Hoarding classified docs will put you in jail

[floridafan]

Not lies, dumbass. History.

Once again I asked you to document your lies, but you cant. You know its all bullshit, for the rubes on the various message boards you post this dreck on.

 

[Into the Night]

All that's above the President is the "rule of law"

The law says the President can retain any document he wishes.

 

[Into the Night]

Are saying brandon is going to jail?

He should.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump is on audio tape stating that he has top secret documents that were not declassified.

Not a crime. Try again.

 

[floridafan]

The law says the President can retain any document he wishes.

No need to reply again to the lies of yours.

 

[Into the Night]

The only person going to jail is the man who refused to return the docs, who hid them, lied about them, and showed them to friends. I hope trump rots behind bars.

Biden is not Trump. Trump committed no crime. You are describing Biden, who commited this crime.

 

[floridafan]

Not a crime. Try again.

one lie after another.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Still a dummy

Into the Night
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[TOP]

Why should you care, unless you are my little sweet lady under another alias.

I'm just curious...Normally, not something an adult would call another...is it?

 

[Into the Night]

You mean the 13 million who got back their jobs they lost during the pandemic Hoax finally. Sad that this is where we are at.

Floridafan is making up numbers again...an argument from randU fallacy.

Many businesses were DESTROYED during the pandemic Hoax. They are NOT coming back. Many people went on permanent welfare. Business are opening, but they can't get any workers because they would rather be on welfare.

 

[Into the Night]

Hey, be fair! It was more like 12.5 million. The other 500,000 were added in the last 3 or so years, the worst jobs record of any modern president...

Jobs in government do not really count.

 

[Into the Night]

Ah! Negotiating by hiding docs, lying about them, and showing them off to friends!

Mindless chanting.

Trump didn't hide anything, didn't lie about anything, and didn't show any documents to his friends.

 

[Into the Night]

Will trump kill himself in jail or will Bubba make him his bitch?

You misspelled 'Biden' again.

 

[Into the Night]

Does it matter, the attorneys have acknowledged them.

Now you are saying he showed them to attorneys???

 

[Into the Night]

Ronnie is running about the worst campaign imaginable. I would suggest you look elsewhere.

You misspelled Biden again.

 

[Into the Night]

I just dont understand how anyone can support a man like trump, who is a liar, cheat, rapist, thief, egomaniac, dishonest, and a whole bunch more. Those are just a few of his "strong" points.

You are describing yourself again, not Trump.

 

[Into the Night]

False.


The POTUS has the power as part of a PROCESS.

Meaning no one but him can use the PROCESS to unilaterally decide to classify or declassify but it only happens WITHIN the process. In this case a 2 Step process.


You do understand that you can be given a power that requires you act within a process right?


Trump and his WH lawyers and Mark Meadows went to court to make clear what that process was when Trump prior used his Step 1 power and either stated on the News (verbal) or wrote in Twitter (official gov't writing) that certain documents were declassified.

By your standard that is done. Trump has that power and he said it or wrote it so it is done. That is what the media argued too in court when they then filed FOIA requests to get the declassified doc's.

But Trump and his WH lawyers and Mark Meadows went in to court 3 times and said, NOPE. Sorry, media but Trump just doing Part 1 and stating or writing they are declassified is not enough. They argued HE MUST ALSO follow thru with Step 2 and demand the relevant committees take the steps to actually declassify them. They argued in none of these 3 instances did Trump follow with Step 2 and thus NOTHING got declassified.

The Judge agree and the Trump team won in all 3 cases.

- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency



So your position is not arguing with me, and is arguing with the rare Trump court case wins.

Trump PROVED in court, when it had not been tested prior, that the declassification process DOES NOT happen unless Step 2 is ordered and completed.

No 'process' needed. Trump has all the authority he needs to retain any document he wishes, including classified ones.

 

[Into the Night]

And re the above.

Under the Espionage Act the documents do not have to be classified to be illegal to have. They just need to be gov't documents. You know what classified documents become once declassified. They simply become gov't doc's.

It is still illegal for Trump, an ex gov't official (POTUS) to have them.

The Espionage Act does not apply here. It is legal for Trump to have them.

 

[Into the Night]

But you took 18 million jobs away with the biological attack you launched...

More than that. About 22 million.
Source: Dept of Labor

 

[Into the Night]

I am truly shocked at the damage trump did to our economy.

So you consider a vibrant economy 'damage', eh?

It is DEMOCRATS the caused the current economic depression, using the Covid Hoax to do start it.