The Big O Happy Dance

Darla said:
I just don't like Oprah. I can't help it. Dr. Phil doesn't help matters.
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I tried hating Oprah for about a year. It didn't stick. And truth be told when she supported Obama, I was like, "pfft.....whatever....." but I'm back on board the big O train.

You are right though.....she did give us Dr. Phil.....and for that she can't be forgiven. But otherwise I like her now.

Who would have thought back in the mid 80s after watching the Color Purple that Miss Sofia would grow up to be probably the most influential TV personality in history.
 
blackascoal said:
If there is one moment that can be pointed to when Obama turns the corner and surges ahead, it is the very moment that Oprah came out and supported him. From then on everybody else was in his rear view mirror.

Not a fan of Oprah, but truth is what it is.
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Exactly.
 
LadyT said:
I tried hating Oprah for about a year. It didn't stick. And truth be told when she supported Obama, I was like, "pfft.....whatever....." but I'm back on board the big O train.

You are right though.....she did give us Dr. Phil.....and for that she can't be forgiven. But otherwise I like her now.

Who would have thought back in the mid 80s after watching the Color Purple that Miss Sofia would grow up to be probably the most influential TV personality in history.
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The Color Purple is why I came to dislike Oprah and the Whoopi thing. Then Oprah went on to make "Brewster's Place" with so much man-hate that ABC forced her to include at least one positive male character. The good news is it lasted about 5 minutes on the air.

I've never seen the Color Purple, never will, and the book was written in language that made it absolute torture to try to read. I didn't like Danny Glover for acting in Purple either, but after he came to work for the campaign and went with my wife when she voted, I cut him some slack. He also became very active in great causes.

Did you know that Cicely Tyson, among others turned down roles in Purple, which led to their disfavor among the Spielberg-type "liberals?"
 
blackascoal said:
The Color Purple is why I came to dislike Oprah and the Whoopi thing. Then Oprah went on to make "Brewster's Place" with so much man-hate that ABC forced her to include at least one positive male character. The good news is it lasted about 5 minutes on the air.

I've never seen the Color Purple, never will, and the book was written in language that made it absolute torture to try to read. I didn't like Danny Glover for acting in Purple either, but after he came to work for the campaign and went with my wife when she voted, I cut him some slack. He also became very active in great causes.

Did you know that Cicely Tyson, among others turned down roles in Purple, which led to their disfavor among the Spielberg-type "liberals?"
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Clarify this for me did you refuse to see the Color Purple because you didn't like Brewsters Place?

Or did you refuse to watch the Color Purple because you think it was about hating men?
 
blackascoal said:
The Color Purple is why I came to dislike Oprah and the Whoopi thing. Then Oprah went on to make "Brewster's Place" with so much man-hate that ABC forced her to include at least one positive male character. The good news is it lasted about 5 minutes on the air.

I've never seen the Color Purple, never will, and the book was written in language that made it absolute torture to try to read. I didn't like Danny Glover for acting in Purple either, but after he came to work for the campaign and went with my wife when she voted, I cut him some slack. He also became very active in great causes.

Did you know that Cicely Tyson, among others turned down roles in Purple, which led to their disfavor among the Spielberg-type "liberals?"
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I haven't seen the movie, nor read the book, so I didn't even know there were issues revolving around it. Now you have really piqued my curiosity.
 
Darla said:
I haven't seen the movie, nor read the book, so I didn't even know there were issues revolving around it. Now you have really piqued my curiosity.
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It's not like I'm recommending it .. and you will need a slave to interpret the language in the book for you.

The movie caused quite a stir within the black community because of its subject nature and because Spielberg, who has never had a black character in his movies, directed it.
 
LadyT said:
Clarify this for me did you refuse to see the Color Purple because you didn't like Brewsters Place?

Or did you refuse to watch the Color Purple because you think it was about hating men?
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I refused to see the Color Purple because I thought it was about hating black people. If I want to write a book that would get notice and acclaim, just write a book about self-hate. I might get a Nobel Prize.

Purple engendered a whole host of self-hate "I hate black men" books by people like Toni "Clinton is the first black president" Morrison and others .. and inspired "Brewster's Place" which came after.

Question: How did Halle Berry win an Oscar for "Monsters Ball" .. a self-hating piece of pornographic trash that no white actress would have won any award for?
 
blackascoal said:
I refused to see the Color Purple because I thought it was about hating black people. If I want to write a book that would get notice and acclaim, just write a book about self-hate. I might get a Nobel Prize.

Purple engendered a whole host of self-hate "I hate black men" books by people like Toni "Clinton is the first black president" Morrison and others .. and inspired "Brewster's Place" which came after.

Question: How did Halle Berry win an Oscar for "Monsters Ball" .. a self-hating piece of pornographic trash that no white actress would have won any award for?
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That has to be the most sanctimonious BS I've ever heard regarding that movie. If anything its a testimony to Black women's strength at that time. And I'm pretty sure if you'd ask your relatives, as I did mine, you'd fine that there was a little more truth to the story than you seem to want to acknowledge. Because the central character didn't need a man to save her from her life and she stood up for herself, does not imply hatred toward men.
 
LadyT said:
That has to be the most sanctimonious BS I've ever heard regarding that movie. If anything its a testimony to Black women's strength at that time. And I'm pretty sure if you'd ask your relatives, as I did mine, you'd fine that there was a little more truth to the story than you seem to want to acknowledge. Because the central character didn't need a man to save her from her life and she stood up for herself, does not imply hatred toward men.
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All of the men in that movie are such dogs that all men who bring a woman to see it are in the dog house by association.
 
LadyT said:
That has to be the most sanctimonious BS I've ever heard regarding that movie. If anything its a testimony to Black women's strength at that time. And I'm pretty sure if you'd ask your relatives, as I did mine, you'd fine that there was a little more truth to the story than you seem to want to acknowledge. Because the central character didn't need a man to save her from her life and she stood up for herself, does not imply hatred toward men.
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I’m going to get this movie this week.
 
Damocles said:
All of the men in that movie are such dogs that all men who bring a woman to see it are in the dog house by association.
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What?! You're just as crazy as BAC is.

1) Not all of the men in the film are dogs
2) Women were routinely marginalized and had few places to go when they were abused
3) Black women at that time were especially marginalized on all sides. They suffered racism and sexism and to this day still bare a highly unfavorable characture.

I have an idea that would make all of you ultra sensitive little girls feel comfortable, we won't talk about women that were/are abused and discriminated against so that you don't feel as those you're experiencing any sexism whatsoever.

Will that make you feel better?
 
Darla said:
I’m going to get this movie this week.
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That has to be my all time favorite movie or at least in the top 3.

I will say this, BAC is kind of right about the book. I didn't even finish it and I LOVED the movie.
 
blackascoal said:
I refused to see the Color Purple because I thought it was about hating black people. If I want to write a book that would get notice and acclaim, just write a book about self-hate. I might get a Nobel Prize.

Purple engendered a whole host of self-hate "I hate black men" books by people like Toni "Clinton is the first black president" Morrison and others .. and inspired "Brewster's Place" which came after.

Question: How did Halle Berry win an Oscar for "Monsters Ball" .. a self-hating piece of pornographic trash that no white actress would have won any award for?
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Its a girls thing Bac. The color purple was about women and our histories of being nothing more than milking cows with beneifits. There was a time when women were treated much like this movie portrays and it wasnt limmited to the black experience. This movie really did bring women of all colors together.

Yeah the movie was pretty hard on the men folk. "A women aint safe in a world full of men" is what the movie was all about. Oprah was molested as a child and this film was a door opening on talking about it. Women protecting each other is the theme of the movie.

Halle Barrie did a great job in that film and that is why she won an oscar. Now like the film or not ,hate the charactor but give my girl Hallie her due respect. She rocked that role and made that part stand out. BTW a white woman later won the oscar for playing a drug addled, homosexual prostitute who murdered her johns.
 
LadyT said:
What?! You're just as crazy as BAC is.

1) Not all of the men in the film are dogs
2) Women were routinely marginalized and had few places to go when they were abused
3) Black women at that time were especially marginalized on all sides. They suffered racism and sexism and to this day still bare a highly unfavorable characture.

I have an idea that would make all of you ultra sensitive little girls feel comfortable, we won't talk about women that were/are abused and discriminated against so that you don't feel as those you're experiencing any sexism whatsoever.

Will that make you feel better?
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I think you are taking this too literally. If you don't think the film effects women that way then you are pretending, IMO.
 
LadyT said:
That has to be the most sanctimonious BS I've ever heard regarding that movie. If anything its a testimony to Black women's strength at that time. And I'm pretty sure if you'd ask your relatives, as I did mine, you'd fine that there was a little more truth to the story than you seem to want to acknowledge. Because the central character didn't need a man to save her from her life and she stood up for herself, does not imply hatred toward men.
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Oopps.

Men and women, specifically black men and women, have very different perspectives of the movie. I gave my honest perspective my good, and hope ain't mad at me, sister.

My problem with it isn't because there was truth to it, which I certainly acknowledge, or that it wasn't a testament to the strength of black women.

I also recognized that you might take some offense to my perspective of it, which is why I asked you about Halle Berry .. which goes to the core of my problems with Purple.

I ask again, how did Halle Berry win an Oscar for "Monsters Ball" .. a self-hating piece of pornographic trash that no white actress would have won any award for?
 
"Yeah the movie was pretty hard on the men folk. "A women aint safe in a world full of men" is what the movie was all about. "

Desh, I think you hit it, that is a woman thing. Women do have this conversation. When I went to see Redacted with my girlfriends, and male Iraq vets, because it was an IVAW fundraiser…my friend sue and I came out of there knocked out. We were sobbing, I can’t even describe it. And the guys were all caught up in the PTSD of the “poor” guy who witnessed this act of mind-bending brutality in a gang-rape and murder...and did nothing to stop. Sue and I had to leave together. We don’t hate men. But we had to leave.
 
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