Donald Trump 'voids' Joe Biden's pardons after former president used autopen signature

Althea said:
Now I understand your one and only semi lucid post earlier. Your 9 year old neighbor must have been posting while you were in the bathroom.

If you can't even remember the discussions you are starting, you are worse than trump.
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Like Jarod this is what I have reduce you to? I sincerely apologizer for contributing to your deteriorating mental health
 
Damocles said:
Dear gods... You are being deliberately obtuse, the rulings are direct,
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..and none of them are pardons.
Damocles said:
especially the last one that specifically stated that a pardon makes it so you cannot claim 5th Amendment for crimes which you have been pardoned, therefore Hunter is ripe for forced testimony.
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You cannot compel a witness to testify against himself. No court has the authority to change any constitution.
Damocles said:
And again, if you are President you can pardon them for anything. even crimes they have not committed.
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How do you 'pardon' someone for something they haven't done??????
Damocles said:
If I were President and pardoned you for "any crime committed within the past 11 years real or imagined" like Biden's handlers did, you would be pardoned, so long as you accepted the pardon, regardless of what crime you may have nor had not committed.
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How do you 'pardon' someone for something they haven't done??????
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is nuts and has no respect for the laws or the Constitution.
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You can't blame the problems of Democrats on Trump, Sybil. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE!
Nordberg said:
He has a staff of lawyers
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So?
Nordberg said:
going over everything in the Constitution and the laws looking for loopholes that he can use to grab more power or destroy the separation of powers.
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You are still hallucinating, Sybil. Gawd, it must suck to be so paranoid.
Nordberg said:
He wants to be a king and he is destroying anything in his way. This is a crime against the nation. But crimes are how he operates.
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The President is not the king, Sybil. You are again mindlessly chanting what Democrats told you to say.
 
Althea said:
He has also learned that by simply ignoring the courts, he can continue to break the law. Supreme Court declared him a king. Court rulings mean nothing to him.

He needs to be removed from society
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You can ignore any court that doesn't have authority to make the ruling it makes.
Trump has broken no law.
The Supreme Court did not and has no authority to declare anyone king.
Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. You cannot say he ignores the courts and follows the courts at the same time.
Your violent tendency is already noted.

DON'T TRY TO START A WAR YOU CANNOT WIN.
 
Teflon Don said:
If you are correct, and you have zero reason to be so certain or self righteous then there should have been no need for a pardon.
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Wrong. Biden pardoned some people to spare them from the legal torture that Trump would put them through. Trump is a nasty shit who will hurt anyone who he perceives as insufficiently Trumpian. Trump will weaponize justice like no other president, ever.
 
Nordberg said:
Wrong. Biden pardoned some people to spare them from the legal torture that Trump would put them through.
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How do you 'pardon' someone for something they were never convicted of??????
All you are arguing for is to set aside the law for The Elite.

It won't work, Sybil.
Nordberg said:
Trump is a nasty shit who will hurt anyone who he perceives as insufficiently Trumpian. Trump will weaponize justice like no other president, ever.
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You can't blame what Democrats did on Trump, Sybil! :laugh:
 
Nordberg said:
Wrong. Biden pardoned some people to spare them from the legal torture that Trump would put them through. Trump is a nasty shit who will hurt anyone who he perceives as insufficiently Trumpian. Trump will weaponize justice like no other president, ever.
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That is the lie you tell yourselves.
 
TLTurnipseed said:
Download my law review article entitled "The President and the Autopen: It is Unconstitutional for Someone or Something to Sign a Bill Outside of the President's Presence." https://shorturl.at/y7ac2
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An article that completely ignores the DoJ legal ruling from 6 years earlier.

For the foregoing reasons, we conclude that the President need not personally
perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides
to sign in order for the bill to become law. Rather, the President may sign a bill
within the meaning of Article I, Section 7 by directing a subordinate to affix the
President’s signature to such a bill, for example by autopen.
 
SlaveForChrist said:
The reality is, an autopen was not used
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It was.
SlaveForChrist said:
(even though one of Trump's own federal judges ruled it is perfectly acceptable anyway).
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IF and only if there is an ability to prove that line of authority in a court of law.
SlaveForChrist said:
Instead, Trump and his braindead cocksucking cult looked at the Federal Register, saw a reproduction signature that they use for all documents displayed wrt that president, and decided it was an autopen signature because they didn't realize it's a reproduction, not the actual signed document, because they're so fucking stupid.

A good thread on this:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1897970253097058329
View: https://x.com/ellim992/status/1897970253097058329
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Irrelevance fallacy.
 
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