Texas urges residents to cut power usage as prices surge

[Althea]

No, it didn't and I've proven that here at least twice already.

You've lied twice. You've proved nothing.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You've lied twice. You've proved nothing.

Is a delusion really a lie?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Really? What do you think they do with spent uranium? Hint...we dumped thousands of them in Iraq.

Depleted uranium is material left over after enrichment. It isn't used in nuclear power plants, nor is it made from spent fuel that is chock-a-block with fission fragments that aren't uranium at all.

 

[Althea]

Is a delusion really a lie?

Not if you believe it

 

[Althea]

Depleted uranium is material left over after enrichment. It isn't used in nuclear power plants, nor is it made from spent fuel that is chock-a-block with fission fragments that aren't uranium at all.

LMAO.

So nuke power is produced without enriched uranium. That's fascinating.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

LMAO.

So nuke power is produced without enriched uranium. That's fascinating.

It can be. PWR and BWR reactors require about 3 to 5% enrichment. Nuclear weapons run around 90% +. Fast fission reactors running on (variously) molten sodium, heavy water, or graphite as a moderator don't require enrichment.

 

[ptif219]

I don't have to know how things work. I can just look at the conclusions and facts.

And that is Dems are dominant and smart and republi'cans' are useless and dumb.


If you can give Republi'cans' a State like Texas and all the power positions and yet DEMS STILL RUN SHIT THERE, that just exposes how weak the republi'cans' are. Sorry if you don't like that truth. How much more power do Republi'cans' need before they can actually wield power?


If you can give a GOP POTUS like Trump all the levers of power (AG, DoJ, FBI) and yet DEMS STILL RUN SHIT THERE, that just further exposes how weak the republi'cans' are. Sorry if you don't like that truth. How much more power do Republi'cans' need before they can actually wield power?

You are showing your bias and partisan views that are based on Democrat lies

 

[ptif219]

A drop in the bucket, so to speak.

That is a lot of land that no longer produces food

 

[ptif219]

More proof redneck red state leaders can't manage their infrastructures and power grids because they're too obsessed with reelecting Trump, blocking Mexicans and writing laws and regulations which allow themselves and their corporate CEO buddies to line their own pockets instead of keeping things up to date.

No, proof wind and solar can't replace fossile fuel

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Not if you believe it

Agreed. In that case it's just a delusion. A good reason to get the person some help and take away their firearms, access to the Internet and right to vote.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No, proof wind and solar can't replace fossile fuel

"Gasoline engine automobiles will never replace the horse." -- some 19th century geezer

"The horse has been around for thousands of years, doesn't need special filling stations or parts. They are self-replicating and live on grass, which is everywhere".

 

[QP!]

You might ask who's subsidizing that...

Why?


You do not ask or care about O&G subsidies and even deny them existing, past or present.

Will you admit now that O&G and ICE Manufacturers have been one of the largest beneficiaries of subsidies world wide for most of their industries existence?

 

[QP!]

You are showing your bias and partisan views that are based on Democrat lies

No.

I am replying to the inevitable conclusion of your derp posts.

If in fact it is "the Left' who is to blame in Texas because of Renewable Energy presence in the grid, then the Left is proving they have VAST VAST power, that even in a State like Texas with all Republicans in power, it is really the Left still in power driving decisions that even the Governor is against.

How much power do we have to give the Right/GOP before they will be responsible for decisions in a State like Texas re things like renewables? At what point do Dems stopping running everything?


This is a version of the same argument you make with Trump indictments that even when he is POTUS, and it is his own AG, DoJ and a GOP Special Counsel, who investigate and prosecute his admin, it is really the Dem's and their witch hunt. You are admitting the Dems have MASSIVE power that n matter how much power we give the GOP (POTUS, AG, DOJ, FBI, SC, SC) it is still the Dems running EVERYTHING!

It is your arguments Dems are all powerful. We are INEVITABLE!

 

[Nomad]

No, proof wind and solar can't replace fossile fuel

There has never been "proof" that any new technology would or could replace existing technology.

Was there proof back in 1910 that a new fangled contraption called the automobile with its internal combustion engine could replace the horse and buggy?

Was there any proof back then that the "aeroplane" could someday replace ground based transportation?

I could go on and on, but the point is that the short-sightedness of people like you (all on the right) is more about politics than being convinced these new technologies have no chance of being perfected and replacing fossil fuels.

You idiots are so thick-skulled and obtuse, the only thing that drives your antipathy towards anything and everything you profess disdain for, is whether or not the "libs" are for it.

Such is the level of ignorance and stupidity that we are forced to deal with on the right.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

There has never been "proof" that any new technology would or could replace existing technology.

Agreed. The proof is merely presumed when the new technology becomes more prevalent than the earlier existing tech.
That happens for a demonstrable reason, usually.

This could very well happen with new power generation strategies
but has it actually happened yet?

 

[Nomad]

Agreed. The proof is merely presumed when the new technology becomes more prevalent than the earlier existing tech.
That happens for a demonstrable reason, usually.

This could very well happen with new power generation strategies
but has it actually happened yet?

Not yet, but what these righties cannot or will not seem to grasp, is that we'll never get to that point by giving up on these new technologies as they want us to do, just to satisfy their political agenda.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Why?


You do not ask or care about O&G subsidies and even deny them existing, past or present.

Will you admit now that O&G and ICE Manufacturers have been one of the largest beneficiaries of subsidies world wide for most of their industries existence?

As I've repeatedly demonstrated to you, and on this board what you are saying is bullshit. Oil and gas receive next to no subsidies in the US. Most, roughly 90% of those so-called subsidies listed on greentard sites and the like are nothing but accounting methods allowed to any corporation, like using LIFO accounting for order of sales, tax deductions for depreciation of assets and the like.

Now, you can rant on about what other countries are doing in terms of subsidies, but the US doesn't subsidize oil and gas production hardly at all.

On the other hand, solar and wind get huge government grants, tax breaks, and other direct subsidies to operate. Those are real subsidies, not accounting tricks. In addition, many states are mandating a certain percentage of wind and solar generation by various dates, and are paying companies to move to those sources. Like the ones listed here:

https://programs.dsireusa.org/system/program?fromSir=0&state=CA

 

[QP!]

As I've repeatedly demonstrated to you, and on this board what you are saying is bullshit. Oil and gas receive next to no subsidies in the US. Most, roughly 90% of those so-called subsidies listed on greentard sites and the like are nothing but accounting methods allowed to any corporation, like using LIFO accounting for order of sales, tax deductions for depreciation of assets and the like.

Now, you can rant on about what other countries are doing in terms of subsidies, but the US doesn't subsidize oil and gas production hardly at all.

On the other hand, solar and wind get huge government grants, tax breaks, and other direct subsidies to operate. Those are real subsidies, not accounting tricks. In addition, many states are mandating a certain percentage of wind and solar generation by various dates, and are paying companies to move to those sources. Like the ones listed here:

https://programs.dsireusa.org/system/program?fromSir=0&state=CA

Yes but what you tell us is lies.

The United States provides a number of tax subsidies to the fossil fuel industry as a means of encouraging domestic energy production. These include both direct subsidies to corporations, as well as other tax benefits to the fossil fuel industry. Conservative estimates put U.S. direct subsidies to the fossil fuel industry at roughly $20 billion per year; with 20 percent currently allocated to coal and 80 percent to natural gas and crude oil. European Union subsidies are estimated to total 55 billion euros annually....

cite

...HOW MUCH ARE THEY WORTH?
Calculating the cost of U.S. subsidies for the fossil fuel industry is complex because the incentives stretch across the U.S. tax code, but estimates range from $10 to $50 billion per year.

Taxpayer advocates and environmental groups argue the subsidies are inappropriate at a time when the federal government is trying to shift the economy to cleaner forms of energy to fight climate change.

The oil industry counters that the support is needed to ensure ongoing investment and reliable supply...

...WHAT DO THE SUBSIDIES INCLUDE?
U.S. oil and gas subsidies include provisions ranging from incentives for domestic production, write-offs and deductions tied to foreign production and income, and approved accounting methods that can reduce the stated taxable value of assets.

One specific U.S. tax break on domestic production, for example, called intangible drilling costs, allows producers to deduct a majority of their costs from drilling new wells. The Joint Committee on Taxation, a nonpartisan panel of Congress, has estimated that eliminating it could generate $13 billion for the public coffers over 10 years.

Another, the percentage depletion tax break, which allows independent producers to recover development costs of declining oil gas and coal reserves, could generate about $12.9 billion in revenue over 10 years, according to the panel...

cite

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yes but what you tell us is lies.

Maybe you should read the WHOLE citation you made.

U.S. Tax Subsidies to the Fossil Fuel Industry

Intangible Drilling Costs Deduction (26 U.S. Code § 263. Active). This provision allows companies to deduct a majority of the costs incurred from drilling new wells domestically. In its analysis of President Trump’s Fiscal Year 2017 Budget Proposal, the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimated that eliminating tax breaks for intangible drilling costs would generate $1.59 billion in revenue in 2017, or $13 billion in the next ten years.

From the source you cited. That's $13 billion of your $20 billion in so-called subsidies being nothing but taking a tax write off for depreciation on assets. ANY corporation or business can and does do that. That alone wipes out 65% of your claimed subsidies. When you go through the whole list, it comes out over 90% aren't "subsidies" but rather just standard business practices that any corporation or business could use.

 

[Into the Night]

The problem with subsidizing Big Oil is that on the one hand it keeps the price of fuel lower than it might be, but as we now see the free market in this nation is driving the price up artificially. Capitalism will always be about profits above all. We bragged about being the worlds biggest producer a few years ago, only to see Wall St. demand production cuts to hike prices after getting an ass beating due to the trump virus.

I think the Feds. should set up a national oil program and sell at cost. But that's Socialism according to some that ignore govt. bailouts/subsidies as being exactly the same.

Oil is not subsidized.
Trump did not create nor controls any virus.

Capitalism IS about trying to make a profit. A company that doesn't make a profit is being unsuccessful and will disappear or be sold to someone more competent.
To bad you hate profits.