Marx

[IBDaMann]

A sock of whom? This, like all else you profess to "know," simply isn't so.

The call "SOCK!" is made by the desperate who need to buy time because they are losing ... again. All who read his abandonment of the topic at hand to call you a sock are totally aware that you got him up against the ropes and knocked him down for the count. He's just desperate to change to subject. Your avatar has nothing to do with the topic of discussion.

 

[BidenPresident]

Marx is giving very practical advice. If you work in a factory you should form a union in order to negotiate with the owners and managers. Quite the opposite feeling like a victim.

 

[IBDaMann]

Then you never read Marx.

You don't get to declare what I have and have not read.

If you would actually like to read either the The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital you can read them, free of charge, on Politiplex.

Das Kapital is about how capitalism produces wealth. But who does it produce wealth for--the owners.

Marx spends an inordinate amount of time pretending that earning wages somehow does not bring any wealth to he who gets paid.

There is no "power" in free market price realization. Learn the supply-demand curve.

 

[AProudLefty]

Totally stupid. I don't need to read any further.

The word "capitalism" is just Marx's slur for sound economic principles. Marx was a lazy bastard who was non-competitive in a world of competition, and he pouted and cried "That's NOT FAIR!"

So, in his mind, he anthropomorphized economics and made it the evil archvillain of his sad little world. Instead of treating it as the supply-demand curve model that it is, Marx was forever portraying economics in the same way Christians portray Satan, complete with magical superpowers and the incessant desire to destroy humanity. Those who are stupid enough to fall for it really have no one else to blame. Don't be gullible.

Economics does not have any stages. Economics models are tools to facilitate the building of economies that create wealth, that add value to society and that improve the lives of everyone participating in the economy.

Your say so does not make it so.

Cope.

 

[AProudLefty]

I get it. You are rather embarrassed for not having done your homework before firing off a stupid post. I recommend performing due diligence next time and conducting a modicum of research before posting, to catch the egregious errors before you have to backpedal.

Yes, your post was really stupid, but I think I made that abundantly clear.

You will never be a sane poster.

Cope.

 

[AProudLefty]

Marx was not an economist. He hated economics and created an anti-economics religion: Marxism. I see that you are a preacher of this religion, which means that you suck at economics (a hard, fast requirement of the religion).


Das Kapital is more of a "Satanic Bible" (economics-wise) than it is any sort of economics textbook. The volumes have nothing to do with economics. I presume you either haven't read them, or you really have no idea what economics is and conflate it with a passionate hatred for economics.

Das Kapital is nothing more than bitching and moaning and whining and griping and complaining ... and NEVER addresses economics.


Stupid, uneducated comment. Economics never goes bankrupt. Economics never needs any sort of bailout. Go to school and learn something.

You will never understand economics.

Cope.

 

[BidenPresident]

You don't get to declare what I have and have not read.

If you would actually like to read either the The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital you can read them, free of charge, on Politiplex.


Marx spends an inordinate amount of time pretending that earning wages somehow does not bring any wealth to he who gets paid.

There is no "power" in free market price realization. Learn the supply-demand curve.

No, income is not wealth. Wealthy is the concentration of money and used to get more wealth.

 

[AProudLefty]

Let's analyze this. Perhaps we can get gfm7175 to arbitrate; gfm7175 is my go-to authority on Jesus:

@gfm7175 ... did Jesus:

... abolish property in land, and call for all rents of land to public purposes?

... issue a commandment for a heavy progressive or graduated income tax?

... abolish all right of inheritance?

... confiscate the property of all emigrants and rebels?

... centralize credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly?

... centralize the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State?

... extend factories and instruments of production owned by the State, bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan?

... impose equal liability of all to labor while establishing industrial armies, especially for agriculture?

... combine agriculture with manufacturing industries while gradually abolitishing the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country?

... provide free education for all children in public schools while abolishing children's factory labour in its present form? Did he combine education with industrial production?


I am eager to find out more about Jesus' socialism.

That is Communism, not socialism.

You will never understand economics.

Cope.

 

[AProudLefty]

Sure he did, he was a freelance writer.

He never held a job - but he sold articles to a dozen different Newspapers, including the New York Tribune.

Wow. You made sense for once!

 

[goat]

Wow. You made sense for once!

Google must have got it right for once.

 

[IBDaMann]

That is Communism, not socialism.

Incorrect. It is the socialism needed to achieve communism.

Don't worry. Being deaf isn't a death sentence. There are still some things you can learn.

You will never understand economics.

Too funny. You think economics is a Marxist religion! What are you, deaf? Oh well, I'm sure you'll cope.

 

[IBDaMann]

No, income is not wealth.

Income becomes wealth once it is received, becoming an asset at that point. Check the accounting. I specifically wrote "gets paid" which is the moment of receipt.

Wealthy is the concentration of money and used to get more wealth.

Incorrect.

 

[BidenPresident]

Income becomes wealth once it is received, becoming an asset at that point. Check the accounting. I specifically wrote "gets paid" which is the moment of receipt.


Incorrect.

Capitalism is not merchantilism.

 

[AProudLefty]

Incorrect. It is the socialism needed to achieve communism.

And? It is the Capitalism needed to achieve fascism.

Don't worry. Being deaf isn't a death sentence. There are still some things you can learn.


Too funny. You think economics is a Marxist religion! What are you, deaf? Oh well, I'm sure you'll cope.

Why do you keep talking about my deafness?

 

[AProudLefty]

Income becomes wealth once it is received, becoming an asset at that point. Check the accounting. I specifically wrote "gets paid" which is the moment of receipt.

A one dollar bill is a "wealth"?

You will never understand economics.

Cope.

 

[goat]

That is Communism, not socialism.

You will never understand economics.

Cope.

Socialism has evolved since 1867. The Russian revolution ended with a struggle between 3 different forms of socialism. Yugoslavia was thriving under socialism so the UK and the US decided to remove it from the map. The CIA is constantly overthrowing successful socialist governments in Latin America because they throw the capitalist thieves out and nationalize their resources.

 

[goat]

Marx is giving very practical advice. If you work in a factory you should form a union in order to negotiate with the owners and managers. Quite the opposite feeling like a victim.

Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's not loyal to community or its workers.

 

[BidenPresident]

Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's not loyal to community or its workers.

It does not have to be in direct conflict. But it is up to a democracy to decide how capitalism operates.

 

[AProudLefty]

Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's not loyal to community or its workers.

You are describing Laissez-Faire Capitalism.

 

[goat]

It does not have to be in direct conflict. But it is up to a democracy to decide how capitalism operates.

The CEO is a dictator. Workers have no rights for 1/3 or 1/2 of their day. If the CEO decides to relocate to China, there's nothing the community or workers can do about it.