California real estate is so expensive that families, retirees, and even tech workers

evince said:
every place needs entrance workers and housing for the fixed income people like the retired


we could do low impact housing like mobile housing.



think tiny homes


places that can be shuffled around as needed

have a heart


In my experience poor people are some of the nicest people
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Of course we COULD, but we made a different decision as a society, we decided we'd rather militarily occupy the planet with endless wars. The Pentagon can't account for $21T worth of spending from 1998-2015. Perhaps you heard about that on TV, but then again, maybe not.
 
evince said:
this is why I never sold my cali house when I moved to las vegas.

I knew I wanted to come back

I love having no house payment to live is some of the best weather in the world

Location, location, location
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Another greedy, wealthy elitist Socialist :palm:
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Coming to a community near you as wealth inequality marches ever onward, the new american landscape, we've had internal colonies forever.
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The most Socialist State in the Union has the largest income inequality gap :rofl2:
 
evince said:
see we need to up the minimum wage and build lost cost housing.


if you are willing to live in a car

how about building a mass of one room housing that include a kitchenette and a bath room


Low income housing should be a high priority
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Sooo, the government creates a problem, and the solution is.....moar government. You people are idiots.
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Bigdog said:
Another greedy, wealthy elitist Socialist :palm:
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I am a capitalist and believe it is the only way to freedom


it needs the proper fettering to work correctly without eating its self


you have nothing but lies left in you quiver


no arrows left


you are pointless
 
Capitalism keeps the money changing hands


properly fettered to fit the current situation of the world it keeps the power from concentrating into fewer and fewer hands.


fetter it correctly with regulations, tax policy and a good constitution and it creates a very fair system that honors the power of a better idea
 
evince said:
I am a capitalist and believe it is the only way to freedom


it needs the proper fettering to work correctly without eating its self


you have nothing but lies left in you quiver


no arrows left


you are pointless
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You're a greedy socialist princess piggy, ... unwilling to make personal sacrifice for those in need.
 
countryboy said:
Sooo, the government creates a problem, and the solution is.....moar government. You people are idiots.
:facepalm:
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I am not opposed to more government housing and at least one room studios/garden apartments isn't encouraging baby dropping for benefits. I don't support $15MW though. maybe something more reasonable like step it to $8 now, move to $8.75 in 3 years and $9.50 or $10 in a few years beyond that.
 
anonymoose said:
Me too. I once lived in a town in Kansas for about a yr. No traffic, no crime, great golf club, super nice polite people, and could've afforded a nice big Victorian house for the cost of Section 8 Housing. A real hellhole.
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If you look at real estate prices generally, they can be seen as measuring what people think is an appropriate ticket price for the privilege of living in a given place. Some places, like Manhattan, have their prices bid up to dizzying levels, because they have so very much going for them. Other places can only get people to buy in at fire-sale prices. Kansas may be a great destination for some, if they value what it has to offer. But, on average, the market has determined the experience of living there just doesn't have much value.
 
Oneuli said:
If you look at real estate prices generally, they can be seen as measuring what people think is an appropriate ticket price for the privilege of living in a given place. Some places, like Manhattan, have their prices bid up to dizzying levels, because they have so very much going for them. Other places can only get people to buy in at fire-sale prices. Kansas may be a great destination for some, if they value what it has to offer. But, on average, the market has determined the experience of living there just doesn't have much value.
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I've always been somewhat of a nonconformist. When I was a kid I didn't really feel like I fit in, the more popular kids probably thought I was weird or a geek, not that I cared. I happen to like simplicity and functionality which connects to my Taoist spirituality.
 
anonymoose said:
I've always been somewhat of a nonconformist. When I was a kid I didn't really feel like I fit in, the more popular kids probably thought I was weird or a geek, not that I cared. I happen to like simplicity and functionality which connects to my Taoist spirituality.
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Being unusual has its rewards, in that the more you value things others don't the greater your purchasing power, since the things that are valued more widely will have their price bid up. For example, if you prefer amateur velvet Elvis paintings to Rembrandts, then you can compile a huge art collection for next to no money.
 
evince said:
Capitalism keeps the money changing hands


properly fettered to fit the current situation of the world it keeps the power from concentrating into fewer and fewer hands.


fetter it correctly with regulations, tax policy and a good constitution and it creates a very fair system that honors the power of a better idea
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Central bankers are sitting on $21T love, and wars never end. Capitalism as practiced in america is a colonial wealth extraction paradigm predicated upon endless expansionism, extraction, concentration and redistribution of natural resources and societal wealth into the hands of a ruling industrial class.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Of course we COULD, but we made a different decision as a society, we decided we'd rather militarily occupy the planet with endless wars. The Pentagon can't account for $21T worth of spending from 1998-2015. Perhaps you heard about that on TV, but then again, maybe not.
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California policy to not allow new development has almost nothing to do with the federal government foreign policy
 
Oneuli said:
If you look at real estate prices generally, they can be seen as measuring what people think is an appropriate ticket price for the privilege of living in a given place. Some places, like Manhattan, have their prices bid up to dizzying levels, because they have so very much going for them. Other places can only get people to buy in at fire-sale prices. Kansas may be a great destination for some, if they value what it has to offer. But, on average, the market has determined the experience of living there just doesn't have much value.
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Not necessarily. Millions live in Florida and Texas and real estate prices aren't anywhere near what they are in Cali or NY. You're not looking at the policies that drive pricing so high. In California we have a combination of anti development (CEQA) laws and Prop 13 that discourage new building which forces prices up. In Texas, for example,when prices rise they just build more to meet the demand
 
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