Texas urges residents to cut power usage as prices surge

[Nomad]

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Quite right. Depleted uranium is not even radioactive.

Depleted uranium is radioactive. The level is low because uranium has an extremely long half-life. But it does emit alpha radiation as it decays.

 

[Into the Night]

"Gasoline engine automobiles will never replace the horse." -- some 19th century geezer

Are you that 19th century geezer?

"The horse has been around for thousands of years, doesn't need special filling stations or parts. They are self-replicating and live on grass, which is everywhere".

All of which or true, although most who ride horses use saddles and reins. Wagon wheels were special parts. They were difficult to make and were generally made in special shops (if your last name is Wheelwright, someone in your past made wagon wheels!).

Again, Sock, you fail to recognize the internal combustion engine being very common before they were put into cars. They were used to run pumps and other machinery.

Today's, gasoline car is of a FADEC design, and very efficient. Gaskets in these engines is vastly improved as well, often lasting for the life of the car. These engine designs were developed into their current form just a few years ago.

Meanwhile, EVs use a battery developed some 40 years ago. EVs themselves existed before gasoline cars.

You are just denying history, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

Why?


You do not ask or care about O&G subsidies and even deny them existing, past or present.

Will you admit now that O&G and ICE Manufacturers have been one of the largest beneficiaries of subsidies world wide for most of their industries existence?

Neither oil or natural gas is subsidized.
Gasoline cars are not subsidized.

 

[Into the Night]

No.

I am replying to the inevitable conclusion of your derp posts.

If in fact it is "the Left' who is to blame in Texas because of Renewable Energy presence in the grid, then the Left is proving they have VAST VAST power, that even in a State like Texas with all Republicans in power, it is really the Left still in power driving decisions that even the Governor is against.

How much power do we have to give the Right/GOP before they will be responsible for decisions in a State like Texas re things like renewables? At what point do Dems stopping running everything?


This is a version of the same argument you make with Trump indictments that even when he is POTUS, and it is his own AG, DoJ and a GOP Special Counsel, who investigate and prosecute his admin, it is really the Dem's and their witch hunt. You are admitting the Dems have MASSIVE power that n matter how much power we give the GOP (POTUS, AG, DOJ, FBI, SC, SC) it is still the Dems running EVERYTHING!

It is your arguments Dems are all powerful. We are INEVITABLE!

Wind generators provided NO power during the Freeze. Almost all that power came from coal and natural gas. Natural gas is a renewable fuel. Coal is unknown, but because it is so plentiful and cheap, probably is.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are just denying history, Sock.

YALSA

YALSA

YALSA.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Every day now the situation is sketchy from about 4 to 8 pm...Ercot puts out a call to conserve, the people do around 3-5%, and they just barely make it through.

What a way to live...and this is all voluntary stupidity.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Every day now the situation is sketchy from about 4 to 8 pm...Ercot puts out a call to conserve, the people do around 3-5%, and they just barely make it though.

What a way to live...and this is all voluntary stupidity.

Republican State, Republican Governor, Republican Senate. What could go wrong?

 

[Into the Night]

There has never been "proof" that any new technology would or could replace existing technology.

Sure there has. EVs are not new technology.

Was there proof back in 1910 that a new fangled contraption called the automobile with its internal combustion engine could replace the horse and buggy?

Horses and buggies have not been replaced. They still exist and people still drive them.

Was there any proof back then that the "aeroplane" could someday replace ground based transportation?

It doesn't.

I could go on and on, but the point is that the short-sightedness of people like you (all on the right) is more about politics than being convinced these new technologies have no chance of being perfected and replacing fossil fuels.

Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fuel is not a technology.

You idiots are so thick-skulled and obtuse, the only thing that drives your antipathy towards anything and everything you profess disdain for, is whether or not the "libs" are for it.

The leftists support mandating out of date technology or overly expensive technology (such as EVs, wind power, or solar power).

Such is the level of ignorance and stupidity that we are forced to deal with on the right.

Such is the level of ignorance and stupidity that we are forced to deal with on the right. This leftist ignorance and stupidity is based on denial of science, engineering, and mathematics.

 

[Into the Night]

Agreed. The proof is merely presumed when the new technology becomes more prevalent than the earlier existing tech.
That happens for a demonstrable reason, usually.

This could very well happen with new power generation strategies
but has it actually happened yet?

The newest technology is in gasoline engines, not EVs which are using 40 year old technology.

Novelty fallacy. Discard of history. Just because something is new doesn't automatically make it better.

 

[Into the Night]

Not yet, but what these righties cannot or will not seem to grasp, is that we'll never get to that point by giving up on these new technologies as they want us to do, just to satisfy their political agenda.

The Luddite is YOU.
It is YOU wanting to embrace older technology as somehow 'better'.
Novelty fallacy.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Republican State, Republican Governor, Republican Senate. What could go wrong?

Hopefully they have hired people who know how to do mandatory rationing...remember that is how people ended up without power 12-14 hours when if you do it right nobody goes without power more than two hours.......Ercot could not rotate the outages and keep the grid stable.....they almost lost the grid so they kept the same people without power for long stretches.

Its only a matter of time.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes but what you tell us is lies.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Depleted uranium is radioactive. The level is low because uranium has an extremely long half-life. But it does emit alpha radiation as it decays.

Depleted uranium is not radioactive. It has no U238 in it. It does not decay. It is a stable isotope.

 

[Into the Night]

Republican State, Republican Governor, Republican Senate. What could go wrong?

ERCOT is run by Democrats, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

Hopefully they have hired people who know how to do mandatory rationing...remember that is how people ended up without power 12-14 hours when if you do it right nobody goes without power more than two hours.......Ercot could not rotate the outages and keep the grid stable.....they almost lost the grid so they kept the same people without power for long stretches.

Its only a matter of time.

The Texas grid was stable during the Freeze. It did not fail. The system operators shed load to compensate for lack of generating capacity at the time.

 

[Into the Night]

Every day now the situation is sketchy from about 4 to 8 pm...Ercot puts out a call to conserve, the people do around 3-5%, and they just barely make it through.

What a way to live...and this is all voluntary stupidity.

If there is insufficient generating capacity, the fastest type of plant to build is coal or natural gas. These also happen to be the cheapest to operate.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Texas grid was stable during the Freeze. It did not fail. The system operators shed load to compensate for lack of generating capacity at the time.

So you say....I read that they came within minutes of complete grid failure, which is why they stopped tried to do rolling black-outs.

I also note that you are very often wrong.

 

[Into the Night]

So you say....I read that they came within minutes of complete grid failure, which is why they stopped tried to do rolling black-outs.

I also note that you are very often wrong.

They did come close to grid failure (blackstart). They acted in time, however, by shedding load. The grid was stable.

 

[QP!]

Maybe you should read the WHOLE citation you made.

U.S. Tax Subsidies to the Fossil Fuel Industry

Intangible Drilling Costs Deduction (26 U.S. Code § 263. Active). This provision allows companies to deduct a majority of the costs incurred from drilling new wells domestically. In its analysis of President Trump’s Fiscal Year 2017 Budget Proposal, the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimated that eliminating tax breaks for intangible drilling costs would generate $1.59 billion in revenue in 2017, or $13 billion in the next ten years.

From the source you cited. That's $13 billion of your $20 billion in so-called subsidies being nothing but taking a tax write off for depreciation on assets. ANY corporation or business can and does do that. That alone wipes out 65% of your claimed subsidies. When you go through the whole list, it comes out over 90% aren't "subsidies" but rather just standard business practices that any corporation or business could use.

Right, so for sake of argument lets just accept, without an exact breakout, your estimated numbers. That still leaves very significant current and historic subsidies going in to O&G for decades on end.

So we need to do the same break out for Green Energy, and remove the same items, and compare apples to apples where the current Renewables subsidies stack up against the current and historical O&G ones.

There should be no doubt that O&G is way ahead in subsidies.