No one has a right to healthcare

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't see the words "life", "liberty", and "pursuit of happiness".
 
there is a car crash

the station wagon containing a small family rolls over three times ejecting a small child and as it comes to rest it bursts into flames.


people try to put out the flames but cant.


the car burns completely up


the small child is left bleeding in the street because she has no paper work to prove she has insuranace.



she dies in massive pain


that is the world you evil con seek







would you allow her to die in the street or get care


which is it?
 
there is a car crash

the station wagon containing a small family rolls over three times ejecting a small child and as it comes to rest it bursts into flames.


people try to put out the flames but cant.


the car burns completely up


the small child is left bleeding in the street because she has no paper work to prove she has insuranace.



she dies in massive pain


that is the world you evil con seek







would you allow her to die in the street or get care


which is it?

Without Obamacare, she gets the car she needs. Doctors and hospitals have been donating their skills LONG before you fucking idiots got the dumbass idea that you were OWED free care, you ignorant moron.

All Obamacare did was jack up premiums, cause a few FUCKING MILLION to lose their health insurance and another FUCKING MILLION to lose their jobs.

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so you believe that the liberty that the founders were talking about does not include the right to stay alive even when the founders were on record saying this?
 
The capitalists want to deny ordinary people life, to preserve their sick old system. The Founding Fathers have been underground a long time, and know nothing about our world. If the capitalists want to kill people, hang the murderous buggers!
 
there is a car crash

the station wagon containing a small family rolls over three times ejecting a small child and as it comes to rest it bursts into flames.


people try to put out the flames but cant.


the car burns completely up


the small child is left bleeding in the street because she has no paper work to prove she has insuranace.



she dies in massive pain


that is the world you evil con seek







would you allow her to die in the street or get care


which is it?

Invalid scenario.

What I propose is YOU pay the bill when it comes.
 
The capitalists want to deny ordinary people life, to preserve their sick old system. The Founding Fathers have been underground a long time, and know nothing about our world. If the capitalists want to kill people, hang the murderous buggers!

Get a rope and personally try your luck. Don't be surprised when you fail miserably.
 
so you believe that the liberty that the founders were talking about does not include the right to stay alive even when the founders were on record saying this?

I believe that no right involves someone else's right being lessened.
 
so you believe that the liberty that the founders were talking about does not include the right to stay alive even when the founders were on record saying this?

how can you say that with a straight face while trying to disarm millions of people, denying them effective tools to stay alive?
 
"General welfare" just might include healthcare...

No.

That term does not expand any powers beyond those conferred in Article I.

Madison foresaw and warned against such misconstruction of "general welfare" to expand the powers of Congress beyond those specifically conferred:

"If Congress can apply money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may establish teachers in every State, county, and parish, and pay them out of the public Treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post roads. In short, every thing, from the highest object of State legislation, down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress; for every object I have mentioned would admit the application of money, and might be called, if Congress pleased, provisions for the general welfare."​


And on another occasion:


"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.”​
 
"General welfare" just might include healthcare...

"General welfare" to you entitlement minded retards on the left means that if you WANT it, it's a right and if you WANT it and can't AFFORD it, someone else should be forced to fund it for you. That's how you translate the term. It doesn't mean that it's just how you translate it.
 
No.

That term does not expand any powers beyond those conferred in Article I.

Madison foresaw and warned against such misconstruction of "general welfare" to expand the powers of Congress beyond those specifically conferred:

"If Congress can apply money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may establish teachers in every State, county, and parish, and pay them out of the public Treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post roads. In short, every thing, from the highest object of State legislation, down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress; for every object I have mentioned would admit the application of money, and might be called, if Congress pleased, provisions for the general welfare."​


And on another occasion:


"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.”​

In other words, lefties believe whatever they WANT is a right and if someone can't afford it, others should be forced to provide it to them. That's how they view general welfare.
 
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