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Mott the Hoople said:
Not if UGA beats Bama. Then both OSU and OK are left out. If Bama does win it sucks that either team is left out as they earned the opportunity on the field.

But you know what? The CFP is becoming as big a joke as the BCS. Part of me would rather see the Bucks play in the Rose Bowl.
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If Bama wins the SEC Championship, how does it suck that either OSU and OK are going to be left out? Providing Clemson wins their conference championship, there will be 3 undefeated teams in the top 4. Those teams will have earned the opportunity on the field.

6 or 8 team playoff?
 
WinterBorn said:
If Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC Championship, Alabama might still get into the playoffs. But then, Alabama's only loss would be to a highly ranked team with one loss. OSU's loss is to an unranked team that went 6-6 in the regular season. That is not bias. That is picking the better team.
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Thats bias. You lose to GA and you didn’t earn it on the field. Record be damned.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It shouldn’t be an issue. Expand the playoff to 8. Automatic bids for ACC, AAC, BIG, Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC champs and two at large.
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I agree with half of that. But the automatic bid for conference champs is a no go. The PAC 12 conference championship will have a 10-2 team playing a 9-3 team. If the 9-3 team wins, you want them in the playoffs over a team with an 11-1 record? No. Losing 3 games and getting in, while another team loses only one and is locked out is not an answer.
 
WinterBorn said:
You want compassion? From this place? LMAO!!

But really, USC only lost by 7 points. So it wasn't the beat-down you were expecting.

And while I can only speak for myself, I don't spend any time thinking about your anus.
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Beat down or not. The Trojans are watching the bowl games from home this year.
 
WinterBorn said:
I agree with half of that. But the automatic bid for conference champs is a no go. The PAC 12 conference championship will have a 10-2 team playing a 9-3 team. If the 9-3 team wins, you want them in the playoffs over a team with an 11-1 record? No. Losing 3 games and getting in, while another team loses only one and is locked out is not an answer.
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It works for the NFL. The best SB of all-time featured undefeated New England against the 10-6 New Jersey Giants.
 
Threedee said:
It works for the NFL. The best SB of all-time featured undefeated New England against the 10-6 New Jersey Giants.
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The difference is the size of the playoff and the size of the pool of teams.

In the NFL, there are 32 teams competing for 12 spots. 38% get into the playoffs.
In NCAA FBS, there are 129 teams that would be competing for 8 spots. 6% would get into the playoffs.
 
WinterBorn said:
If Bama wins the SEC Championship, how does it suck that either OSU and OK are going to be left out? Providing Clemson wins their conference championship, there will be 3 undefeated teams in the top 4. Those teams will have earned the opportunity on the field.

6 or 8 team playoff?
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the sec would never permit a six team playoff where you can only qualify by winning your conference. They would have to have a mythical better team based on opinion than earning it on the field.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That and you don’t have a win comparable to our win blowing out the #4 team. As far as I’m concerned if both teams win their championship game they have earned the option the field. Which is the only true objective measure.
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WinterBorn said:
The difference is the size of the playoff and the size of the pool of teams.

In the NFL, there are 32 teams competing for 12 spots. 38% get into the playoffs.
In NCAA FBS, there are 129 teams that would be competing for 8 spots. 6% would get into the playoffs.
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A meaningless statistic if you use objective criteria, like a conference championship, vs inherently biased selection committees.
 
WinterBorn said:
If Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC Championship, Alabama might still get into the playoffs. But then, Alabama's only loss would be to a highly ranked team with one loss. OSU's loss is to an unranked team that went 6-6 in the regular season. That is not bias. That is picking the better team.
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if Alabama loses to UGA and OSU, OK and Clemson win their conference and Alabama is chosen over a one loss Conference champ it is absolute proof positive of SEC bias and that the CFP is rigged. This isn’t last year where the choice was between a 1 loss Alabama who didn’t win their conference and a two loss OSU.

If OSU and OK win their conference championship game and Alabama loses their OSU and OK the better team by objective standards. Who Alabama loses to and when doesn’t mean squat. It only mean they all three lost a game but OSU and OK won their conference championship and Alabama didn’t. They are objectively better teams by winning their championship game on the field as opposed to resumee and opinion.

Then when you look at the back rigging of the polls with a 2 loss LSU team that’s only beaten two ranked opponents and is ranked ahead of One loss OSU and OK and Mississippi States ranking as the top 4 loss team, that is manipulation to pad Bamas resume should they lose. You need to look no further for evidence of SEC bias then that.

If SEC Bias doesn’t exist then a one loss Non Conference Champ will not be chosen over Two P5 one loss conference champs.

So if Bama loses to UGA and is selected over one loss OSU or OK then all hell will break lose.
 
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F You Lynn Swann for retaining Clay Helton. USC football is my true love and I've never had this much disdain for my beloved University. Unreal.
 
WinterBorn said:
Horseshit.

If you see no difference between losing to a team that is unranked with a 6-6 regular season record, and losing to a division champion with an 11-1 record, you have lost it.
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And if you don’t understand winning your conference championship you don’t grasp objective standards.

To say another team is better than an other cause of how they lost a game is cray-cray. If OSU wins next week and Bama doesn’t OSU is a P5 Conference Champ and Bama is not. They would have equal records and OSU met an objective requirement (or what should be) and Bama didn’t. Anything other than that is subjective opinion.

Hopefully Bama will moot that by winning.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
the sec would never permit a six team playoff where you can only qualify by winning your conference. They would have to have a mythical better team based on opinion than earning it on the field.
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I have no idea what the conference would do. But, as I pointed out earlier, the PAC12 winner may well have 3 losses. If Georgia wins the SEC Championship, Alabama will have 1 loss. How you can say that Utah earned it on the field, when they lost 3 games?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
A meaningless statistic if you use objective criteria, like a conference championship, vs inherently biased selection committees.
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Basing it all on a single game, especially in college football, will result in more inferior teams making the playoffs and locking out better teams.

It has to be the body of work for the season. One of the things I love about college football is the potential for ANY team to win on a given day. But over 12 games, you see who is better. A perfect example is that a 6-6 Purdue beat Ohio State by 29 points. No one in their right mind thinks Purdue is a better overall team than Ohio State.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
And if you don’t understand winning your conference championship you don’t grasp objective standards.

To say another team is better than an other cause of how they lost a game is cray-cray. If OSU wins next week and Bama doesn’t OSU is a P5 Conference Champ and Bama is not. They would have equal records and OSU met an objective requirement (or what should be) and Bama didn’t. Anything other than that is subjective opinion.

Hopefully Bama will moot that by winning.
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It is not HOW they lost a game. It is to whom they lost it.

Being beaten by a 1 loss division champion who is ranked in the top 10 or being beaten by an unranked 6-6 team. Are you saying that those are the same?
 
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