College Football 2018 - minus the troll

WinterBorn said:
Nebraska continues its trend. At least they took it to OT today.

The Cornhuskers have no won a game since Oct 28, 2017. Ouch!
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How the mighty have fallen. 20 years ago the Huskers were a top 5 program. Tom Osborne retired and Nebraska has since never been able to adapt to the decline of the Wishbone offense and be competitive in the modern era of pro style passing oriented offenses, zone blitz defenses and spread offenses.

I’ve talked to Nebraska fans and they blame a lot of Nebraska’s decline on influential Alumni expecting instant results and resistance to modernizing. This has substantially impacted recruiting as top prospects no longer see Nebraska as a top school to prepare for the NFL.

Having said that in the long term I wouldn’t count Nebraska out. The days of them and Oklahoma dominating the Big 8/12 are long gone and the current Big 10 is far more competitive, top to bottom, than the Big 12 ever was. Scott Frost stepped into a situation where a lot of structural changes will need to happen for Nebraska to get back to an elite level and things had to get worse before they get better. I think Frost is a fine coach and that as long as they support his changes to the program and continue to invest in their program at an elite level, and they are, Nebraska will return to elite Status.
 
anonymoose said:
LSU 36. Georgia 16.
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Yahoo has already started beating the SEC bias drum. They have jumped LSU from #13 to #4 despite the fact that Notre Dame has a better record and a tougher schedule.

If LSWho was to beat Alabama and win the SEC Championship game and OSU, Clemson and Notre Dame go undefeated mark my word Yahoo and ESPN are going to lobby for Both Alabama and LSU to be in the playoff. Meaning at least one undefeated power team would be bumped.

That would make a mockery of the CFP.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yahoo has already started beating the SEC bias drum. They have jumped LSU from #13 to #4 despite the fact that Notre Dame has a better record and a tougher schedule.

If LSWho was to beat Alabama and win the SEC Championship game and OSU, Clemson and Notre Dame go undefeated mark my word Yahoo and ESPN are going to lobby for Both Alabama and LSU to be in the playoff. Meaning at least one undefeated power team would be bumped.

That would make a mockery of the CFP.
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I agree for the most part but the bias is for Alabama. They are the only team in the country to have the luxury of not having to win their conference championship as long as they only have one loss and they're in. And that's practically decided before the season starts.
I disagree with you about bama getting in ahead of an undefeated team though. They only get in when there's not enuf undefeated teams not called Central Florida to round out the CFP. I very seriously doubt an undefeated team from a power five conference would get bumped for a one loss bama team that didn't win the SEC championship. Has that ever happened? I don't think so.

Oh, and thank you for lending us Joe Burrow. We're making good use of him. Too bad OSU didn't.
 
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anonymoose said:
I agree for the most part but the bias is for Alabama. They are the only team in the country to have the luxury of not having to win their conference championship as long as they only have one loss and they're in. And that's practically decided before the season starts.
I disagree with you about bama getting in ahead of an undefeated team though. They only get in when there's not enuf undefeated teams not called Central Florida to round out the CFP. I very seriously doubt an undefeated team from a power five conference would get bumped for a one loss bama team that didn't win the SEC championship. Has that ever happened? I don't think so.

Oh, and thank you for lending us Joe Burrow. We're making good use of him. Too bad OSU didn't.
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We're happy to see Joe doing so well....
 
anonymoose said:
I agree for the most part but the bias is for Alabama. They are the only team in the country to have the luxury of not having to win their conference championship as long as they only have one loss and they're in. And that's practically decided before the season starts.
I disagree with you about bama getting in ahead of an undefeated team though. They only get in when there's not enuf undefeated teams not called Central Florida to round out the CFP. I very seriously doubt an undefeated team from a power five conference would get bumped for a one loss bama team that didn't win the SEC championship. Has that ever happened? I don't think so.


Oh, and thank you for lending us Joe Burrow. We're making good use of him. Too bad OSU didn't.
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"They are the only team in the country to have the luxury of not having to win their conference championship as long as they only have one loss and they're in."

Really? Try again. Hell, Bama wasn't even the first to do so.
 
anonymoose said:
Was that the yr they got creamed by Clemson?
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Despite what some people want, winning their conference has never been a requirement for the playoffs. Yes, the committee gives weight to doing so. But they are still trying to get the 4 best teams into a playoff.
 
WinterBorn said:
Despite what some people want, winning their conference has never been a requirement for the playoffs. Yes, the committee gives weight to doing so. But they are still trying to get the 4 best teams into a playoff.
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I know. It's not perfect but better than anything we've had.
 
anonymoose said:
At least there weren't two from that conference in the CFP. I just think it's overkill to have half the teams from one conference.
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I think, if the 4 best teams in the country include 2 from a single conference, that is who should be in the playoff.

And last year, the two teams from one conference beat the two other teams. One quite handily.
 
WinterBorn said:
I think, if the 4 best teams in the country include 2 from a single conference, that is who should be in the playoff.

And last year, the two teams from one conference beat the two other teams. One quite handily.
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That is true.
No one could claim SEC bias last yr.
 
anonymoose said:
I agree for the most part but the bias is for Alabama. They are the only team in the country to have the luxury of not having to win their conference championship as long as they only have one loss and they're in. And that's practically decided before the season starts.
I disagree with you about bama getting in ahead of an undefeated team though. They only get in when there's not enuf undefeated teams not called Central Florida to round out the CFP. I very seriously doubt an undefeated team from a power five conference would get bumped for a one loss bama team that didn't win the SEC championship. Has that ever happened? I don't think so.

Oh, and thank you for lending us Joe Burrow. We're making good use of him. Too bad OSU didn't.
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You’re welcome. We’re doing just fine with out him. Tough situation to have a QB of Joe’s caliber but to have another who is vastly superior. It certainly was generous of Meyer to give him an opportunity to play for a second tier team.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You’re welcome. We’re doing just fine with out him. Tough situation to have a QB of Joe’s caliber but to have another who is vastly superior. It certainly was generous of Meyer to give him an opportunity to play for a second tier team.
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The QB you have now is kicking ass. I understand that he and Tua talk on the phone fairly regularly. I love Tua's skills, but having a bigger QB certainly makes those hard hits less nerve wracking.
 
WinterBorn said:
And yet, a 4 year starter on the Oline for Alabama graduated with a degree in accounting and maintained a 4.0 GPA.
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One? Let's see, in four years how many Offensive linemen has Alabama gone thru, and that don't consider if the kid was redshirted one of his years. And one graduated with a degree other than "sports science?"

You just can't accept the fact that a large degree of college football is semi-pro, if you got the money to spend on a football team and you will probably be sucessful, money will buy what you need, and Alabama leads the pack. Didn't it ever occur to you why the State schools are more sucessful than the few private schools that still play at that level?

It ain't amateur nor possesses the qualities of amateurism, it is semi pro, might as well call it them the Montgomery Crimson Tide
 
archives said:
One? Let's see, in four years how many Offensive linemen has Alabama gone thru, and that don't consider if the kid was redshirted one of his years. And one graduated with a degree other than "sports science?"

You just can't accept the fact that a large degree of college football is semi-pro, if you got the money to spend on a football team and you will probably be sucessful, money will buy what you need, and Alabama leads the pack. Didn't it ever occur to you why the State schools are more sucessful than the few private schools that still play at that level?

It ain't amateur nor possesses the qualities of amateurism, it is semi pro, might as well call it them the Montgomery Crimson Tide
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I accept the fact that, since Saban elevated the football team to the dynasty it is, the University of Alabama's athletic dept is making major profits. Also, the number of out of state students increased dramatically.

from: https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/...and-not-just-football/qEGqFDdct5d8Jy7eaKyeUP/
"Before Saban arrived, the school had already begun an enrollment push, topping 20,000 in 2003 (20,333), and reaching a then-record 23,878 for the 2006-07 academic school year. For that fall, it received 15,761 applications.

For the fall of 2016, it received 42,802 applications. Enrollment was 37,665.

Normally when a school significantly expands the quality of its student applications dips. That wasn’t the case at Alabama. The average ACT score went from 24.2 in 2006 to 27.07 a decade later. The average GPA for the incoming freshmen rose from 3.4 to 3.69."



If you want to denigrate the course of study for the athletes, that is fine. But as long as the athletes do not get paid, they are amateurs.
 
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