convict Biden? Then he pardons himself?

So they would be apoplectic if Biden pardoned himself?



Yet they won’t help reassure the people that a president should not be able to do that?
 
Hey cons


This proves your sham investigations of the Biden family are known lies even to you


Get a court to charge him with these bogus crime claims


You can’t because all courts know it’s just squishy little turds you yanked out of your asses


Otherwise you would actually be WORRIED about Biden just pardoning himself



It never even crossed your puss filled brains that he could pardon himself




Why?


Because you know deep down he can’t be convicted on any of these phony assed claims



Thanks for playing losers
 
This is how you prove to people that this incarnation of the Republican Party is a criminal set of evil fucks and the fools they can trick


They are doomed


Their complete lack of logic and morality can be made evident
 
evince said:
What would the republicans say if that happened?
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Constitutionally you cannot convict a sitting President for a Federal crime. You can only impeach. You can then try and convict should he be impeached for an actual crime (that is not necessary in impeachment, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves much open).

One cannot "pardon" themselves out of impeachment as it is not a criminal trial event (shown in the fact that it specifically does not attach for double jeopardy). Now he could "pardon" himself for the crimes if he does it before the vote in the Senate, but it is very likely that act itself would ensure removal from the office as it is admitting guilt (no need to pardon yourself if you are not guilty).
 
Damocles said:
Constitutionally you cannot convict a sitting President for a Federal crime. You can only impeach. You can then try and convict should he be impeached for an actual crime (that is not necessary in impeachment, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves much open).

One cannot "pardon" themselves out of impeachment as it is not a criminal trial event (shown in the fact that it specifically does not attach for double jeopardy). Now he could "pardon" himself for the crimes if he does it before the vote in the Senate, but it is very likely that act itself would ensure removal from the office as it is admitting guilt (no need to pardon yourself if you are not guilty).
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This is presupposing that Trump is sane. Let's not forget that he had to be talked out of starting a war late in 2020.

I fully support prosecuting all criminals, especially those elected to office since they both betrayed their oaths and the American taxpayers. Hunter is, without a doubt, dirty. Joe probably isn't and, without proof, the Republicans are making this another Benghazi witch hunt. Trump is clearly guilty of planning and executing an attack on the Capitol on 1/6.
 
evince said:
Any president?

Or just a Democratic Party member?
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Any president. In Trump's case, if he were reelected in 2024, any cases pending would have to go on hold until he finished his term. That would be no different than the same extending to members of Congress. That's how that works, like it or not.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Any president. In Trump's case, if he were reelected in 2024, any cases pending would have to go on hold until he finished his term. That would be no different than the same extending to members of Congress. That's how that works, like it or not.
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Link to the American laws that prove your point?
 
Damocles said:
Constitutionally you cannot convict a sitting President for a Federal crime. You can only impeach. You can then try and convict should he be impeached for an actual crime (that is not necessary in impeachment, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves much open).

One cannot "pardon" themselves out of impeachment as it is not a criminal trial event (shown in the fact that it specifically does not attach for double jeopardy). Now he could "pardon" himself for the crimes if he does it before the vote in the Senate, but it is very likely that act itself would ensure removal from the office as it is admitting guilt (no need to pardon yourself if you are not guilty).
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Thank you for admitting you can’t convict Biden of anything
 
Damocles said:
Constitutionally you cannot convict a sitting President for a Federal crime. You can only impeach. You can then try and convict should he be impeached for an actual crime (that is not necessary in impeachment, "high crimes and misdemeanors" leaves much open).

One cannot "pardon" themselves out of impeachment as it is not a criminal trial event (shown in the fact that it specifically does not attach for double jeopardy). Now he could "pardon" himself for the crimes if he does it before the vote in the Senate, but it is very likely that act itself would ensure removal from the office as it is admitting guilt (no need to pardon yourself if you are not guilty).
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And you have nothing to impeach him for either as he has done nothing impeachable
 
evince said:
Link to the American laws that prove your point?
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The Supreme Court has never held that a president is immune from criminal prosecution. It’s the Department of Justice that says that. And because the Department of Justice controls all the federal prosecutors, it means that no federal prosecutor, including the new special counsel [investigating Biden’s offsite storage of classified documents], can prosecute a sitting president. The Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice thinks there’s such a rule in the Constitution because it believes a criminal indictment and prosecution — and of course, punishment — would effectively incapacitate the presidency. And they further believe it’s unconstitutional to incapacitate the sitting president, and that the only means by which you can [legally] incapacitate the president are impeachment, which removes the president from office, or the 25th Amendment, which sidelines an incapacitated president. The OLC does not believe that a state prosecutor or even a federal prosecutor should be able to prosecute the president and eventually put him or her in jail, because they don’t think the Constitution would allow a local or federal prosecutor to incapacitate the chief executive.
https://www.law.virginia.edu/news/2...professor-explains-differing-visions-immunity

https://www.abajournal.com/news/art...icted_the_constitution_doesnt_give_a_definiti

https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion...enability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution
 
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