Deal With Climate Change Now, Or America Will Face Unprecedented Southern Immigration

Hello Jack,



We humans live on a planet. This planet is our home. We have to think larger than just our country. We already have too many humans on this planet. The long term solution is to limit childbirth to no more than 2 per couple.

No we don't. We aren't obligated in the least to help anyone unless we choose to do so. If those that are losers or whatever want to come here and we don't want them, then they can't come and we should stop them by all means necessary within reason.
 
Hello Jack,

True.
We can only control what happens in OUR country.

True and not true. Being the most powerful country in the world, we actually have considerable sway over what happens in other countries. Especially when it is a matter which affects everyone.

It's almost the case that we have more control over what happens in some other countries than we have over our own extreme right wing in America.
 
Hello T. A. Gardner,

No we don't. We aren't obligated in the least to help anyone unless we choose to do so. If those that are losers or whatever want to come here and we don't want them, then they can't come and we should stop them by all means necessary within reason.

I would consider that view to be rather shortsighted.

Particularly when speaking of the issue of world over-population.

Sort of like pretending that there is nothing beyond our borders; but we know there actually is quite a lot. And it affects us, being on the same planet and all.
 
Hello Jack,



True and not true. Being the most powerful country in the world, we actually have considerable sway over what happens in other countries. Especially when it is a matter which affects everyone.

It's almost the case that we have more control over what happens in some other countries than we have over our own extreme right wing in America.

Sure. If you say so.
 
Hello T. A. Gardner,



I would consider that view to be rather shortsighted.

Particularly when speaking of the issue of world over-population.

Sort of like pretending that there is nothing beyond our borders; but we know there actually is quite a lot. And it affects us, being on the same planet and all.

The US isn't "over populated." So, why is that an issue for the US?

What happens in some Third World shithole is their problem.

Here, let's follow the "science."

 
Look at the situation. Look at the long range implications over the next few decades.

The weather is getting erratic. The climate is changing. 2016 and 2020 have tied for the hottest years on record.

If this continues unabated, Central America will become unlivable. Crops won't grow. Water for irrigation will become scarce. It will simply be too hot to work outside.

When sustenance farming and even industrial farming is no longer is possible in Central America, take a wild guess where all those people are going to want to go.

South is not an option.

They will all want to come here.

If you think immigration has been a problem up until now, you ain't seen nuthin yet.

The USA needs to take the lead in Climate Change mitigation efforts or we are going to see immigration knocking at our southern border on an unprecedented scale.

Just sayin...


"Bill Gates:

Well, I mean, that the natural ecosystems die off, things like all the coral reefs.

I mean that the beaches disappear. You have you know trees dying off and lots of wildfires. You have the ability to grow food in the Southern grow food in the Southern part of the U.S. is dramatically reduced.

For the world, it will create literally tens of millions of climate refugees, because the closer you are to the equator, the more unlivable that it gets. And so it makes the pandemic look small. The death rate by the end of the century would be over five times the worst of the — what we have had in this pandemic."

"The poorest in the world live near the equator. And they are subsistence farmers. And when they don't see that they are able to feed their family, that creates incredible instability and incredible migration. And so this will be the world's biggest migration ever, as those areas become unlivable, where they have crop failures and they aren't able to work outdoors."

PBS Newhour

Fuck off with that wealth redistribution bullshit! Seriously.
 
The US isn't "over populated." So, why is that an issue for the US?

What happens in some Third World shithole is their problem.

Here, let's follow the "science."


Have you tried driving on an L.A. Freeway? Lived in NYC? How many MORE people do you want to crowd in here? Do you think living shoulder-to-shoulder should be the norm?
 
Have you tried driving on an L.A. Freeway? Lived in NYC? How many MORE people do you want to crowd in here? Do you think living shoulder-to-shoulder should be the norm?

Nice try. I'm not falling for your strawman. We're discussing immigration here. The video I posted is devastating. Immigration won't solve the problems in those Turd World shitholes. Letting millions come here illegally hurts us and does nothing to help them.
 
Nice try. I'm not falling for your strawman. We're discussing immigration here. The video I posted is devastating. Immigration won't solve the problems in those Turd World shitholes. Letting millions come here illegally hurts us and does nothing to help them.

T.A.: "The US isn't "over populated." So, why is that an issue for the US?"
Jack: I say it is.
 
thankfully you white christ stained lunatics are dying off

Until that upcoming Crusade, douchearama.
"Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war, with the Cross of Jesus, going on before".
"Christ the royal master, leads against the foe"
"Forward into battle, see his banners go"

You wanna test Christians on planet earth, dumbass? You're going to have a bad time.

Consider that the entire country of Ethiopia will be against you. As well as many in America.
Just that there may just be enough, boy!
Oh! There's another Christian African nation, too!

Oh! Mental block! Which one is it? Possibly Kenya!

Do not count out out several South American countries marching for Christ.

Jesus actually visited parts of Africa and South America after he rose from the grave and before he ascended.

Their Christianity did not start with Constantine, it started with Christ.
American and South American Indians, too.
 
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Heres a suggestion - why not get a 16 year old child with Aspergers, protected from any challenging questions, this way the selected spokes-child can cite bullying or hate speech law against anyone who asks a probing question. Slam Dunk - the climate change cult can forge ahead.
 
I think the Democrats are the ones that need to face what the prospects are. In this Age of Automation, no one needs a billion Basket Weavers laying around waiting to get their UBI checks.

Wow, you're actually making sense for once! Even you know when PoliShitTalker is spouting bollox!
 
Heres a suggestion - why not get a 16 year old child with Aspergers, protected from any challenging questions, this way the selected spokes-child can cite bullying or hate speech law against anyone who asks a probing question. Slam Dunk - the climate change cult can forge ahead.

She's 18 now, she ought to doll herself up, get drunk and screw around like any other Swedish teenager! SloJo is well able to screw things up without her now!
 
T.A.: "The US isn't "over populated." So, why is that an issue for the US?"
Jack: I say it is.

The science says it doesn't matter. Immigration makes no difference to climate change, climate "refugees," or to fixing the world's economic inequalities.
 
I think the Democrats are the ones that need to face what the prospects are. In this Age of Automation, no one needs a billion Basket Weavers laying around waiting to get their UBI checks.

Wat is an UBI chack? Is that like an UBU check? :dunno:
 
What "situation"?


What "implications"?


Weather IS, by nature, erratic (meaning "not regular" or "unpredictable"). There is no such thing as a weather "pattern".

Even if I were to accept this claim of yours as a problem, you would then have to define a "baseline" value that you are comparing this supposedly "getting erratic" weather against and justify your chosen "baseline" value.


What "climate"? There is no such thing as a global climate. Climate, like weather, is a hyper local thing. Also, how does climate "change", exactly? Climate is not a quantitative value.


Splendid! Now can you provide me with the raw data for this? Oh wait, it doesn't exist... you're just making schiff up again...


You haven't even established that it is happening, or that there is anything that we could do about it even if it WERE established as happening... I will simply dismiss this as religious fear mongering.


Continued religious fear mongering...


Define "climate change". It is a meaningless buzzword. How do you know that the Earth is warming? What science do you have to support this claim?



Bill Gates is a Satanic moron. His religious fear mongering, that he makes a shitload of money from, is likewise summarily dismissed.

You're not a scientist. You're not qualified to deny scientific consensus on this topic, so it's best if you keep quiet.
 
The science says it doesn't matter. Immigration makes no difference to climate change, climate "refugees," or to fixing the world's economic inequalities.

Global warming will change coastlines over the coming decades. Many smaller island nations (like Tuvalu) have lost considerable land in the past thirty years and will be totally submerged by 2050. Parts of the world that are now livable will be inhospitable, and millions of people will become refugees.

It isn't wise to deny science just because some politicians and right-wingers with interest in protecting Big Oil's status quo tell you to.
 
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