ROFL.. then STFU about being "almost as good as" the great sage would admonish
Speak when you understand - which you obviously don't
Dukkha is more than suffering.
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Speak when you understand - which you obviously don't
like this. talk about not knowing.Unless your life sucks
humans still cling to life both mentally and physically no matter the quality of life
you seem to think all religions are (literally) 'hell bent' to proselytize.
I would disabuse you of that notion, but it's a waste of effort for one consumed by five hindrances
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_hindrances
The five hindrances are:
Sensory desire (kāmacchanda): the particular type of wanting that seeks for happiness through the five senses of sight, sound, smell, taste and physical feeling.
Ill-will (vyāpāda; also spelled byāpāda): all kinds of thought related to wanting to reject; feelings of hostility, resentment, hatred and bitterness.
Sloth-and-torpor (thīna-middha): heaviness of body and dullness of mind which drag one down into disabling inertia and thick depression.
Restlessness-and-worry (uddhacca-kukkucca): the inability to calm the mind.
Doubt (vicikicchā): lack of conviction or trust.
for sure. but life is fleeting and rebirth an unsatisfactory outcome.
Chances are you will not be reborn in a higher realm of humanity again.
There are Bodhisattva for bodhi who seek aid .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva_vow
a person who has attained prajna, or Enlightenment, but who postpones Nirvana in order to help others to attain Enlightenment
Althea
Althea told me...........
Yea...I have trouble with a lot of is stuff. To the quote below from the multiple personality member:
Dummkopf has brain rot. He can't remember what he had for breakfast.Althea is Mr.Compassion.
Harborside Medical in Ca because weed was being diverted
so to him that meant ALL MEDICAL MARIJUANA was DIVERTED ..or the banks.... or something.
it's moot by legalization now
he's not credible to discuss pain management. Enough drama yet?
The damned fool was motherfucking Obama because of the Fed policy re. the abuse of 'medical marijuana'. After Obama announced that he wasn't going to bust cancer patients, 1000 supposed medical marijuana dispensaries opened up. In collusion with corrupt doctors, it was nothing but a scam.
I never said that marijuana doesn't have medical benefits. I gave plenty of my indica over the years, to a dear friend who just passed away from Agent Orange related cancer.
Just as Dummkopf sucks trump's cock, he motherfucked Obama every day. Probably because Dummy supported Hillary. I merely pointed out that there is plenty of weed on the streets, and the scam MM industry in California was just that...a scam.
Ironically, the major stumbling block for the legal weed industry was that it is still illegal on the Fed. level. No banks could do business with the dispensaries, and the IRS wouldn't allow standard business deductions.
Obama eased restrictions on banking, and always had a lax approach to Fed crackdowns on legal weed.
trump's justice dept. did away with all of that.
Hear Dummkopf motherfucking trump over that?
I don't think so.
Some people tolerate pain better than others. I lay in the hospital with 7 fractured ribs and a separated shoulder, and went hours without pain meds. You would think that a Buddhist could ignore a little knee pain?
There is an ultimate exam and it ideally is gone through in a state of "mushin"
I googled: *zen Mushin**
Mushin is the essence of Zen and Japanese martial arts.
Mushin literally means the "mind without mind", and it is commonly called "the state of no-mindedness".
https://www.zen-buddhism.net/zen-concepts/mushin.html
'Mushin' in Japanese and 'Wuxin' in Chinese (無心 "no mind") is a mental state.
Zen and Daoist meditators are said to reach this state, as well as artists and
trained martial artists. They also practice this mental state during everyday activities.
Mushin is achieved when a person's mind is free from thoughts of anger, fear, or ego during
combat or everyday life. There is an absence of discursive thought and judgment, so the
person is totally free to act and react towards an opponent without hesitation and without
disturbance from such thoughts. At this point, a person relies not on what they think
should be the next move, but what is their trained natural reaction (or instinct) or what
is felt intuitively. It is not a state of relaxed, near-sleepfulness, however. The mind c
ould be said to be working at a very high speed, but with no intention, plan or direction.
Some masters believe that mushin is the state where a person finally understands
the uselessness of techniques and becomes truly free to move. In fact, those people
will no longer even consider themselves as "fighters" but merely living beings moving through space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushin_(mental_state)
A mind unconscious of itself is a mind that is not at all disturbed by affects of any kind.
It is the original mind and not the delusive one that is chock-full of
https://www.dailyzen.com/journal/the-mind-of-no-mind-mushin-no-shin
Nothing like the smell of Sukham in the morning!
I Googled: *zen santori**
This is what came up as pre-loaded FAQ drop down lists:
What does it mean to be Zen?
A state of calm attentiveness in which one's actions are guided by intuition rather than by conscious effort
Perhaps that is the zen of gardening—you become one with the plants, lost in the rhythm of the tasks at hand.—
<*perhaps you know of Bushido's link to Zen???>
What is Zen enlightenment?
The essence of Zen Buddhism is achieving enlightenment by seeing one's original mind (or original nature)
directly; without the intervention of the intellect. ... Zen is simply to be completely alive. Zen is short for
Zen Buddhism. It is sometimes called a religion and sometimes called a philosophy.
What is Satori in Zen Buddhism?
Satori (悟り) (Chinese: 悟; pinyin: wù; Korean: 오 o; Vietnamese: ngộ) is a Japanese Buddhist term for awakening,
"comprehension; understanding". It is derived from the Japanese verb satoru. In the Zen Buddhist tradition,
satori refers to the experience of kenshō, "seeing into one's true nature".
What is Buddhist kensho?
Buddhist scholars have defined kenshō as: D.T. Suzuki: "Looking into one's nature or the opening of satori";
"This acquiring of a new point of view in our dealings with life and the world is popularly called by Japanese
Zen students 'satori' (wu in Chinese). ... To "see one's nature" is the usual translation for kensho".
What is the difference between satori and nirvana?
It is a pure experience in which the true nature of one's being is known directly. What is the difference between
satori and nirvana? Nirvana is a permanent state of enlightenment, whereas satori is a temporary state that is
experienced with increasing frequency and intensity.
What is awakening in Buddhism?
In Theravada Buddhism, bodhi refers to the realisation of the four stages of enlightenment and becoming an Arahant.
In Theravada Buddhism, bodhi is equal to supreme insight, the realisation of the four noble truths, which leads
to deliverance. Reaching full awakening is equivalent in meaning to reaching Nirvāṇa.
What is the true meaning of Zen?
It means meditation. The Japanese for zen is from the Chinese for chan which in turn comes from the Hindu dhyana,
the form of yoga through meditation. Ok, so that is the literal meaning of zen if not the true one.
What happens when Buddhist reach enlightenment?
In Buddhism, this state, which the Buddha couldn't relate in language, is called nirvana. The word is Sanskrit for
"to extinguish." In this case, it means to extinguish ignorance, hatred and earthly suffering. ... Once you have
fully escaped the karmic cycle, you achieve parinirvana -- final nirvana -- in the afterlife.
What happens when we die according to Buddhism?
Buddhists believe death is a natural part of the life cycle. They believe that death simply leads to rebirth.
This belief in reincarnation <*of the transmigrating atta> – that a person's spirit remains close by and seeks out a new body and new life.
*inserted By Bhaktajan
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Sukha (Sanskrit, Pali; Devanagari: सुख) means happiness, pleasure, ease, or bliss, in Sanskrit and Pali. Among the
early scriptures, 'sukha' is set up as a contrast to 'preya' (प्रेय) meaning a transient pleasure, whereas the pleasure
of 'sukha' has an authentic state happiness within a being that is lasting.
Dukham (Sanskrit) or Dukkha (Pali) is referred to in Hinduism and Buddhism as suffering.
vs.
Sukham (Sanskrit) or Sukha (Pali) means the opposite: comfort, ...
I googled: *zen Mushin**
Mushin is the essence of Zen and Japanese martial arts.
Mushin literally means the "mind without mind", and it is commonly called "the state of no-mindedness".
https://www.zen-buddhism.net/zen-concepts/mushin.html
'Mushin' in Japanese and 'Wuxin' in Chinese (無心 "no mind") is a mental state.
Zen and Daoist meditators are said to reach this state, as well as artists and
trained martial artists. They also practice this mental state during everyday activities.
Mushin is achieved when a person's mind is free from thoughts of anger, fear, or ego during
combat or everyday life. There is an absence of discursive thought and judgment, so the
person is totally free to act and react towards an opponent without hesitation and without
disturbance from such thoughts. At this point, a person relies not on what they think
should be the next move, but what is their trained natural reaction (or instinct) or what
is felt intuitively. It is not a state of relaxed, near-sleepfulness, however. The mind c
ould be said to be working at a very high speed, but with no intention, plan or direction.
Some masters believe that mushin is the state where a person finally understands
the uselessness of techniques and becomes truly free to move. In fact, those people
will no longer even consider themselves as "fighters" but merely living beings moving through space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushin_(mental_state)
A mind unconscious of itself is a mind that is not at all disturbed by affects of any kind.
It is the original mind and not the delusive one that is chock-full of
https://www.dailyzen.com/journal/the-mind-of-no-mind-mushin-no-shin
Nothing like the smell of Sukham in the morning!
I Googled: *zen santori**
This is what came up as pre-loaded FAQ drop down lists:
What does it mean to be Zen?
A state of calm attentiveness in which one's actions are guided by intuition rather than by conscious effort
Perhaps that is the zen of gardening—you become one with the plants, lost in the rhythm of the tasks at hand.—
<*perhaps you know of Bushido's link to Zen???>
What is Zen enlightenment?
The essence of Zen Buddhism is achieving enlightenment by seeing one's original mind (or original nature)
directly; without the intervention of the intellect. ... Zen is simply to be completely alive. Zen is short for
Zen Buddhism. It is sometimes called a religion and sometimes called a philosophy.
What is Satori in Zen Buddhism?
Satori (悟り) (Chinese: 悟; pinyin: wù; Korean: 오 o; Vietnamese: ngộ) is a Japanese Buddhist term for awakening,
"comprehension; understanding". It is derived from the Japanese verb satoru. In the Zen Buddhist tradition,
satori refers to the experience of kenshō, "seeing into one's true nature".
What is Buddhist kensho?
Buddhist scholars have defined kenshō as: D.T. Suzuki: "Looking into one's nature or the opening of satori";
"This acquiring of a new point of view in our dealings with life and the world is popularly called by Japanese
Zen students 'satori' (wu in Chinese). ... To "see one's nature" is the usual translation for kensho".
What is the difference between satori and nirvana?
It is a pure experience in which the true nature of one's being is known directly. What is the difference between
satori and nirvana? Nirvana is a permanent state of enlightenment, whereas satori is a temporary state that is
experienced with increasing frequency and intensity.
What is awakening in Buddhism?
In Theravada Buddhism, bodhi refers to the realisation of the four stages of enlightenment and becoming an Arahant.
In Theravada Buddhism, bodhi is equal to supreme insight, the realisation of the four noble truths, which leads
to deliverance. Reaching full awakening is equivalent in meaning to reaching Nirvāṇa.
What is the true meaning of Zen?
It means meditation. The Japanese for zen is from the Chinese for chan which in turn comes from the Hindu dhyana,
the form of yoga through meditation. Ok, so that is the literal meaning of zen if not the true one.
What happens when Buddhist reach enlightenment?
In Buddhism, this state, which the Buddha couldn't relate in language, is called nirvana. The word is Sanskrit for
"to extinguish." In this case, it means to extinguish ignorance, hatred and earthly suffering. ... Once you have
fully escaped the karmic cycle, you achieve parinirvana -- final nirvana -- in the afterlife.
What happens when we die according to Buddhism?
Buddhists believe death is a natural part of the life cycle. They believe that death simply leads to rebirth.
This belief in reincarnation <*of the transmigrating atta> – that a person's spirit remains close by and seeks out a new body and new life.
*inserted By Bhaktajan
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Sukha (Sanskrit, Pali; Devanagari: सुख) means happiness, pleasure, ease, or bliss, in Sanskrit and Pali. Among the
early scriptures, 'sukha' is set up as a contrast to 'preya' (प्रेय) meaning a transient pleasure, whereas the pleasure
of 'sukha' has an authentic state happiness within a being that is lasting.
Dukham (Sanskrit) or Dukkha (Pali) is referred to in Hinduism and Buddhism as suffering.
vs.
Sukham (Sanskrit) or Sukha (Pali) means the opposite: comfort, ...
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Althea
Althea told me...........
Simply put, life is suffering. I believe, if I understand what you posted, once you reach Nirvana, you have no need to be born again. You have reached the end of your struggle.
I have read about this elsewhere. We will keep coming back, until we get it right.
Which is why some seem to be way more enlightened than others.
An 'old soul' as it were.
translation. I got my weed screw everyone else.
this asshat has the gaul to post on a Buddhist thread when a hallmark of Buddhism is compassion.
dolt. no one is enlightened until they are -the exception is bodhisattva and
this asshat has never came across one.
we don't come back. only our imperfected karma returns the definition of anatta is "no self"
nothing wrong with hedging your bets..lol
Next up is the Eight Fold path - a philosophical guide to life as well as a way off the wheel
The eight Buddhist practices in the Noble Eightfold Path are:[27][note 2]
Right View: our actions have consequences, death is not the end, and our actions and beliefs have consequences after death. The Buddha followed and taught a successful path out of this world and the other world Later on, right view came to explicitly include karma and rebirth, and the importance of the Four Noble Truths, when "insight" became central to Buddhist soteriology.
Right Resolve or Intention: the giving up home and adopting the life of a religious mendicant in order to follow the path; this concept aims at peaceful renunciation, into an environment of non-sensuality, non-ill-will (to loving kindness), away from cruelty (to compassion). Such an environment aids contemplation of impermanence, suffering, and non-Self.
Right Speech: no lying, no rude speech, no telling one person what another says about him.[27]
Right Conduct or Action: no killing or injuring, no taking what is not given,
Right Livelihood: beg to feed, only possessing what is essential to sustain life;
Right Effort: preventing the arising of unwholesome states, and generating wholesome states, the bojjhagā (seven factors of awakening). This includes indriya-samvara, "guarding the sense-doors," restraint of the sense faculties.
Right Mindfulness (sati; Satipatthana; Sampajañña): "retention," being mindful of the dhammas ("teachings," "elements") that are beneficial to the Buddhist path. In the vipassana movement, sati is interpreted as "bare attention": never be absent minded, being conscious of what one is doing; this encourages the awareness of the impermanence of body, feeling and mind, as well as to experience the five aggregates (skandhas), the five hindrances, the four True Realities and seven factors of awakening.
Right samadhi (Passaddhi; Ekaggata; sampasadana): practicing four stages of dhyāna ("meditation"), which includes samadhi proper in the second stage, and reinforces the development of the bojjhagā, culminating into upekkha (equanimity) and mindfulness.. In the Theravada tradition and the Vipassana movement, this is interpreted as ekaggata, concentration or one-pointedness of the mind, and supplemented with Vipassana-meditation, which aims at insight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path
wiki is a bit dense,but a good starting overview
Right View: our actions have consequences, death is not the end, and our actions and beliefs have consequences after death. The Buddha followed and taught a successful path out of this world and the other world Later on, right view came to explicitly include karma and rebirth, and the importance of the Four Noble Truths, when "insight" became central to Buddhist soteriology.
Right Resolve or Intention: the giving up home and adopting the life of a religious mendicant in order to follow the path; this concept aims at peaceful renunciation, into an environment of non-sensuality, non-ill-will (to loving kindness), away from cruelty (to compassion). Such an environment aids contemplation of impermanence, suffering, and non-Self.
Right Speech: no lying, no rude speech, no telling one person what another says about him.[27]
Right Conduct or Action: no killing or injuring, no taking what is not given,
Right Livelihood: beg to feed, only possessing what is essential to sustain life;
Right Effort: preventing the arising of unwholesome states, and generating wholesome states, the bojjhagā (seven factors of awakening). This includes indriya-samvara, "guarding the sense-doors," restraint of the sense faculties.
Right Mindfulness (sati; Satipatthana; Sampajañña): "retention," being mindful of the dhammas ("teachings," "elements") that are beneficial to the Buddhist path. In the vipassana movement, sati is interpreted as "bare attention": never be absent minded, being conscious of what one is doing; this encourages the awareness of the impermanence of body, feeling and mind, as well as to experience the five aggregates (skandhas), the five hindrances, the four True Realities and seven factors of awakening.
Right samadhi (Passaddhi; Ekaggata; sampasadana): practicing four stages of dhyāna ("meditation"), which includes samadhi proper in the second stage, and reinforces the development of the bojjhagā, culminating into upekkha (equanimity) and mindfulness.. In the Theravada tradition and the Vipassana movement, this is interpreted as ekaggata, concentration or one-pointedness of the mind, and supplemented with Vipassana-meditation, which aims at insight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path
wiki is a bit dense,but a good starting overview
What if you reach 'Nirvana' and it turns out to be a real drag? You know, No Weed, No Wenches, No Viagra?
Right understanding: Understanding that the Four Noble Truths are noble and true.
Right thought: Determining and resolving to practice Buddhist faith.
Right speech: Avoiding slander, gossip, lying, and all forms of untrue and abusive speech.
Right conduct: Adhering to the idea of nonviolence (ahimsa), as well as refraining from any form of stealing or sexual impropriety.
Right means of making a living: Not slaughtering animals or working at jobs that force you to violate others.
Right mental attitude or effort: Avoiding negative thoughts and emotions, such as anger and jealousy.
Right mindfulness: Having a clear sense of one’s mental state and bodily health and feelings.
Right concentration: Using meditation to reach the highest level of enlightenment.
Right thought: Determining and resolving to practice Buddhist faith.
Right speech: Avoiding slander, gossip, lying, and all forms of untrue and abusive speech.
Right conduct: Adhering to the idea of nonviolence (ahimsa), as well as refraining from any form of stealing or sexual impropriety.
Right means of making a living: Not slaughtering animals or working at jobs that force you to violate others.
Right mental attitude or effort: Avoiding negative thoughts and emotions, such as anger and jealousy.
Right mindfulness: Having a clear sense of one’s mental state and bodily health and feelings.
Right concentration: Using meditation to reach the highest level of enlightenment.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Well...I'm guessing that the experience is all encompassing, so you wouldn't miss any of that. There are those who believe that you actually chose the path that you are on when you come back, because it will allow you a chance to learn that which you screwed up before.
I'm quite sure I've lived several times before.
Probably haven't gotten it right yet.
idiot. "I've lived several times" *hocus pocus*
Choosing reincarnation -WTF??
Nirvanah is the cessation of samsara, desires. the blowing out of the candle . The End
"Nirvanah is the cessation of samsara, desires. the blowing out of the candle . The End"
That sounds fucked up, ... I think I'm going to pass on THAT!
Althea
Althea told me...........
These idiots think they have everything figured out. That's funny.
This one needs to expand his horizons. Opiates don't help in that endeavor.
"those idiots" meaning Buddhist dharma.. what a brainstem thought
what is death but the end of life?
Nirvana is the same - the soteriological release from rebirths in saṃsāra.