Should Obama toughen up on immigration

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just to play politics and beat Mcain.
The american people are way right of the dems on this issue and wa all know nothing much will get done on it. Why shouldn't he just move right on it.:clink:
 
he shouldn't conceed an issue that may cost him millions of votes or the election when nothing will be done anyway.
Make it a non-loser by being close to Mcain on it.
 
You just said you want immigrants coming in and getting drivers licenses. Why are you now complaining about wage depression?

No. I don't WANT that. I will support OBAMA in spite of that position, because mccain's is not different and it's the Age of the Black Man.
 
Should Obama toughen up on immigration just to play politics and beat Mcain.

No.

Obama should toughen up on immigration (that is, build the fence, [patrol it adequately, penalize employers who knowingly hire illegals, and deport every illegal who runs afoul of law enforcement or the justice system) because it is the right thing to do, and in the best interests of the United States, while doing no harm to others that they hadn't directly created for themselves by breaking our laws in the first place.

Not just to play politics and beat McCain.
 
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LOL little acorn pup- your not delusional thinking Mcain will do that if he wins and doesn't die in the first 9 months.
 
No.

Obama should toughen up on immigration (that is, build the fence, [patrol it adequately, penalize employers who knowingly hire illegals, and deport every illegal who runs afoul of law enforcement or the justice system) because it is the right thing to do, and in the best interests of the United States, while doing no harm to others that they hadn't directly created for themselves by breaking our laws in the first place.

Not just to play politics and beat McCain.

Only an idiot would say that ethnic cleansing is in the best interest of the united states.
 
Obama should stay the course on immigration that he's presently on.

New Hampshire Democratic primary voters:

1. The economy
2. The war in Iraq
3. Health care

New Hampshire Republican primary voters:

1. The economy
2. The war in Iraq
3. Terrorism
4. Illegal immigration


Immigration is a media driven boogeyman.
 
Only an idiot would say that ethnic cleansing is in the best interest of the united states.


It's not ethnic cleansing. it's enforcing the concept of citizenship and the right to control who is in your nation. It's based on legality not ethnicity. Citizenship means something, and citizens have an interest in enforcing it's value. All citizens, regardless of ethnicity.
 
HE should represent the american people,

What if the American people want immigrants to stay? It's pretty safe to say, that if the people elect Obama, they want him to represent them.

instead of contrived abstractions like gdp.

It's not contrived, and anyone could represent it on a piece of paper.

Any candidate which actually puts americans first will win.

Of course, because by doing what's best for America, you are putting America last.

THings like this used to be a no brainer.


Yes, especially to our founding fathers, who put in place an open immigration policy until the racist immigration fearmongers came into power after the 1860's and demanded controls to keep the darkies out.
 
It's not ethnic cleansing. it's enforcing the concept of citizenship and the right to control who is in your nation. It's based on legality not ethnicity. Citizenship means something, and citizens have an interest in enforcing it's value. All citizens, regardless of ethnicity.

You are fucking kidding me if you think that there would be this fuss if the immigrants spoke English and were white. If it were Canadians streaming over the border, we'd be glad to have them. Sand-negros, not so much.
 
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