Be as smart as a Liberal... It's EASY!

It has everything to do with saving money, moron.

No it doesn't, stop lying to people. This has not a damn thing to do with saving money and you know it.

It wouldn't matter if this thing cost $100 trillion! You don't give a shit how much it costs or is going to cost!

This is about Communist-Socialist Wealth Redistribution, by putting the Government in charge of 1/6th of our economy.
 
No it doesn't, stop lying to people. This has not a damn thing to do with saving money and you know it.

It wouldn't matter if this thing cost $100 trillion! You don't give a shit how much it costs or is going to cost!

This is about Communist-Socialist Wealth Redistribution, by putting the Government in charge of 1/6th of our economy.

You are the one lying you hypocrite!
You wish to preserve the status quo, that 1/6 (soon to be 1/5) of our economy is in the hands of capitalists so greedy that they ROUTINELY deny life saving care to consumers, yet pay a CEO A BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS FOR A YEARS EFFORT.

Of course it is about saving money you frigging retard. At the present rate of growth our healthcare system will soon swamp our entire economy. Stop being a partisan idiot.
 
You are the one lying you hypocrite!

Nothing I have stated here is a lie or hypocritical. Sorry.

You wish to preserve the status quo,

No, I wish to have sensible reforms to our system and get rid of the job-killing Obamacare tax.

that 1/6 (soon to be 1/5) of our economy is in the hands of capitalists

YES! CAPITALISTS! NOT GOVERNMENT!

so greedy that they ROUTINELY deny life saving care to consumers

BULLSHIT... THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW, PUNISHABLE BY FINE AND/OR IMPRISONMENT, AND PROBABLY SUBJECT TO LEGAL REMEDY, IF IT HAPPENS! Hospitals in EVERY SINGLE STATE are MANDATED to provide care regardless of ability to pay. REGARDLESS! Got that moron???

yet pay a CEO A BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS FOR A YEARS EFFORT.

No CEO makes a billion dollars a year, but I don't care if they DO, it's not my business what a corporation pays their CEO! They are the brains who RUN the freaking company! If the company does well and is successful under that CEO, then maybe he deserves whatever they wish to pay him? That's not for me or you to determine, is it?

Of course it is about saving money you frigging retard.

No it isn't you fucking Marxist! Stop LYING through your shit-stained teeth about it! Our premiums will go up DRAMATICALLY! The cost of a doctor's visit will increase DRAMATICALLY! The typical cost of a hospital stay will increase DRAMATICALLY! Our tax rates will have to go up DRAMATICALLY! BUT YOU DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS! YOU NEVER HAVE! THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAVING MONEY!
 

I tried to verify your claim by calling the ONE clinic which supposedly serves Cape Cod (pop. 220,000).
The answering service which answered my call could answer no questions. I will resume researching this monday.
 
Nothing I have stated here is a lie or hypocritical. Sorry.

In your opinion only.



No, I wish to have sensible reforms to our system and get rid of the job-killing Obamacare tax.


No, you just think it is sensible to have 50 million people uninsured.




YES! CAPITALISTS! NOT GOVERNMENT!

If the gov. can do a better job cheaper (look to medicare for a perfect example)





BULLSHIT... THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW, PUNISHABLE BY FINE AND/OR IMPRISONMENT, AND PROBABLY SUBJECT TO LEGAL REMEDY, IF IT HAPPENS! Hospitals in EVERY SINGLE STATE are MANDATED to provide care regardless of ability to pay. REGARDLESS! Got that moron???

Hospitals (publicly owned only, the law does not apply to private hospitals) can not deny emergency services, however, insurance companies can and do routinely refuse to pay the bills.



No CEO makes a billion dollars a year, but I don't care if they DO, it's not my business what a corporation pays their CEO! They are the brains who RUN the freaking company! If the company does well and is successful under that CEO, then maybe he deserves whatever they wish to pay him? That's not for me or you to determine, is it?

Yes, a CEO was paid a billion for one year. Sorry about your ignorance. No one is worth that kind of money, and it is everybody's business.



No it isn't you fucking Marxist! Stop LYING through your shit-stained teeth about it! Our premiums will go up DRAMATICALLY! The cost of a doctor's visit will increase DRAMATICALLY! The typical cost of a hospital stay will increase DRAMATICALLY! Our tax rates will have to go up DRAMATICALLY! BUT YOU DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS! YOU NEVER HAVE! THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAVING MONEY!

Without massive reform, our economy will soon collapse under the enormous burdern of private. for profit health insurance.
That you can't grasp the simple economic principles involved does NOT make me a marxist.
 
LOL@Runed... Funny that you are just now discovering public health care clinics.

Did you honestly not know these existed?

During periods of times of my wife's un-employment I have been without health insurance. At these times, I have gone to the emergency room when in dire need.
If I had known of other free care I would have utilized it, since, when the hospital tries to collect the bill, I must pay if I am working, so why would I want to pay $10,000
(the amount I owed from the last time I visited the emergency room with chest pains), when I could have owed only a couple hundred?
 
Does your bicycle go forward too?

You backpedal so much, I'm guessing it doesn't.

To recap....free clinics are all that's necessary for low income people, because they do everything.....for free.

Unless they can't do it, and then they refer you to a specialist.

I can imagine how that sign in will go.

Thick-ass denial in Dixieland.
 
During periods of times of my wife's un-employment I have been without health insurance. At these times, I have gone to the emergency room when in dire need.
If I had known of other free care I would have utilized it, since, when the hospital tries to collect the bill, I must pay if I am working, so why would I want to pay $10,000
(the amount I owed from the last time I visited the emergency room with chest pains), when I could have owed only a couple hundred?

Do you know how many times I have been to the emergency room in my entire LIFE? NEVER, personally... and only ONCE related to family. Now, I know that's probably the exception and not the rule, and there have been lots of times when I could have gone to the ER, but didn't. The point is, I found another option, even when I didn't have insurance. Our towns here in lowly Alabama, have dozens of 'urgent care' facilities... I call them "Doc-in-the-Box" ...they are open 24/7 and usually just as suitable as an ER for dealing with minor injuries, illnesses and such. I think I paid $55 the last time I visited, I had a severe sinus infection. I have had dental work done at the UAB School of Dentistry. A crown and root canal cost me $85 vs. $800 at the regular dentist. Again, no insurance, no problem!

Most people can find a way to cope and get by... Liberals for some reason, think that government is supposed to come wipe your ass for you.
 
Do you know how many times I have been to the emergency room in my entire LIFE? NEVER, personally... and only ONCE related to family. Now, I know that's probably the exception and not the rule, and there have been lots of times when I could have gone to the ER, but didn't. The point is, I found another option, even when I didn't have insurance. Our towns here in lowly Alabama, have dozens of 'urgent care' facilities... I call them "Doc-in-the-Box" ...they are open 24/7 and usually just as suitable as an ER for dealing with minor injuries, illnesses and such. I think I paid $55 the last time I visited, I had a severe sinus infection. I have had dental work done at the UAB School of Dentistry. A crown and root canal cost me $85 vs. $800 at the regular dentist. Again, no insurance, no problem!

Most people can find a way to cope and get by... Liberals for some reason, think that government is supposed to come wipe your ass for you.

Arround here, when an ambulance driver thinks you are having a heart attack, they take you to the emergency room, and I am not getting it for free, it cost me $11,400., but keep being an asshole, you are awfully good at it.
 
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Well it's good you found an answer, Althea... now maybe you can come up with something that is actually bought and sold?


Here's the question again, for all the pinheads who missed it the first time:
Name something "the taxpayer" doesn't ultimately pay for?

You see... no matter what you come up with (except sarcasm), you'll find taxpayers are paying for it. Now, you might say, what about the poor welfare mom? Well, where does her monies come from? What about the unemployed? Again... where does their money come from? Even people who's incomes are low and they don't pay income tax, they still pay a payroll tax and SSI... so they too, are taxpayers. Virtually everything under the sun that is purchased, is bought by a taxpayer. This is an important point to remember when you are arguing for Socialism by pointing to all the things taxpayers pay for.
 
Arround here, when an ambulance driver thinks you are having a heart attack, they take you to the emergency room, and I am not getting it for free, it cost me $11,400., but keep being an asshole, you are awfully good at it.

Well that's because you are stupid, and too ignorant of public health clinics. That's not MY problem, is it?

And why did you opt to take an ambulance ride, instead of having someone take you to a free clinic? That joyride probably cost you several hundred dollars, as opposed to virtually nothing, had you used your brains. Again... not my fault, and I shouldn't be forced to pay for it. You're not as smart as I am, you aren't going to go out there and find the least expensive way to do things, and this isn't going to change when I am providing your health care, is it? Oh no.. you'll be enjoying "free" ambulance rides all the time, when you don't have to pay for them anymore! But guess who gets to pay for your ignorance and stupidity... the taxpayer!
 
Well that's because you are stupid, and too ignorant of public health clinics. That's not MY problem, is it?

And why did you opt to take an ambulance ride, instead of having someone take you to a free clinic? That joyride probably cost you several hundred dollars, as opposed to virtually nothing, had you used your brains. Again... not my fault, and I shouldn't be forced to pay for it. You're not as smart as I am, you aren't going to go out there and find the least expensive way to do things, and this isn't going to change when I am providing your health care, is it? Oh no.. you'll be enjoying "free" ambulance rides all the time, when you don't have to pay for them anymore! But guess who gets to pay for your ignorance and stupidity... the taxpayer!

Stop being such a fucking idiot. I have congestive heart failure, along with a host of other cardiac ailments. When someone calls an ambulance due to symptoms I am exhibiting, and the drivers concur, I go along. Resisting medical help during a heart or stroke situtation is a typical male reaction which generally leads to death.

Again, I am paying the bill, NOT you or the tax payers, you judgemental piece of shit.
 
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