BidenPresident
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Asshole for making a joke?
Bye, asshole troll.
Defining the Christian Life
- Thread starter Cypress
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Bye, asshole troll.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
I guess George Carlin was a major asshole? Maybe he was. 
Maybe he was. Everyone knows, especially scientists with PhDs, that when a pollster calls you with questions about one's religious convictions, they are not asking your opinion on logarithms.
'Religion' is part 'philosophy' and part mysticism.
My rejection of the Christian Religion is that it is a Slave Religion. It's COMPLETELY understandable why the Kings of Europe adopted it.
A thousand years of Christian domination ... called the Dark Ages for a reason.
Academic scholars have largely abandoned the concept of a Dark Age, as it was taught in school in the 1950s.
I do not begrudge you your hostility to Christianity. It's your life.
In my life, I attempt to keep my mind open to the wisdom and moral philosophies of the world's religious and intellectual traditions.
I am equally willing to consider the life and philosophy of Saint Augustine as I am the atheist existential philosopher Frederich Nitzche.
BidenPresident
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You did not cite that PEW survey.
I don't want to speak for BP, but the 'Higher Power' could mean many things and not just a 'Zeus looking guy sitting on a Throne'.
What do you specifically endorse about 'Religion'? That there really is a Single Entity? A Creator at some location? There IS a Heaven?
"A survey of scientists who are members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press in May and June 2009, finds that members of this group are, on the whole, much less religious than the general public.1 Indeed, the survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view."
https://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
33% believe in God. 18% believe in Universal Spirit.
BidenPresident
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ThatOwlWoman
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Ra-men.
I see nothing wrong with recognizing the contributions that religion, in particular Christianity, have made to our current culture. That's what Cypress is often doing when he starts a thread on the subject. That being said, a society is better off when the religious peacefully and quietly practice what they will, and leave others out of it. The Founders deliberately made sure that no particular faith was installed as the official one because it's a slippery slope eventually leading to persecution and war.
Let's see, it's over 40 posts and you haven't clearly stated ANYTHING other than: 'Mmmmm ... I don't really know or have a position on anything, why bother thinking. I'm just going with the 'Anything is Possible Theory', figuring if I cover my Bets, I'll end up being right.'
Cypress. Your initial Post and others in the Past paints you as a Religious Nut Job. Your position of 'Anything Is Possible', translates into 'Jesus could be a Man-God'.
I'm still waiting on something positive you see in Religious Belief.
BidenPresident
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Hard to tell what Cypress's agenda is. It looks like he is trying to convince himself that his religious beliefs are correct.
Cypress is a Religious Quack. He surrounds himself with Scholars of the Past, and insinuates 'See, these guys believed in 'Man-Gods', what's wrong if I do?'.
(I think he's an intelligent fellow, but just brain washed as a child)
Agree. He shrouds himself with others from the Past, and Hopes that will Validate his Belief System. (If you can't get past the 'Man-God', you're a Gone Pecan)
I do not know who this is addressed to, but nothing in the OP or and subsequent post I wrote even remotely suggested making a theocracy.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Right. Not accusing you of that.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ddha-Jesus-and-Muhammad&p=2617829#post2617829
Your mind-reading capabilities need work.
I profess ignorance and uncertainty about the ultimate nature of reality or a spritual truth, because to me that is the wisest course of action.
It is not the answers which matter most. What matters most is asking the right questions.
Very esoteric ... sounds right out of, mmmm, Star Trek.
I'm going to give up on asking you concrete questions on why you promote Christianity. A Slave Religion in my opinion.
My preference is 'Epicurus'.
"The philosophy of Epicurus (341–270 B.C.E.) was a complete and interdependent system, involving a view of the goal of human life (happiness, resulting from absence of physical pain and mental disturbance), an empiricist theory of knowledge (sensations, together with the perception of pleasure and pain, are infallible criteria), a description of nature based on atomistic materialism, and a naturalistic account of evolution, from the formation of the world to the emergence of human societies."
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epicurus/
Wishing you a Pleasurable existence, Cypress. (talk to you later)
You asked the wrong question based on a flawed premise.
I already told you, and showed you that I post anything I consider interesting from the broad pallete of Eastern and Western religious and intellectual traditions.
I am also probably the only poster here who has attempted to write about the atheist philosophers of the existentialist tradition - and the wisdom they might impart.
So your assertions I am a bible thumping promoter of Christianity specifically is a flawed premise which does not pass the laugh test.
I made an entire thread about the this Pew survey a few months ago, and you were all over that thread complaining too.
I do not assume all religious scientists are Christians. Some could be Hindu, Buddhist, or Daoist, etc. That is probably what the poll is getting at.
BidenPresident
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That study proved nothing. So what if some scientists believe in god? What does that prove?