As I suspected. You only think you could shoot another person. LOL. You're an NPC in life, IBDaMann, and you would wind up being just another bystander. Your imagination has gotten away with you, useless guy.
Gun Monkey Follies: arming teachers
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As I suspected. You only think you could shoot another person. LOL. You're an NPC in life, IBDaMann, and you would wind up being just another bystander. Your imagination has gotten away with you, useless guy.
IBDaMann
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The ball is in your court. Cite one such law that has been passed.
The articles you cited are prime examples of the disinformation I mentioned, disinformation that you are complicit in spreading.
IBDaMann
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That's not so much of a problem in a digital age, but I get your point. It's the killing of ideas that I oppose.
IBDaMann
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Phantasmal hoodwinked you. There aren't any such laws that were passed. Phantasmal read the article titles like any gullible leftist and presumed that the hyped emotion/sentiment of the titles must have been justified in the content, and not merely an empty play on emotion. Phantasmal didn't feel that actually reading the articles was necessary given the certainty generated by the extreme emotional hype.
IBDaMann
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You'll find that all stupid leftists make this claim, without noticing that all the people who sit on the left are undereducated morons who can't put two and two together.
Into the Night
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Irrelevance fallacy. So you would rather get shot by a wacko. Gotit. Guess you hold your own life of little value, then. You can't even keep track of who you're talking to.
Into the Night
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Utah Title 76, $10, 505.5 and Title 53, $4,704.5.
These two laws allow a teacher to carry in the school.
Into the Night
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Arguing like a three year old doesn't hoodwink me.
I just quoted one such set of laws to you. Utah is one State that allows teachers to carry on school premises.
Phanty just tends to shoot from the emotional hip, like any Democrat. When cornered, he reverts to talking like a three year old.
He IS correct that laws have been passed to allow teachers to carry on school grounds, though.
Several States have laws that allow this, including Utah, Idaho, Alaska, and others.
Into the Night
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Here's my picture of you:
I am not a member of the NRA.
I do often carry though. I carry openly at the airport my aircraft is at (all mechanics are part of security there and most open carry).
Elsewhere I conceal carry much of the time.
I don't own a horse. My neighbor does, though (2 of them!).
Your hoplophobia is YOUR problem. You have no idea how many people around you might be carrying a gun and you are scared of them!
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LOL. That's what you took away from the picture? Typical NPC.
Into the Night
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You've been playing video games too long, Sock.
IBDaMann
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I'm guilty myself of allowing pivots to go unchecked. The original sentiment was Walt's mention of having teachers carry, not merely allowing teachers to carry. Phantasmal pivoted to laws permitting teachers to carry and I didn't check it.
The disinformation is still the same, i.e. converting the discussion of armed security at schools to one of teachers specifically being the armed security at schools, for the shock value and derailment of any discussion.
There are no States that have passed laws to have teachers perform the armed security function anywhere.
Allowing teachers to carry should already be legal without question. 2nd Amendment. Guess what, I just discovered that the 2nd Amendment also applies to auto mechanics and construction workers. Who knew? I wonder if the 2nd Amendment applies to anyone else.
Into the Night
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Not a problem! The pivot was subtle.
There are about 100,000 schools in the USA. If we figure four armed security guards per school (so we can always have a security guard on duty), $50k salary, and 50% overhead, it would cost about $30 billion. That is a bit much, but affordable.
But the next question is what do we get for that $30 billion. We would not get well trained people. In many red areas of America, the armed school security guards have criminal records. Usually minor violent criminal records, barroom brawls and the like. We are giving guns and children to people who could not sit in a bar without becoming violent. Kids can be obnoxious, so we are seeing more and more of these security guards turning violent.
Who knows some of these criminals with guns might bring a book or two with them also... Why is the alt right worried about the books?
Or kill them.
Why don'tcha give 'im a little tuggy-tuggy on his wee wee while you're at it?
LOL...you non-player characters are hilarious.
Into the Night
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Argument from randU fallacy, Sybil. You cannot make up numbers and use them as 'data'. Each school district pays for it's own security guards. What is this '50% overhead'?
Making shit up won't work, Sybil.
There is no such thing as an 'alt right', Sybil.
No such instance, Sybil. You are making shit up again.
Your hoplophobia won't save you.
Taichiliberal
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Agreed.... and so sad it's actually funny! (Tacky? Really? We haven't even argued yet! I'm hurt.
Just a friendly nickname.
I don't know how to pronounce your user name as you never wrote it phonetically.
A 50% overhead above salary would be pretty standard. It might be higher, and could be lower, but you cannot go wrong estimating 50%. So if you pay someone $50k, you are going to be spending about $75k.
What is it? Well obviously 6.2% for the employers portion of the Social Security. There are a couple of other taxes, including unemployment. There are various benefits, like health insurance. There is insurance against liabilities. There is uniforms, guns, training, etc. There are expenses in finding people to hire, and expenses in administering and paying those people.
I could go on and on. End of the day, you consider yourself lucky if you only have a 50% overhead.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Well, I am a retired teacher and coach...no "various professions"...
I never felt as though I needed to be armed when I was teaching, but I don't have a problem if that's what the system and staff decides...I would never have believed we'd have operational guns in the house, but the world has changed...I don't believe it hurts to be prepared and be able to defend yourself and others...
At home, at school, or just out and about...
If you have any more questions about my career, I'm happy to answer them. Loved teaching...would do it all over again...but I do hope to much needed changes in our schools...it takes a dedicated village though...we need to get those back...
1. Hmm, if it was worth it, I would go back a few years on this site regarding all your posts where you claimed a current or past profession. I'm just working off memory, so it's a subjective. I wonder if others who have been here as long as I who have a similar experience/memory? But for the sake of argument, we'll operate on the premise that you're legit here.
2. FYI: Stop Arming Teachers https://www.everytown.org/solutions/arming-teachers/
3. Being armed in your home or CCW is a HELL of a lot different in going into a grade or high school strapped.
4. If we don't have universal background checks (including gun shows) and treat owning a gun like you own a car, we will "get back" nothing. If we don't stop this idiocy of selling military grade weapons to civilians, then we will "get back" nothing.