For you folks who support profiling, the IRS was right to scrutinize Tea Party!

PostmodernProphet said:
yes.....and I just went back and looked again.....did you post it on a different board by mistake?.....
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Oh I see, Republicans used the IRS to hammer liberals, but because all the circumstances aren't exactly identical, it is null and void, right? They were just practicing ethical and moral governance...with reverence of course...
 
Bfgrn said:
but because all the circumstances aren't exactly identical, it is null and void, right?
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funny thing....when you claim someone did the same thing it's generally required that they at least be substantially similar......here, the NAACP thing also involved the IRS....beyond that, nothing similar.....

nobody else has anything to add?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
funny thing....when you claim someone did the same thing it's generally required that they at least be substantially similar......here, the NAACP thing also involved the IRS....beyond that, nothing similar.....

nobody else has anything to add?......
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Yea, that NAAACP thing involving the IRS...

Washington Post

The commissioner said the investigation of the NAACP was undertaken because two congressional leaders, whom he declined to name, requested it. They were unhappy because Bond criticized Bush in a speech in July 2004, saying his administration preached racial neutrality and practiced racial division.

"They write a new constitution of Iraq and they ignore the Constitution at home," Bond said.

After filing four freedom-of-information requests, NAACP lawyers discovered that far more than two members of Congress called for an investigation and that all were Republicans.

Republican Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) and Susan Collins (Maine) called for the investigation.

Others included Rep. Jo Ann S. Davis (R-Va.) and then-Rep. Larry Combest (R-Tex.). Former GOP representatives Joe Scarborough of Florida, who now hosts a talk show, and Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., currently governor of Maryland, also requested a probe.
 
Bfgrn said:
Yea, that NAAACP thing involving the IRS...

Washington Post

The commissioner said the investigation of the NAACP was undertaken because two congressional leaders, whom he declined to name, requested it. They were unhappy because Bond criticized Bush in a speech in July 2004, saying his administration preached racial neutrality and practiced racial division.

"They write a new constitution of Iraq and they ignore the Constitution at home," Bond said.

After filing four freedom-of-information requests, NAACP lawyers discovered that far more than two members of Congress called for an investigation and that all were Republicans.

Republican Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) and Susan Collins (Maine) called for the investigation.

Others included Rep. Jo Ann S. Davis (R-Va.) and then-Rep. Larry Combest (R-Tex.). Former GOP representatives Joe Scarborough of Florida, who now hosts a talk show, and Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., currently governor of Maryland, also requested a probe.
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We're the NAACP an opposition party?
We're personal details of members released to spurious organizations?
No.
That's all.

If the names, adresses and children's schools of NAACP members were released to the KKK, or aryian nation that might get close.
That's what Obama ordered the URS to do.
Lots of dead white babies!!
The liberal dream!!
 
Bfgrn said:
Yea, that NAAACP thing involving the IRS...

Washington Post

The commissioner said the investigation of the NAACP was undertaken because two congressional leaders, whom he declined to name, requested it. They were unhappy because Bond criticized Bush in a speech in July 2004, saying his administration preached racial neutrality and practiced racial division.

"They write a new constitution of Iraq and they ignore the Constitution at home," Bond said.

After filing four freedom-of-information requests, NAACP lawyers discovered that far more than two members of Congress called for an investigation and that all were Republicans.

Republican Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) and Susan Collins (Maine) called for the investigation.

Others included Rep. Jo Ann S. Davis (R-Va.) and then-Rep. Larry Combest (R-Tex.). Former GOP representatives Joe Scarborough of Florida, who now hosts a talk show, and Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., currently governor of Maryland, also requested a probe.
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an investigation of whether certain conducted violated an existing tax exempt status.....yes, we've already covered that.....it's not the same thing......anymore than police racial profiling black teens is the same thing as OJ Simpson being tried for the murder of his wife.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
an investigation of whether certain conducted violated an existing tax exempt status.....yes, we've already covered that.....it's not the same thing......anymore than police racial profiling black teens is the same thing as OJ Simpson being tried for the murder of his wife.....
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So, let's clear up all this obfuscation. A yes or no is all that's required from you...

The Democrats used the IRS to go after political opponents. The Republicans never did that...

YES

or

NO
 
Bfgrn said:
Oh I see, Republicans used the IRS to hammer liberals, but because all the circumstances aren't exactly identical, it is null and void, right? They were just practicing ethical and moral governance...with reverence of course...
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It's always different when a Republican does it. Shorthand; IOKIYAR
 
As Ron Paul once noted, the only valid arguments that right and left have these days is to argue which is the worst. That idea being to disguise the fact that both are corrupt to the core and promote pulling the proverbial wool over the eyes of the voting population by dividing them into brainwashed angry camps and conquering them.

Forget the rule of constitutional law, just vote for the least of the worst bastards as you are convinced them to be.

How fucking insane is that?????
 
HuffPo opinion piece.

Geeeeezus.

Bfgrn said:
The IRS Was Dead Right To Scrutinize Tea Party

Lost in the latest political scandal is a simple fact: The Internal Revenue Service was acting in the public interest when it opted to train its auditing power on the Tea Party and affiliated groups.

The IRS -- an agency loved by no one and responsible for stocking the Treasury with federal tax proceeds, due under the law -- appears to have devoted unique effort to making sure that Tea Party organizations were not fudging the paperwork in their bids to secure tax exemption.

Good for the IRS.

Like any institution, the agency has limited resources at its disposal. The notion that everyone ought to be treated the same, with auditing powers sprayed around like a lawn sprinkler, is ridiculous. Cops concentrate patrols in high-crime areas. And while we properly decry racial profiling and odious tactics like New York City's Stop and Frisk campaign -- through which people are subject to police pat-downs for no other reason than their being black and male -- no one would criticize the police for keeping an eye on people who are openly encouraging criminal behavior.

Which gets us back to the Tea Party. Here is a group that has made no effort to hide its contempt for the very institution of taxation. This is what it says on the website of the Cincinnati Tea Party: "Individuals need to have a direct connection between their efforts and the fruits of their labor. This is the magical spark that has led the United States from a loosely conglomerated political experiment into the most exceptional, strongest and most powerful nation on earth. Too many taxes and regulations ultimately serve to snuff out that spark."

The blog section of that site includes links to a host of propaganda from anti-government groups, including this link to a video produced by an outfit called "Government Gone Wild," which highlights the expansion of taxpayer-financed safety net programs such as food stamps, unemployment and Medicaid.

"You are being enslaved," declares a fear-mongering narrator, engaging in an all-too-typical depiction of poor people as freeloaders living fat on the public dime. "More and more people are becoming dependent on government to take care of them, and politicians don't like it one bit: They love it."

In short, being poor is depicted as just a con aimed at gorging on a luxurious buffet, stocked by taxpayer-financed programs like food stamps. Other than fear of enforcement, why would anyone with such beliefs bother to pay their taxes in full?

This sort of thinking is pervasive among those inclined to caricature government as inherently demonic, which is to say, the sorts of people attracted to the Tea Party. Search for "Tea Party" and "tax evasion" on the Internet and you can find a blog called Government Against the People, and a post titled "Tax Resistance Is As American As Apple Pie."

The Tea Party stands for many things, but a big part of its message is that sending money to Washington amounts to the perpetuation of a dangerous welfare state that's intent on turning America into a helpless land where our lone skill is filling out the forms to go on the dole.

Isn't it reasonable to assume that people who hold such beliefs might feel additional motivation to pursue grey areas and loopholes at tax time? Wouldn't the people who oversee federal coffers have been derelict had they not at least had a good look?

This scandal does not stem from the IRS actually levying action that contravenes the law. It's simply about whom the IRS decided to scrutinize. And the IRS had abundant reason to look carefully at the applications for tax exempt status sent in by people who are prone to portray taxes as something as base as slavery.

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No, in your opinion Conservatism is devoid of ethics, there is a difference...perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the difference?

Bfgrn said:
You know, if you keep making that revolting, mentally diseased accusation about liberals (murder people's kids), it will force me to do something I never do; put you on ignore. I have been around for over 6 decades and have witnesses a lot in my life. I know for a fact that conservatism is devoid of ethics, honesty or any shred of morality. But I would never accuse anyone of wanting to murder someone's kids.
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Roo said:
No, in your opinion Conservatism is devoid of ethics, there is a difference...perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the difference?
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I am very bright, I know and understand the difference, and I have been around since Harry Truman was in the White House. Give 'em hell Harry also had you right wing turds pegged way back in 1948. Conservatism is not a philosophy, it is what happens when fear, hate and insecurity infest a human being.


"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman
 
Bfgrn said:
So, let's clear up all this obfuscation. A yes or no is all that's required from you...

The Democrats used the IRS to go after political opponents. The Republicans never did that...

YES

or

NO
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is there any evidence the Republicans used the IRS to deny 501c3 status for liberal groups?.....a simple no.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
is there any evidence the Republicans used the IRS to deny 501c3 status for liberal groups?.....a simple no.....
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MORE obfuscation? What's the problem slime ball, can't answer the question?

The Democrats used the IRS to go after political opponents. The Republicans never did that...

YES

or

NO
 
Bfgrn said:
Oh I see, Republicans used the IRS to hammer liberals, but because all the circumstances aren't exactly identical, it is null and void, right? They were just practicing ethical and moral governance...with reverence of course...
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Wait neocons through monkey shit at the way for five years straight, and your looking for smart response now!
Ok
 
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