Shokin!

Tinkerpeach said:
Bad deflection.
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Last time you claimed to have some super true evidence re. WMD in Iraq, you looked like an idiot because your link refuted your lie.

Which is why you will never link your idiotic claims now.

You get your info from Russian state controlled media.

Nobody is interested. If your spelling/grammar wasn't so good, I would swear you were Anatta.
 
Althea said:
Last time you claimed to have some super true evidence re. WMD in Iraq, you looked like an idiot because your link refuted your lie.

Which is why you will never link your idiotic claims now.

You get your info from Russian state controlled media.

Nobody is interested. If your spelling/grammar wasn't so good, I would swear you were Anatta.
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They found over 500 shells containing gas which are classified as WMD's by the UN.

There was no lie.
 
Althea said:
Mexico doesn't have a govt. that was installed by trump's campaign manager for Putin.
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Mexico is filled by far more corrupt people than Ukraine so why wasn't Biden sent there.

Why wasn't he sent to Nigeria that also has very high corruption?

Why was he sent to the one place to fire a guy that had business dealings with his son?
 
Althea said:
Don't waste the keystrokes. This has been thoroughly covered long ago. During trump's first impeachment, actually. When everyone who wasn't paying attention until then learned that trump's campaign manager was a Russian operative.
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You are correct. Troll status.

One to be ignored.
 
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Tinkerpeach said:
Mexico is filled by far more corrupt people than Ukraine so why wasn't Biden sent there.

Why wasn't he sent to Nigeria that also has very high corruption?

Why was he sent to the one place to fire a guy that had business dealings with his son?
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Lie
 
T. A. Gardner said:
reform was putting a completely incompetent, vicious drunkard in place of Shokin as Ukraine's chief prosecutor and then the same people wanting Shokin gone do nothing about it?
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In 2015 the Obama administration, along with the EU and the IMF, were pressing for Shokin to be replaced as Prosecutor General of Ukraine. According to the Trump/Giuliani theory, this was to stop Shokin pursuing his supposed investigation of Burisma. Do you believe that was the case?

Btw, I can find no evidence that Shokin's replacement, Yuri Lutsenko, was a "vicious drunkard" (indeed, he is a Commander of the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise Fifth Class, lol). Could you provide a link to his vices, please?
 
Cypress said:
Somebody needs to bookmark these MAGA threads so we can laugh at them a year from now when their latest conspiracy theories go the way of the Kraken.
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There will be another. Just keep feeding Trumpys lies and they will stay on board. Trump is a serial liar who built up to the big lie. He keeps telling that one and his followers still believe it.
 
domer76 said:
You are correct. Troll status.

One to be ignored.
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Tink was added to my ignore list.

They made some attempt to defend positions prior but as those have been destroyed they just resort to pure trolling now, so no point in feeding the troll.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
In 2015 the Obama administration, along with the EU and the IMF, were pressing for Shokin to be replaced as Prosecutor General of Ukraine. According to the Trump/Giuliani theory, this was to stop Shokin pursuing his supposed investigation of Burisma. Do you believe that was the case?
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In part, yes. I think it was one motivation for his removal. I say that on the basis of who his replacement was. Lutsenko was wholly and totally unqualified to replace Shokin, but did make an excellent useful idiot.

Btw, I can find no evidence that Shokin's replacement, Yuri Lutsenko, was a "vicious drunkard" (indeed, he is a Commander of the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise Fifth Class, lol). Could you provide a link to his vices, please?
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Starting with the simplest source:

In early May 2009, Lutsenko became entangled in a scandal concerning his behaviour during a visit to Germany. According to the German newspaper Bild, Oleksandr Lutsenko, his son, was detained at Frankfurt Airport by the German police in a state of acute alcohol intoxication. The Ukrainian Interior Ministry dismissed these allegations.[a] On 12 May 2009, Yuriy Lutsenko sent in his resignation from the post of interior minister. In his letter of resignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuriy_Lutsenko

Ukrainian Interior Minister Yury Lutsenko was detained by police at the Frankfurt airport and prevented from boarding his flight because of drunken and disorderly conduct, police said Wednesday.

Lutsenko, 44, was prevented from boarding a flight to Seoul, South Korea, on Monday after airport officials noticed that he and his 19-year-old son, with whom he was traveling, were severely drunk, a Frankfurt police spokesman said.
https://www.rferl.org/a/Drunk_Ukrainian_Minister_Detained_At_Airport/1623342.html

An intoxicated Ukrainian Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko and his son Oleksandr caused a scene at the Frankfurt airport this week when a German Lufthansa pilot refused to allow them onto a plane, daily Bild reported on Wednesday.
https://www.thelocal.de/20090506/19101

In 2008, Mr Lutsenko was accused of assaulting then Kiev mayor Leonid Chernovetsky, whom he accused of corruption.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25695982

German reports said the minister and his son had reacted angrily to being prevented from boarding a flight and thrown their mobile phones at officers.
Four policemen were injured in the incident, German media cited police as saying
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8045773.stm
 
T. A. Gardner said:
In part, yes. I think it was one motivation for his removal. I say that on the basis of who his replacement was. Lutsenko was wholly and totally unqualified to replace Shokin, but did make an excellent useful idiot.



Starting with the simplest source:

In early May 2009, Lutsenko became entangled in a scandal concerning his behaviour during a visit to Germany. According to the German newspaper Bild, Oleksandr Lutsenko, his son, was detained at Frankfurt Airport by the German police in a state of acute alcohol intoxication. The Ukrainian Interior Ministry dismissed these allegations.[a] On 12 May 2009, Yuriy Lutsenko sent in his resignation from the post of interior minister. In his letter of resignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuriy_Lutsenko

Ukrainian Interior Minister Yury Lutsenko was detained by police at the Frankfurt airport and prevented from boarding his flight because of drunken and disorderly conduct, police said Wednesday.

Lutsenko, 44, was prevented from boarding a flight to Seoul, South Korea, on Monday after airport officials noticed that he and his 19-year-old son, with whom he was traveling, were severely drunk, a Frankfurt police spokesman said.
https://www.rferl.org/a/Drunk_Ukrainian_Minister_Detained_At_Airport/1623342.html

An intoxicated Ukrainian Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko and his son Oleksandr caused a scene at the Frankfurt airport this week when a German Lufthansa pilot refused to allow them onto a plane, daily Bild reported on Wednesday.
https://www.thelocal.de/20090506/19101

In 2008, Mr Lutsenko was accused of assaulting then Kiev mayor Leonid Chernovetsky, whom he accused of corruption.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25695982

German reports said the minister and his son had reacted angrily to being prevented from boarding a flight and thrown their mobile phones at officers.
Four policemen were injured in the incident, German media cited police as saying
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8045773.stm
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Please provide any data you have that shows those who pushed for Shokin's removal (EU, IMF, US, etc) had any input in Lutsenko being chosen next and that was not in internal Ukraine choice?
 
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