Thanks Obamacare

CFM said:
Why would anyone allow such a foolish thing like single payer?
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Would you be able to convince me that it's not the way we should go? Right now, I feel like the ACA is something an oligarchy would want, whereas single-payer would be a democratic approach. The total free-market approach had its issues, specifically with things like pre-existing conditions, that insurance companies couldn't profit from. The Insurance industry used the government to increase the amount of people on their rolls just so they could afford to do the right thing. They needed more healthy people to support those that were unhealthy. Insurance is the same thing as a government run approach. All they do is redistribute money, except they also take a profit.
 
christiefan915 said:
That's obscene. Especially this one.

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LOL! The 1960 dollar inflated by 737% BY 2010. A mere 1% less than your EXTRAORDINARY rise in health care costs.

The heart of the matterThe notable five-year contraction in healthcarespending growth comes to an end next year as thestronger economy releases a pent-up demand forcare and services. Despite some higher utilizationand the cost of expensive new cures, the risein the expected growth rate in 2015 is modestcompared to the double-digit annual increasesseen throughout the late 1990s and early 2000s
https://www.pwc.com/us/en/health-in...es/assets/pwc-hri-medical-cost-trend-2015.pdf

Perhaps you should do what all good GOPers reccommend...............................SHOP AROUND,COPMPARE PRICES!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/u....html?partner=rss&emc=rss&abt=0002&abg=0&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/u...reases-dont-actually-look-like-increases.html
 
evince said:
yes we already know the racist fucking evil sociopaths like you prefer more dead children
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I prefer that those who had those children support their own children. Is that asking too much? I prefer those like you who say someone else deserves whatever taxpayers are providing them prove you care by simply funding it without thinking the government should play a role. If you know someone that can't eat because of lack of money, buy their food for them. Since you don't, you have proven you don't really care.
 
DigitalDave said:
Would you be able to convince me that it's not the way we should go? Right now, I feel like the ACA is something an oligarchy would want, whereas single-payer would be a democratic approach. The total free-market approach had its issues, specifically with things like pre-existing conditions, that insurance companies couldn't profit from. The Insurance industry used the government to increase the amount of people on their rolls just so they could afford to do the right thing. They needed more healthy people to support those that were unhealthy. Insurance is the same thing as a government run approach. All they do is redistribute money, except they also take a profit.
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Can you prove to me that any costs I would pay by it being single payer would be the same or less than I pay now for me and my family? If you can't, that's all I need to know. I'm not in the business of placing higher costs on myself in order that someone else pays a lower costs.

There is a difference between what insurance companies offer and Obamacare. Not joining a particular insurance group didn't have a consequence. I bet you're one of those that equates auto insurance with health insurance. They're nothing alike in their purpose.
 
CFM said:
Can you prove to me that any costs I would pay by it being single payer would be the same or less than I pay now for me and my family? If you can't, that's all I need to know. I'm not in the business of placing higher costs on myself in order that someone else pays a lower costs.

There is a difference between what insurance companies offer and Obamacare. Not joining a particular insurance group didn't have a consequence. I bet you're one of those that equates auto insurance with health insurance. They're nothing alike in their purpose.
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They are. Auto insurance is a socialistic endeavor. Everyone pays and only some collect.You place a bet that you will get in an accident and the insurance company bets you will not.
The investment of the masses benefits a few.
It's called civilization.
You are not likely to understand.
 
Leonthecat said:
They are. Auto insurance is a socialistic endeavor. Everyone pays and only some collect.You place a bet that you will get in an accident and the insurance company bets you will not.
The investment of the masses benefits a few.
It's called civilization.
You are not likely to understand.
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They aren't. Based on the only type of auto insurance I'm required to have, it doesn't protect me. That means I pay but don't necessarily benefit. With health insurance, it's designed to protect me.

You've proven you don't understand.

It's not an investment just like Bernie's free college bullshit isn't an investment. If a kid's own parents don't think enough of him/her to invest, tells me it's not a good one.
 
see how fucking evil and stupid you are


the work force is an asset for any country you stupid fucking racist sociopath
 
evince said:
see how fucking evil and stupid you are

the work force is an asset for any country you stupid fucking racist sociopath
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I meet the responsibility I have to MY family. If some kid's own parents won't invest in their own kid, tells me it's not a good investment. If someone said something was a good investment yet they didn't invest in it themselves, are you stupid enough to still believe it's a good investment? You probably. I'm not.
 
CFM said:
They aren't. Based on the only type of auto insurance I'm required to have, it doesn't protect me. That means I pay but don't necessarily benefit. With health insurance, it's designed to protect me.

You've proven you don't understand.

It's not an investment just like Bernie's free college bullshit isn't an investment. If a kid's own parents don't think enough of him/her to invest, tells me it's not a good one.
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All you buy is mandatory car insurance?
Liar.
The insurance you buy for your cars protection is socialistic by nature. Just as you health insurance is. Everyone pays , those who need it, benefit.
The AHA protects everyone including you, should you fall on hard times.
Ever thought what you would do if you became disabled and could no longer afford to by health insurance?
You are a greed driven sociopathic racist.
And you seem to be proud of it.
Lol
 
CFM said:
I meet the responsibility I have to MY family. If some kid's own parents won't invest in their own kid, tells me it's not a good investment. If someone said something was a good investment yet they didn't invest in it themselves, are you stupid enough to still believe it's a good investment? You probably. I'm not.
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Not everyone can afford to invest. You sound like Marie Antoinette.
 
CFM said:
They aren't. Based on the only type of auto insurance I'm required to have, it doesn't protect me. That means I pay but don't necessarily benefit. With health insurance, it's designed to protect me.

You've proven you don't understand.

It's not an investment just like Bernie's free college bullshit isn't an investment. If a kid's own parents don't think enough of him/her to invest, tells me it's not a good one.
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If it was really a socialist endeavor, wouldn't those who don't own cars, also have to pay?? :palm:
 
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