF and other transcriptional factors can bind to the DNA and allow transcription to occur. This is the "cis" model of epigenetic function. In other words, changes to the histone tails have a direct effect on the DNA itself.[citation needed]


Another model of epigenetic function is the "trans" model. In this model, changes to the histone tails act indirectly on the DNA. For example, lysine acetylation may create a binding site for chromatin-modifying enzymes (or transcription machinery as well). This chromatin remodeler can then cause changes to the state of the chromatin. Indeed, a bromodomain — a protein domain that specifically binds acetyl-lysine — is found in many enzymes that help activate transcription, including the SWI/SNF complex. It may be that acetylation acts in this and the previous way to aid in transcriptional activation.


The idea that modifications act as docking modules for related factors is borne out by histone methylation as well. Methylation of lysine 9 of histone H3 has long been associated with constitutively transcriptionally silent chromatin (constitutive heterochromatin). It has been determined that a chromodomain (a domain that specifically binds methyl-lysine) in the transcriptionally repressive protein HP1 recruits HP1 to K9 methylated regions. One example that seems to refute this biophysical model for methylation is that tri-methylation of histone H3 at lysine 4 is strongly associated with (and required for full) transcriptional activation. Tri-methylation in this case would introduce a fixed positive charge on the tail.


It has been shown that the histone lysine methyltransferase (KMT) is responsible for this methylation activity in the pattern of histones H3 & H4. This enzyme utilizes a catalytically active site called the SET domain (Suppressor of variegation, Enhancer of zeste, Trithorax). The SET domain is a 130-amino acid sequence involved in modulating gene activities. This domain has been demonstrated to bind to the histone tail and causes the methylation of the histone.[44]


Differing histone modifications are likely to function in differing ways; acetylation at one position is likely to function differently from acetylation at another position. Also, multiple modifications may occur at the same time, and these modifications may work together to change the behavior of the nucleosome. The idea that multiple dynamic modifications regulate gene transcription in a systematic and reproducible way is called the histone code, although the idea that histone state can be read linearly as a digital information carrier has been largely debunked. One of the best-understood systems that orchestrates chromatin-based silencing is the SIR protein based silencing of the yeast hidden mating type loci HML and HMR.


DNA methylation frequently occurs in repeated sequences, and helps to suppress the expression and mobility of 'transposable elements':[45] Because 5-methylcytosine can be spontaneously deaminated (replacing nitrogen by oxygen) to thymidine, CpG sites are frequently mutated and become rare in the genome, except at CpG islands where they remain unmethylated. Epigenetic changes of this type thus have the potential to direct increased frequencies of permanent genetic mutation. DNA methylation patterns are known to be established and modified in response to environmental factors by a complex interplay of at least three independent DNA methyltransferases, DNMT1, DNMT3A, and DNMT3B, the loss of any of which is lethal in mice.[46] DNMT1 is the most abundant methyltransferase in somatic cells,[47] localizes to replication foci,[48] has a 10–40-fold preference for hemimethylated DNA and interacts with the proliferating cell nuclear antigen (PCNA).[49]


By preferentially modifying hemimethylated DNA, DNMT1 transfers patterns of methylation to a newly synthesized strand after DNA replication, and therefore is often referred to as the ‘maintenance' methyltransferase.[50] DNMT1 is essential for proper embryonic development, imprinting and X-inactivation.[46][51] To emphasize the difference of this molecular mechanism of inheritance from the canonical Watson-Crick base-pairing mechanism of transmission of genetic information, the term 'Epigenetic templating' was introduced.[52] Furthermore, in addition to the maintenance and transmission of methylated DNA states, the same principle could work in the maintenance and transmission of histone modifications and even cytoplasmic (structural) heritable states.[53]


Histones H3 and H4 can also be manipulated through demethylation using histone lysine demethylase (KDM). This recently identified enzyme has a catalytically active site called the Jumonji domain (JmjC). The demethylation occurs when JmjC utilizes multiple cofactors to hydroxylate the methyl group, thereby removing it. JmjC is capable of demethylating mono-, di-, and tri-methylated substrates.[54]


Chromosomal regions can adopt stable and heritable alternative states resulting in bistable gene expression without changes to the DNA sequence. Epigenetic control is often associated with alternative covalent modifications of histones.[55] The stability and heritability of states of larger chromosomal regions are suggested to involve positive feedback where modified nucleosomes recruit enzymes that similarly modify nearby nucleosomes.[56] A simplified stochastic model for this type of epigenetics is found here.[57][58]


It has been suggested that chromatin-based transcriptional regulation could be mediated by the effect of small RNAs. Small interfering RNAs can modulate transcriptional gene expression via epigenetic modulation of targeted promoters.[59]


RNA transcripts[edit]
Sometimes a gene, after being turned on, transcribes a product that (directly or indirectly) maintains the activity of that gene. For example, Hnf4 and MyoD enhance the transcription of many liver- and muscle-specific genes, respectively, including their own, through the transcription factor activity of the proteins they encode. RNA signalling includes differential recruitment of a hierarchy of generic chromatin modifying complexes and DNA methyltransferases to specific loci by RNAs during differentiation and development.[60] Other epigenetic changes are mediated by the production of different splice forms of RNA, or by formation of double-stranded RNA (RNAi). Descendants of the cell in which the gene was turned on will inherit this activity, even if the original stimulus for gene-activation is no longer present. These genes are often turned on or off by signal transduction, although in some systems where syncytia or gap junctions are important, RNA may spread directly to other cells or nuclei by diffusion. A large amount of RNA and protein is contributed to the zygote by the mother during oogenesis or via nurse cells, resulting in maternal effect phenotypes. A smaller quantity of sperm RNA is transmitted from the father, but there is recent evidence that this epigenetic information can lead to visible changes in several generations of offspring.[61]


MicroRNAs[edit]
MicroRNAs (miRNAs) are members of non-coding RNAs that range in size from 17 to 25 nucleotides. miRNAs regulate a large variety of biological functions in plants and animals.[62] So far, in 2013, about 2000 miRNAs have been discovered in humans and these can be found online in a miRNA database.[63] Each miRNA expressed in a cell may target about 100 to 200 messenger RNAs that it downregulates.[64] Most of the downregulation of mRNAs occurs by causing the decay of the targeted mRNA, while some downregulation occurs at the level of translation into protein.[65]


It appears that about 60% of human protein coding genes are regulated by miRNAs.[66] Many miRNAs are epigenetically regulated. About 50% of miRNA genes are associated with CpG islands,[62] that may be repressed by epigenetic methylation. Transcription from methylated CpG islands is strongly and heritably repressed.[67] Other miRNAs are epigenetically regulated by either histone modifications or by combined DNA methylation and histone modification.[62]


mRNA[edit]
In 2011, it was demonstrated that the methylation of mRNA plays a critical role in human energy homeostasis. The obesity-associated FTO gene is shown to be able to demethylate N6-methyladenosine in RNA.[68][69]


sRNAs[edit]
sRNAs are small (50–250 nucleotides), highly structured, non-coding RNA fragments found in bacteria. They control gene expression including virulence genes in pathogens and are viewed as new targets in the fight against drug-resistant bacteria.[70] They play an important role in many biological processes, binding to mRNA and protein targets in prokaryotes. Their phylogenetic analyses, for example through sRNA–mRNA target interactions or protein binding properties, are used to build comprehensive databases.[71] sRNA-gene maps based on their targets in microbial genomes are also constructed.[72]


Prions[edit]
For more details on this topic, see Fungal prions.
Prions are infectious forms of proteins. In general, proteins fold into discrete units that perform distinct cellular functions, but some proteins are also capable of forming an infectious conformational state known as a prion. Although often viewed in the context of infectious disease, prions are more loosely defined by their ability to catalytically convert other native state versions of the same protein to an infectious conformational state. It is in this latter sense that they can be viewed as epigenetic agents capable of inducing a phenotypic change without a modification of the genome.[73]


Fungal prions are considered by some to be epigenetic because the infectious phenotype caused by the prion can be inherited without modification of the genome. PSI+ and URE3, discovered in yeast in 1965 and 1971, are the two best studied of this type of prion.[74][75] Prions can have a phenotypic effect through the sequestration of protein in aggregates, thereby reducing that protein's activity. In PSI+ cells, the loss of the Sup35 protein (which is involved in termination of translation) causes ribosomes to have a higher rate of read-through of stop codons, an effect that results in suppression of nonsense mutations in other genes.[76] The ability of Sup35 to form prions may be a conserved trait. It could confer an adaptive advantage by giving cells the ability to switch into a PSI+ state and express dormant genetic features normally terminated by stop codon mutations.[77][78][79][80]


Structural inheritance[edit]
For more details on this topic, see Structural inheritance.
In ciliates such as Tetrahymena and Paramecium, genetically identical cells show heritable differences in the patterns of ciliary rows on their cell surface. Experimentally altered patterns can be transmitted to daughter cells. It seems existing structures act as templates for new structures. The mechanisms of such inheritance are unclear, but reasons exist to assume that multicellular organisms also use existing cell structures to assemble new ones.[81][82][83]


Nucleosome positioning[edit]
Eukaryotic genomes have numerous nucleosomes. Nucleosome position is not random, and determine the accessibility of DNA to regulatory proteins. This determines differences in gene expression and cell differentiation. It has been shown that at least some nucleosomes are retained in sperm cells (where most but not all histones are replaced by protamines). Thus nucleosome positioning is to some degree inheritable. Recent studies have uncovered connections between nucleosome positioning and other epigenetic factors, such as DNA methylation and hydroxymethylation [84]

Sorry kid, but none of that conveys how the learned memory of pain associated with cherry blossoms, can travel into sperm, or eggs which is what is needed for the offspring to exhibit the same psychological trait that it's parent learned as a matter of a life experience that generated a severely negative memory. How are these encoded into the four DNA bases? which are, adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G) and thymine (T). Based on our current knowledge that DNA is set at the moment of conception, this is not possible. Which only means that our understanding is wrong.
 
It isn't a scientific theory and lots of people believing it doesn't make it so.

Actually many scientist are currently working very hard on leaving the Earth, just as a short time ago they were intent on crossing oceans. It is totally credible that other scientist are trying to get here, or are already here.
 
To put it simply if the hypothesis doesn't make testable predictions based on empirical evidence and natural causation it simply isn't science.

No, it isn't. A Creator can not be bound by the laws of physics or a time space continuum, so looking for the answer there is a non-starter.

To create matter you have to have a place to put it, and a time to set it there.

"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the Earth (matter)."

A Supreme Being that is bound by the laws of physics is not one that is particularly awe inspiring.
 
How are these encoded into the four DNA bases? which are, adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G) and thymine (T). Based on our current knowledge that DNA is set at the moment of conception, this is not possible. Which only means that our understanding is wrong.


They are not, moron. The idea is that they affect gene expression.

The events that triggered an epigenetic mechanism preceded conception.

*Epigenetics are stable heritable traits (or "phenotypes") that cannot be explained by changes in DNA sequence.[1] The Greek prefix epi- (Greek: επί- over, outside of, around) in epigenetics implies features that are "on top of" or "in addition to" the traditional genetic basis for inheritance.[2] Epigenetics often refers to changes in a chromosome that affect gene activity and expression, but can also be used to describe any heritable phenotypic change that doesn't derive from a modification of the genome, such as prions. Such effects on cellular and physiological phenotypic traits may result from external or environmental factors, or be part of normal developmental program. The standard definition of epigenetic requires these alterations to be heritable,[3][4] either in the progeny of cells or of organisms.
 
No, it isn't. A Creator can not be bound by the laws of physics or a time space continuum, so looking for the answer there is a non-starter.

To create matter you have to have a place to put it, and a time to set it there.

"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the Earth (matter)."

A Supreme Being that is bound by the laws of physics is not one that is particularly awe inspiring.

I think the Telletubbies are on channel 258
 
Oh, I'm sure you *know* they are.

You certainly haven't a clue as to what I just said.

You were babbling about time space continuums and supreme beings named Q from Star Trek.................

Bye the way, all human creators are bound by physics, even though physics is not fully understood. There is no reason to say that God would be any different.
 
You were babbling about time space continuums and supreme beings named Q from Star Trek.................

Bye the way, all human creators are bound by physics, even though physics is not fully understood. There is no reason to say that God would be any different.

I was right.

You hadn't a clue.

You may continue with your gibberish now.
 
I was right.

You hadn't a clue.

You may continue with your gibberish now.

Well since this is exactly what you said, I will let its idiocy stand on it's own.

Quote"No, it isn't. A Creator can not be bound by the laws of physics or a time space continuum, so looking for the answer there is a non-starter.

To create matter you have to have a place to put it, and a time to set it there.

"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the Earth (matter)."

A Supreme Being that is bound by the laws of physics is not one that is particularly awe inspiring." End Quote

How many children do you have? have you ever had sex with the opposite sex? Or are you just content with understanding the supreme being?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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How many children do you have? have you ever had sex with the opposite sex? Or are you just content with understanding the supreme being?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Astounding.

You strut around like a peacock that is oblivious to the fact that all of his feathers have been plucked.

:awesome:
 
Astounding.

You strut around like a peacock that is oblivious to the fact that all of his feathers have been plucked.

:awesome:

So you can tell us how memories are passed down to the next generation................Great please explain how the cherry blossom smell gets from parent to offspring, we await your glorious influx of knowledge.

GO
 
So you can tell us how memories are passed down to the next generation................Great please explain how the cherry blossom smell gets from parent to offspring, we await your glorious influx of knowledge.

GO

I have no idea. I was about to say you were discussing an interesting topic, but then you jumped down my throat after half-assing your way through my post.

So, drop dead.
 
So you can tell us how memories are passed down to the next generation................Great please explain how the cherry blossom smell gets from parent to offspring, we await your glorious influx of knowledge.

GO

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v17/n1/full/nn.3594.html

Using olfactory molecular specificity, we examined the inheritance of parental traumatic exposure, a phenomenon that has been frequently observed, but not understood. We subjected F0 mice to odor fear conditioning before conception and found that subsequently conceived F1 and F2 generations had an increased behavioral sensitivity to the F0-conditioned odor, but not to other odors. When an odor (acetophenone) that activates a known odorant receptor (Olfr151) was used to condition F0 mice, the behavioral sensitivity of the F1 and F2 generations to acetophenone was complemented by an enhanced neuroanatomical representation of the Olfr151 pathway. Bisulfite sequencing of sperm DNA from conditioned F0 males and F1 naive offspring revealed CpG hypomethylation in the Olfr151 gene. In addition, in vitro fertilization, F2 inheritance and cross-fostering revealed that these transgenerational effects are inherited via parental gametes. Our findings provide a framework for addressing how environmental information may be inherited transgenerationally at behavioral, neuroanatomical and epigenetic levels.
 
http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v17/n1/full/nn.3594.html

Using olfactory molecular specificity, we examined the inheritance of parental traumatic exposure, a phenomenon that has been frequently observed, but not understood. We subjected F0 mice to odor fear conditioning before conception and found that subsequently conceived F1 and F2 generations had an increased behavioral sensitivity to the F0-conditioned odor, but not to other odors. When an odor (acetophenone) that activates a known odorant receptor (Olfr151) was used to condition F0 mice, the behavioral sensitivity of the F1 and F2 generations to acetophenone was complemented by an enhanced neuroanatomical representation of the Olfr151 pathway. Bisulfite sequencing of sperm DNA from conditioned F0 males and F1 naive offspring revealed CpG hypomethylation in the Olfr151 gene. In addition, in vitro fertilization, F2 inheritance and cross-fostering revealed that these transgenerational effects are inherited via parental gametes. Our findings provide a framework for addressing how environmental information may be inherited transgenerationally at behavioral, neuroanatomical and epigenetic levels.

Sorry kid, all you just posted is work concerning the observations that this happens, it's been agreed that it happens. Can you grasp that the fact that no where did you specify how it happens, which would have to include how sperm DNA is adjusted to include traumatic memories? Pretty much everyone agrees that it happens, but it is actually becoming clearer every day that we know very little about DNA, or memories, or even what exactly we are.....................
 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...-certain-smells-from-their-parents-180948096/

In an experiment reminiscent of A Clockwork Orange, researchers trained male mice to fear a cherry blossom-like scent called acetophenone by inducing slight electric shocks every time the smell wafted into the animals' cages. After ten days of this treatment, whenever cherry blossoms were in the air, they report, the mice trained to fear it went on edge. The researchers found that those mice developed more smell receptors associated with that particular scent, which allowed them to detect it at lower concentrations. Additionally, when researchers examined those males' sperm they found that the gene responsible for acetophenone detection was packaged differently compared to the same gene in control mice.


After imprinting those males with a fear of acetophenone, the researchers inseminated females with the scared mice's sperm. The baby mice never met their father, but those sired by a blossom-hating dad had more acetophenone smell receptors. Compared to pups born of other dads, most were also agitated when acetophenone filled the air. This same finding held true for those original males' grandpups.
 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...-certain-smells-from-their-parents-180948096/

In an experiment reminiscent of A Clockwork Orange, researchers trained male mice to fear a cherry blossom-like scent called acetophenone by inducing slight electric shocks every time the smell wafted into the animals' cages. After ten days of this treatment, whenever cherry blossoms were in the air, they report, the mice trained to fear it went on edge. The researchers found that those mice developed more smell receptors associated with that particular scent, which allowed them to detect it at lower concentrations. Additionally, when researchers examined those males' sperm they found that the gene responsible for acetophenone detection was packaged differently compared to the same gene in control mice.


After imprinting those males with a fear of acetophenone, the researchers inseminated females with the scared mice's sperm. The baby mice never met their father, but those sired by a blossom-hating dad had more acetophenone smell receptors. Compared to pups born of other dads, most were also agitated when acetophenone filled the air. This same finding held true for those original males' grandpups.

Kid this is quite impossible, because cherry blossoms were chosen because mice had no previous affiliations with them. That is to say that mice do not have a gene to respond to every smell, or the cherry blossom smell, and if they did there would be no way to determine which gene this was. DNA holds genetic information of the individual, not of other individuals or plants if you are a mammal. You are now being comical and seem to be panicking...............but it's funny as can be.
 
Sorry kid, all you just posted is work concerning the observations that this happens, it's been agreed that it happens. Can you grasp that the fact that no where did you specify how it happens, which would have to include how sperm DNA is adjusted to include traumatic memories? Pretty much everyone agrees that it happens, but it is actually becoming clearer every day that we know very little about DNA, or memories, or even what exactly we are.....................


Dumbass, the last sentence suggests how. They also detected changes in the sperm in the gene expected. Is the how suggested fully understood or proven, no, but you are pretending that they have no idea.

Again, the highly intelligent people who did this experiment have no idea what to do next.

Not at all true.

It has nothing to do with a literal memory. Nowhere was that suggested.
 
Kid this is quite impossible, because cherry blossoms were chosen because mice had no previous affiliations with them. That is to say that mice do not have a gene to respond to every smell, or the cherry blossom smell, and if they did there would be no way to determine which gene this was. DNA holds genetic information of the individual, not of other individuals or plants if you are a mammal. You are now being comical and seem to be panicking...............but it's funny as can be.


Wrong, mice are known to have a response to the odor (see bold). They did determine what gene (Olfr151) it would effect. They witnessed the effect (see italicized) on sperm.

Using olfactory molecular specificity, we examined the inheritance of parental traumatic exposure, a phenomenon that has been frequently observed, but not understood. We subjected F0 mice to odor fear conditioning before conception and found that subsequently conceived F1 and F2 generations had an increased behavioral sensitivity to the F0-conditioned odor, but not to other odors. When an odor (acetophenone) that activates a known odorant receptor (Olfr151) was used to condition F0 mice, the behavioral sensitivity of the F1 and F2 generations to acetophenone was complemented by an enhanced neuroanatomical representation of the Olfr151 pathway. Bisulfite sequencing of sperm DNA from conditioned F0 males and F1 naive offspring revealed CpG hypomethylation in the Olfr151 gene. In addition, in vitro fertilization, F2 inheritance and cross-fostering revealed that these transgenerational effects are inherited via parental gametes. Our findings provide a framework for addressing how environmental information may be inherited transgenerationally at behavioral, neuroanatomical and epigenetic levels.
 
Dumbass, the last sentence suggests how. They also detected changes in the sperm in the gene expected. Is the how suggested fully understood or proven, no, but you are pretending that they have no idea.



Not at all true.

It has nothing to do with a literal memory. Nowhere was that suggested.

Kid it has everything to do with the memory of the parent mouse, which is so negative that a life preservation mechanism transmits the information contained in this memory to the offspring. The offspring may well not be receiving a memory but clearly respond to the memory that was contained in the parent so a memory is part of the equation. Since at one point the mouse was nothing more than a zygote all the info came from that and modern science neither has a clue how this happens or any idea how to look for sperm changes in an individual resulting from bad experiences. In fact evolutionary theory dictates that changes in DNA are random and that they occur over long periods of time. This experiment blows that out of the water as this change happens in one generation, even though the change is not permanent................
 
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