Doesn't matter. It's evidence tampering and was used for partisan political purposes.
You're too stupid to comprehend the obvious.
New photos show ‘haphazard manner’ in which Trump allegedly stored classified documents: prosecutors
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Doesn't matter. It's evidence tampering and was used for partisan political purposes.
You're too stupid to comprehend the obvious.
Into the Night
Verified User
So you think Mar-a-Lago is insecure because the FBI raided the place?
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Into the Night
Verified User
The law is the basis, Anchovies. You're ignoring it.
Into the Night
Verified User
The Archives delivered them!!
The Archives delivered them!
Quite right. It was later when they egregiously broke the law.
ZenMode
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An opinion backed by a LOT of evidence.
Wrong.
Wrong. You really should check out the Presidential Records Act.
Amazing Breakdown Of New Updates In The Donald Trump Classified Documents Case. Turns out The FBI brought those classified documents coversheets and staged them in the photos taken and then provided them to the media. They turned off body cameras and more “I hope you recognize the classified documents case against Trump is over. But the more we learn about it, the more bullshit it is. So as of this morning, the FBI and Jack Smith have admitted 3 very important things. The first being that the FBI agents were instructed to turn off their body cameras before they arrived at Mar a Lago. Therefore, providing no record of what they actually did and what they actually found, and they have provided no reason whatsoever why those cameras were turned off.They were just instructed to, so they did. Number 2, we found out that all those secret and top secret and top secret SCI cover sheets we saw. You know, from all those pictures they put out to the media showing how many documents Trump had. Yeah. The FBI and Jack Smith have admitted that they brought those cover sheets, that those cover sheets were not included with the Trump documents, that the FBI actually brought a bunch of cover sheets with them, so they could stage photos, which in case you're unaware of how, like, chain of custody works when it comes to evidence, you cannot f**king do that.Mainly because there's no proof whatsoever that all they brought was cover sheets. Like they say they only brought cover sheets, but there's no proof of that whatsoever. And then they remove the cover sheets before they put them in boxes for evidence, and you can't do that because it f**ks up the whole chain of custody. And even worse than those two things, we find that the appointment of Jack Smith as a special counsel is unconstitutional. They had no legal right to appoint a special counsel.Because first of all, a special counsel has to be appointed by the president. President Biden did not appoint Jack Smith. The next step for a special counsel is they have to be confirmed by the senate. And because he was never appointed by Biden, he never went before the senate. The only other way they could have appointed a special counsel is if there was a special counsel statute.That statute does not exist. Now there was such a thing as an independent counsel statute, but that was independent counsel statute, but that was expired before they appointed Jack Smith as a special counsel. Jack Smith is not a special counsel. He's not an independent counsel either. There was no legal way whatsoever to appoint Jack Smith to be a special counsel without being appointed by Joe Biden and being confirmed by the senate.He is occupying a position that was unconstitutionally created. A position that is being paid for by the American people, unconstitutionally. There are so many ways that this is never gonna be a f**king trial. I mean, first of all, they intentionally turned off their body cams. 2, they f**ked with the chain of custody of evidence by bringing cover sheets with them.And 3, Jack Smith isn't even a real special counsel. Now I know the liberal media is gonna tell you that this case isn't going to trial because Trump delayed it. It's got a Trump judge. No. This isn't gonna go to trial because they've done everything wrong.You can't turn off the cameras to hide evidence. You can't add evidence and then remove it and f**k with the chain of custody, and you can't illegally appoint special counsels. This case is done.”
ZenMode
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When the staff has access to classified docs, that is a problem.
ZenMode
Well-known member
"Turns out The FBI brought those classified documents coversheets and staged them in the photos taken and then provided them to the media. "
So, the FBI didn't take pictures of the ACTUAL content of classified docs and give it to the media to publish all over the world?
Well, that's a relief! Talk about a major faux pas if THAT happened!
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They should not have done regime propaganda photos at all, but they could not resist.
Into the Night
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At least until the FBI thugs showed up!
Biden was NEVER authorized to have those documents. The only way he could have obtained them in the first place is by stealing them. Worse, he exposed them to agents traveling to Ukraine and China (Hunter Biden). Joe Biden accepted money from those two governments for personal gain (an act of treason).
They won't. They'll just continue to deny, deny, deny; and blame everybody else for what they did.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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No.
ExpressLane
Verified User
You mean the facility guarded by the Secret Service?
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Or on a thumb drive in his lawyer's office across town...
Or, his ghost writers office.
Really? What part?
Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978
The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents, and subsequently NARA, must manage the records of their Administrations. The PRA was amended in 2014, which established several new provisions.Specifically, the PRA:
- Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.
- Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records.
- Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
- Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
- Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing.
- Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA.
- Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.
- Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.
- Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489).
- Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.
- Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.)
- Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.